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Welcome to Mehdi Unfiltered here in Washington, D.C. I'm Mehdi Hasan. On today's show, I'll be talking to the legendary, award-winning photojournalist Shahid Al-Alam about his fight for freedom of expression when it comes to covering the genocide in Gaza. But first, I'll speak to Democratic Congressman Dean Phillips, one of Israel's strongest supporters on Capitol Hill.
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He even voted to sanction the ICC over an arrest warrant request for Benjamin Netanyahu. Much to discuss and debate. So what are we waiting for? Let's go. Picture this. An official with one of Washington, D.C.' 's top lobbying groups sits down for dinner with a journalist, the official is asked about,
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the time their organization was caught on tape bragging about cutting a deal with the White House and whether it's impacted their group's influence on Capitol Hill. The lobbyist smiles, points to a napkin and says, proudly, in 24 hours we could have the signatures of 70 senators on this napkin. Now,

Mehdi Presses Pro-Israel Democrat on Support for ICC Sanctions & Gaza Destruction: ‘You Voted for a Mafioso Bill’

Plus, it’s time to talk about AIPAC, and an interview with legendary photojournalist Shahidul Alam.

Over 70% of Americans believe lobbyists have too much influence – so why do Democrats and the media remain silent when it comes to the most powerful pro-Israel lobby in America, AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee? 

In this episode of ‘Mehdi Unfiltered’, Mehdi not only calls out AIPAC for helping the GOP meddle with Democratic primaries, but also calls out his main interview guest, Democrat Congressman Dean Phillips, who recently voted to sanction the ICC for requesting an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 

Plus, Mehdi speaks with world-famous Bangladeshi photojournalist Shahidul Alam on his protest against the war in Gaza and what it has cost him. Watch the full show above.

Pressing Rep. Dean Phillips on his vote against the ICC…

Minnesota Congressman Dean Phillips says he stands for the rule of law. So why did he choose to vote for a bill that would sanction International Criminal Court officials – as well as their families – after the court requested an arrest warrant for Netanyahu’s role in the war on Gaza?

Phillips told Mehdi that he objected to the ICC’s decision because of the fact that Israel is not party to the ICC – a claim that Mehdi rebutted by pointing to last year, when Democrats praised the ICC arrest warrant against Putin for his war crimes in Ukraine, even though Russia is not party to the ICC either. 

“Even if we were to agree with you that they're outside the purview, and they [the ICC] would say they're not, it didn't just go after ICC officials, but also quote ‘immediate family members’ of ICC officials. That is mob-like behavior – is it not? To go after family?” Mehdi asked Phillips.

“We have votes in Congress that we know will not end up going anywhere. We have votes that we know will probably be signed into the law. They have very different consequences,” Phillips responded. 

“With respect, Congressman. It doesn't matter what your intent is. It matters what you voted for. You voted for a very mafioso bill,” Mehdi told Phillips. 

They also debated U.S. complicity in war crimes, whether Democrats value Palestinian life, and Phillips’s own failed presidential bid earlier this year. 

Let’s talk about AIPAC…

As AIPAC spends millions of dollars trying to unseat pro-Palestine progressive Jamaal Bowman, Mehdi begs the question: Why does AIPAC, a pro-Israel group that openly brags about their influence over elected officials, rarely get criticized? 

“Anti-Semitic tropes about ‘rich Jews’, whether they’re Soros or the Rothschilds or the Jewish community in general, should absolutely be condemned. But that’s not what we’re talking about when we’re talking about AIPAC. We’re talking about a self-described powerful lobbying group,” Mehdi says, adding that the lobbying group, “should be rejected in the same way that we reject, say, the NRA.”

Watch his powerful and timely monologue above. 

Artists speaking up on Gaza…

This past March, Bangladeshi photojournalist Shahidul Alam was supposed to curate the first ever edition of the famous Biennale photography exhibition in Germany with three non-European curators. However, the exhibition ended-up being canceled in November due to Alam’s criticism of Israel’s war on Gaza. 

“We worked really hard to put together a show that would have been very different. The whole point in inviting initially me and me inviting the others was to bring about a change to the way they'd always done it,” Alam said of the exhibit. “But of course… what they needed was someone who would be non-European, but still follow the European scheme of things.”

Alam of course has not backed down from his criticism of Israel’s war on Gaza.

Watch the full show above and, for paid subscribers, be sure to let us know in the comments below what you think of the show and who we should have on next!

Discussion about this video

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Mehrdad's avatar

This is a perfect example for:

How an interview needs to be conducted

and

How politicians easily speak from both sides of the mouth and it needs a interviewer with integrity to hold them accountable for that dishonesty.

1776 - Independence from England tyranny

2024 - *Independence* *from* *Zionist/AIPAC* *tyranny*

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Danny's avatar

Yea...with all the stuttering he answered the questions. No palestenian lives don't matter to him as much as the others. Disgusting. All human life is important and matters.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

Criticism of Israel is long overdue. Since Jews were extremianted during WWII, Israel has benefited from an assumption of innocence - and among some Israelis, the conviction that 'Arabs' are inferior.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

I didn't mean to imply that the Jewish race was exterminated! Careless writing!

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Neghet khan's avatar

Superb direct questions to the Congressman - well done again Mehdi! Now, could you get a member of AIPAC on your show - that would be a very interesting exchange…

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Robert Heling's avatar

I love writing comments here on zeteo and interacting with other people, but I'm so enraged at the moment and if would type out what I think about this absolute psychopathic, subhuman racist POS I will get booted from this platform.

So I'll leave at that and keep my thoughts to myself this time.

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ROSALIND BELANGER's avatar

Hi Robert, I'm sure most of us have the same thoughts as you. I just hope Israel does not get away with paying up for it sins, they have escaped justice way too long. Their ancestors were the ones who suffered, not them so they should quit using the holocaust as a shield for them to get away with everything. They have proved to be god awful people for the most part. The Israeli women in particular shriek like fishwives and banshees when they are giving their opinion of Palestinians, the latter being very kind and generous people from all that we hear. Can't wait for them to be hauled up in front of fair-minded judges who will give them what they deserve. But as long as the U.S. cover for them I fear that day may never come.

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Robert Heling's avatar

I agree, it will be very interesting to see how that whole ICC/ICJ will play out. But yes, abolishing the Apartheid state and everything that comes up with it won't be enough. For there to be peace, justice is needed. Internationally but also nationally!

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Istvan Kash's avatar

This may be the undoing of the US. Trump started the process, and Joe seems intent to take it over the line.

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Rina Akhter's avatar

I’m pretty certain everyone here more or less feels your sentiment.

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Davena Turvey's avatar

No. No, you shared your thoughts. I was heartened.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“Over 70% of Americans believe lobbyists have too much influence – so why do Democrats and the media remain silent when it comes to the most powerful pro-Israel lobby in America, AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee?”

The operative word is “Americans,” not American politicians on either side of the aisle. I haven’t heard any politicians calling for legislation to curb lobbyist groups at all. We sometimes hear general rhetoric, but never an entire denigration of a particular PAC, or industry group. Either way, we’ve never seen enough bi-partisan support to enact change.

That said, I support “J” Street, the alternative Jewish Israeli PAC which calls for better treatment of the Palestinians, and for a two state solution; sooner than later.

And I agree, AIPAC isn’t doing Israel any favors by supporting Netanyahu, and his right-wing fanatical government with impunity. The cracks in the foundation in Israel itself, are becoming readily apparent.

I hope this war ends soon, and America and the world pays more attention to a future Palestinian government, so we don’t have a leadership vacuum emerge, which puts an even more demonic organization in power, than even Hamas has shown itself to be.

And I also hope that Israel has elections very soon, and Netanyahu and his fanatical cabinet are handedly defeated.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Jill Stein is incredibly vocal about lobbying groups. Voting for her could mean actual change.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Except she can’t win, so it’s a wasted vote that helps Trump. Stein isn’t even polling at 5% nationally, and isn’t in a position to win even 1 electoral vote.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Americans complain about no change, but when change presents itself says, “a vote for them is a vote for ( insert politician here). Biden is not going to win in my opinion, but if Stein gets enough support she will get government funding for next election which could make all the difference for her party, and bring forth the change Americans claim they want to see. Millions of us have protested around the world for Palestine, but I’ve never seen Americans stand up to protest Democratic nominees. To say, Biden is not an acceptable candidate, and we want another nominee. What Americans seem to do is moan about “no other choice but a Genocidal child killer, oh well gotta vote for him or worse guy gets in office.” And the cycle continues, and the world pays the price.

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Istvan Kash's avatar

You’re absolutely right and anyone who responds with a novella is blowing smoke up their own hind area.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Sarah, please contact me again when you join the real world. Biden didn’t kill anyone. He was late to the game, but at least he’s trying to get a ceasefire accomplished. Is he a great candidate? No, I agree with you, but too much is at stake, including our democracy.

You may want your pound of flesh, but think about the Palestinians. Will they be better off if Trump wins? Remember, it’s Trump that gave Bibi Carte Blanche to impose some of the most draconian measures against the Palestinians. And Bibi wants Trump to win because Trump will let Bibi nuke Gaza if need be.

And you think things will be fine under Trump? Have you read about the Heritage Foundations Project 2025? They will turn this country into an authoritarian kleptocratic theocracy.

And don’t you care about the judiciary? If Trump wins he will put more Federalist Society judges on the SC and federal benches. They will control the courts for the next 40 years because Alito and Thomas will retire and then a much younger version of them will have lifetime appointments.

So blame Biden for Hamas attacking, and Israel overreacting and committing heinous crimes. Only complete fools could blame a guy who doing what every president would: support an ally when they are attacked by a terror organization.

So do what you have to do Sarah, because it is you that will have to live with the consequences. And if you think things are bad now in Gaza or here, they can always get exponentially worse.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Saying, “think about the Palestinians” is a laugh. You think anyone with family in Palestine is voting Biden. He IS the one actively supporting the Genocide. And yes Biden is to blame, one phone call from him could have ended one of the worst slaughters of innocents in recent history. He actively supplies weaponry to Israel, but says he wants a ceasefire? I am no idiot sir, I follow politics very closely. The so called deal Biden put on the table is the same deal Hamas has been pushing for months. It is Israel that doesn’t agree to it because they are not finished ethnic cleansing. Biden just gave 300 million to Congo for mining which is being done by literal slave children. You warn of Trump, but my conscience would never allow me to vote for a man funding the war and slaughter of innocent civilians around the world for monetary gain. Call me naive, call me whatever names you want. Biden is doing horrendous things, but when everyone follows your thought process, nothing changes. And yes I do know all of the things Trump proposes, he’s an evil man, but so is Biden.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

You truly are a moron. I don’t care if you or they vote for Biden or not, the point is the same; Trump will allow Bibi to achieve his ultimate goal. Annexing the West Bank and forcing more than a million Palestinians into refugee camps.

And Israel is not the 51st state of America or a colony. They do t take marching orders from the US.

What happened in Gaza is decades in the making for which all parties are to blame. Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas leader recently said that the more civilian Palestinian deaths, the better it is for Hamas.

So if you believe making sure Biden loses is an accomplishment; congratulations! I hope you get your Pyrrhic victory; then you’ll get the government you want; good and hard, and the dystopian future you deserve.

There’s a reason Ismail Haniyeh, Netanyahu and Putin call people like you useful idiots; you’re too stupid to realize you are working against your own interests and playing right into their hands.

Don’t bother responding because I really don’t give a damn how you vote. In fact, I hope Trump wins. Your victory lap will be short lived.

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Hamza's avatar

the media can't talk and attack the bad influence of the lobby in american politic because they are part of it. They are funded by the lobby and they speak for whom pay more.

When you have only 2 parties , it means there is no democracy in USA and by some way or another, you will choose the same. And Aipac likes it because it make it easier choice and high chance to get its own people on power 1/2 instead of 1/7

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ROSALIND BELANGER's avatar

To get this man to agree with Mehdi is like flogging a dead horse, why bother. We all know these people are full of it. They pretend to put on a sympathetic face but the truth always comes out, they do not give a crap for the suffering of Palestinians. Israelis are not special and why people like Dean Phillips continually apologize for these psychopaths is beyond me.

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Davena Turvey's avatar

I don’t think Mehdi wanted him to agree, Rosalind. He wanted us to agree, to listen and learn. Poor Philips is so compromised, but it is useful to listen to the way he operates. He appeared genuinely surprised that anyone could possibly think that killing hundreds of unarmed Israeli citizens in order to release four Palestinians hostages was reasonable. The Israeli hostages were alive, and looked surprisingly fit. Strange. He also said, possibly a slip of the tongue, that Israel is a country. He should know better than that, surely…

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B J Sutherland's avatar

This politician really believes his positions on Israel and a Trump pardon sound reasonable. What a deluded fool and outright contributor to the license that so many politicans are giving the Israeli government to murder Palestinians. He is also totally wrong that 'the majority' of Americans support Trump and believe that justice system is persecuting him.

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Anjali's avatar

Excellent interview, but his position is appalling. Honestly depraved.

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Asghar Ayazi's avatar

Mr Hasan, may you live a thousand more years to expose these hypocrites more and more. You are the master of the media and as a journalist, you have opened many eyes to the truth. Keep up the great work, wishing you the best!

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Carina Cooper's avatar

According to Phillip and many others in our government we have to side with our “ally”, regardless of the morality of their actions.

More to the point, why are they even our ally?

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Hertha L. Poje's avatar

Good question!

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Naz Mirza's avatar

Brilliant interview Mehdi holding Dean Philips to account. The congressman should be ashamed of himself! If he lies and uses that type of logic how can people ever trust him?

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ROSALIND BELANGER's avatar

A hundred years ago when I was in school, I remember we were asked to bring in our pocket money to contribute to Israel to buy trees! Seems everything since then has been handed to them on a silver platter. Then we heard they lived in a desert which they made bloom - total rubbish.

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Davena Turvey's avatar

A hundred years ago, before WW2, when I was child, we used to have Jaffa Oranges. Imagine!

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ROSALIND BELANGER's avatar

I don't have to imagine it Davena, I remember those oranges and while at the pictures they used to advertise Jaffa oranges. Now the Israelis are into destroying fruit and olive groves, not theirs of course! Those were simpler times alright.

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Davena Turvey's avatar

We were provided with orange juice, every child was, and cod liver oil. We never saw bananas, of course, until the war was behind us. But I remember the name - I thought it just meant Big. And now we are (willingly) required to boycott them. Looking back on my almost-hundred years of almost-constant war, I doubt if we have anything to teach our young people.

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Robert Leyland's avatar

Mehdi: Well done. You exposed Dean Phillips as a hypocrite and a demagogue; a member of the Dem Party undermine the Party; a Zionist who hates the Other, Palestinians. We needed to explore whether or not he qualifies as a fascist Dem, using Jason Stanley’s

, author of “How Fascism Works, ” definition.

I noticed Phillips supports a two-state“solution. It would legalize the theft of almost all of Palestine by Israel. Please review and promote The Case for Palestine, by Dan Kovalik, wherein the author concludes by urging a one-state solution; Israel/Palestine—with equal rights for all. Such a solution would require Israel to restore what it has destroyed. Please interview Kovalik, ASAP.

I’m hoping that you will explore whether Biden should be asked to resign; allowing VP Harris to finish his term and run for president. In my view, Biden has soiled his legacy with his unconditional support for Netanyahu and his cabal. Of course, if the choice is between Biden and the wannabe dictator, DJT, I’ll vote for Biden reluctantly.

People should be writing to Biden asking him politely and concisely, to retire or resign. If he does not comply, I would urge a bipartisan effort to impeach the president.

Harris would likely reenergize the base, assuming she is not a Zionist even though her husband is.

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shamim kamal's avatar

اللہ کرے زور زباں اور زیادہ

Mehdi Hasan my trust and prayers are for you

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Tuba Tilki's avatar

He couldn’t answer if it was ok for Palestinians to use the same logic to save Palestinian detainees from Israel . That is all I heard in the interview..

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Danny Surujbali's avatar

The one question that got me lol’ing : What made you embarrass yourself by running for President lmao

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R.C.'s avatar

Sir, you make me glad to donate.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

OMG! MSNBC just referred to Russia and North Korea as 'pariahs'!! Is the American public still so ignorant that it would buy this?

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Deena Stryker's avatar

For those who aren't sure what I'm referring to, the US, China and Russia are the 'Big Three' on the world stage. Opinions as to 'four' and 'five' may vary between India, Brazil and whoever is No.5.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

"....and whoever."

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Davena Turvey's avatar

😹

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Senor Fix's avatar

Thanks Zeteo for another fantastic segment, especially the interview with Dean Phillips; a master class on holding the... 'powerful' to account. Bravo! Your work continues to shame the vast majority of interviewers of the MSM and further clarify that they are meerly entertainers and shills.

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mal's avatar

Dean Phillips, First World, wriggles. Shahidul Alam, Third World a straight shooter . Congratulation Mehdi for bypassing the BS and showing us for what they are. One, tragic and the other inspiring. I suppose that represent the cross-section of the type of leaders and influencers we have today. They get Zeteo'd and we understand them better.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

I'm guessing that the youthful energy is with the Socialists - who are still not recognized as a 'legitimate' party.

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Osman Siddiqi's avatar

Dean Philips is a bag of deceit and contradictions. What a painful braincell destroying line of argumentation from him.

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Potjie57's avatar

This is a crazy discussion on natayahu, according to the congressman he is evil and can be critize any which way but when action is propagated against natanyahu, he has had reservations, talk is allowed but not action and hence ICC action is to be censored.

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Mahabub Ahmed's avatar

Bro Mehdi Hasan ---people will be very reluctant /afraid to come to your show... Bc of your blunt straight forward questions.....

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Azalea's avatar

I am so sick of foreign politicians pretending to represent us, the American people. Nobody with double nationality should be a public official. Israel has corrupted our whole government in prejudice of the American People. Israel is at war with the American People, and we do not have any patriots, only traitors to our constitution.

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Nadine S's avatar

He is willing to challenge Joe Biden in a primary, threaten members (and members families) of the ICC but not oppose continuing to supply weapons for this genocide. This shows he is only interested in power. Not governing. Not in recognizing international law.

Thank you for challenging his talking points and showing us what he really stands for.

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jon gazzard's avatar

wow, this what i call journalism, against phillips...this is some great questions and holding feet to the fire[kudos to phillips as well, perhaps for walking into a tough talking box] ...some of the questions here , are ones that i would ask as followups to his casual normal talking points used by phillips and which are almost never used in the normal american "journalism" ..well played Mehdi, well played :)

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Erin's avatar

I mean... I've done Dialectic Behavioral Therapy (DBT) but come on... so many things that dude said cannot both be true at the same time! It's like he has 2 different personalities.. he thinks/feels this way but voted a different way just cuz? Or like its ok for us to kill a huge bunch of Palestinian casualties to get hostages back; but also 1 murder is too much? 😳

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Hertha L. Poje's avatar

This guy is full of it. He wants it both ways. He has no leg to stand on.

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Citizen of the World's avatar

Mehdi, The best kept secret in the Navy is the Comfort and the Mercy. I wish you could ask any American politician that has any sway with the president that even if they support everything Israel has done up until now without any criticism and even sign bombs, to ask him why has this option been so ignored for so long? How many lives could this have saved? Would American press be allowed access, including independent journalists? What possible moral or political justification could there be against it? Do they need to ask their lobbyists first? Did they already say no? Does anyone believe that the administration didn't know it had this option?

Mehdi, will you please do a segment on this issue? How can anyone claim they have empathy when since this article has been written in one of the President's favorite newspapers, the healthcare system has been destroyed and for many months this means a severe lack of basic supplies and medicine, anaesthesia and anaesthesia machines refused entry and amputations and cesarean births without anaesthesia or antibiotics or even clean gauze?

Injured kids "are dying" in Gaza. Send in the hospital ships.

From the Washington Post November 10, 2023 at 7:15 ET

Michael Rose is an assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

On Oct. 8, President Biden ordered a fleet of military ships and an aircraft carrier closer to the war between Israel and Hamas. Days later, he ordered a second carrier group to steam into the eastern Mediterranean. As a doctor, I don’t pretend to know the geopolitical calculus governing these decisions. But I do know what it feels like to witness the death of a child — and to be haunted by the possibility that it was preventable. I know that, with thousands of children dying in the current Middle East conflict, there are two other ships we ought to send to the region.

The USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy are floating 1,000-bed hospitals equipped with well-trained staff, operating rooms and even intensive care units. They provide mobile medical and surgical services to support disaster relief and humanitarian operations and have been deployed numerous times across the globe. Yet, as one of the worst humanitarian crises of our lifetime unfolds, the Mercy is en route to a planned mission in the Pacific, and the Comfort is moored in Mobile, Ala., undergoing upgrades. Planned partnerships and maintenance are important, but in times of crisis, triage is required. We should send the ships instead to Gaza, where too many children have already perished.

There would be challenges to readying the mobile medical centers and sailing them to the Mediterranean in a timely manner, but there are few groups more capable of implementing timely logistics. In 2010, the USNS Comfort arrived in Haiti just a week after a devastating earthquake injured thousands and damaged the country’s largest hospital beyond repair. The most efficient strategy would probably involve diverting the fully staffed and equipped Mercy from its routine mission while commencing a speedy readying of the Comfort.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/10/gaza-kids-navy-hospital-ships/

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Kaiser Kabir's avatar

Mehedi, please do not take Bangladesh off your radar. I know Gaza and Ukraine rightfully grab most of the headlines, but when time comes, it is important to look at the consequences of authoritarianism in a country of 160 million largely moderate Muslims.

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Suzan Quawasmi-Harshbarger's avatar

I think it is clear why Democrat Congressman Dean Phillips was not elected, and thank God he was not, if anyone thinks he would have done anything difficult from what Biden has done with Israel, he wouldn't have, I don't understand he also claims he is a Democrat 🤔🤔🤔 this man is confused, he is a Republican😞😞😞

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Jacqueline Carroll's avatar

Brilliant interview again Mehdi! I love you holding them to account, it shouldn’t be unusual but in today’s world it is unfortunately. Keep it up as we so need it. Looking forward to next week.

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Tertia Giffen's avatar

Dean Phillips was dodging questions like Neo from The Matrix. Never answered whether it would be okay for Palestine to kill two hundred Israelis to get four “prisoners” (read: hostages) back, and also didn’t say why he voted to sanction Karim Khan’s two adult sons. Typical sleazy political doublespeak. I can’t stand him and I’m glad you asked him why he embarrassed himself by running for president, haha. Good on you, Medhi!! <3

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William Dennett's avatar

Phillips is just like 95% of politicians. You'll hear a few things come out of their mouths that are reasonable and make sense, but watch out for what they actually support with their votes. The hypocrisy a majority of them vomit out every day is vile and disgusting. Congress is absolutely useless.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

It's time for a modern version of Camelot!

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Deena Stryker's avatar

The country that made a splash for its youthfulness is now in contention beteen two eighty-somethings!

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Deena Stryker's avatar

That conviction has not served Israel, let me be clear!

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Jan's avatar

What a masterclass from Mehdi. Phillips got exposed for an unprincipled PoS he is.

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Sukaina's avatar

God Bless you Mehdi Hasan. Fantastic interview. Thank you for asking all the right questions.

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Omar Nassery's avatar

What an incisive set of interviews. Characteristically, Mehdi cut through Dean Phillip's entire bs like a laser beam. Phillip's stance on Palestine/Israel is as farcical and humiliating as his presidential run. I do wish, however, Mehdi had asked him what Phillips so admires about Israel. Its apartheid and racism? Its colonialism? Its shocking and brazen violations of human rights? Who with a conscience can defend, leave alone admire, Israel?

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B.D. Button's avatar

I think a more in depth interview with Dean Phillips would be helpful, as I do believe he is biased (as we all are) but at least he was being honest.

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Rich Carlson's avatar

Good healthy, robust conversation and back and forth. Good guest that hung in there. Thanks!

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Edward's avatar

Dean Philips was exposed as a cuck to Israel.

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Sarel Van Der Walt's avatar

The last time Israel was attacked from any of its neighbours was in 2006 by Hezbollah, which is not the government of Lebanon, though its an important faction in Lebanon politics. Except for the various Palestinian resistance organisations which arose from the displaced Palestinian refugees in its neighbours, Israel has no real “enemy” which threatens it. The equivalent is like the US needs a massive military because they risk being invaded by Mexico or Canada.

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RudyT's avatar

omg, eye opening.

interesting how this congressman tries to disassociate his voting record from their consequences.

he's able to articulate antisemitism and the holocaust but fails to see that Israel is perpetrating far worse crimes in Gaza and the West Bank. Heartbreaking.

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Bisirat Haile's avatar

He contradicts his own position! What a mess!

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Istvan Kash's avatar

Took me a while to catch up with Zeteo offerings. Whew! One could write 500 words on the entirety of what transpired here. The work speaks for itself. Bravo.

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Hamza's avatar

it is clear that the Senator doesn't study his case. and by the way, it is the case for the majority of the senators. He has to repeat every time he puts in the corner, " I love Israel" and " i stand with Israel," like a magic word to get out of this embarrassment.

Politicians now vow loyalty to Israel, then to their country. and it is clear that MONEY rules in USA and there is no ethics, no principles, no credibility.

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ALLAH ROTATES HIS RULE AS HE PLEASES

“All we are sure of is that right wins out over wrong. We are sure of that no matter what you call it right is going to win out over wrong. A lot claimed to be right and they are going to be proven to be wrong. You know if the Jews can come up with a scripture that cuts a part of the world out and say, “That is ours, it belongs to us.” After a while one of these days somebody else is going to do the same thing. And they might choose to cut out some of our United States saying, “G-d showed us in a vision and all this belongs to us.”

Al Islam is the answer for the whole world. In the Qur'an Allah swt says study those people who lived before you. Study how they lived and were put away. They don’t exist but they are signs that they had great society, great government, great power and they are gone. G-d tries a people, let them have power to see how would they perform. 2. Quran 7.129; If they perform badly He will eventually let them be erased from the earth and then He tries another people.

He gives dominion to whom He pleases and He rotates the rule. So that is fair for all of us. That is saying to all of us you have not been given any covenant from Me that you are going to have this land always or that you are going to have this power always. It depends on your own behavior. If you behave well you will prolong your days. Isn’t that the Bible too? If you do not behave well you’re going to lose it.

We should never think the United States is eternal. It depends on how the people of the United States behave. We can lose the United States. And I believe Israel is threatening us right now. Threatening our security and future, tying our president and our government as to what they are doing. And the majority of the nations of the world are condemning what they are doing. And you see the sympathy of the press is against what they are doing. And they are really taking chances stepping out against the Jew, because the Jew has such a strong hold in America, not in Europe.

They have such strong hold here that if you speak out against them they can destroy you. If Allah swt doesn’t save you you will be destroyed overnight. They will get rid of you quick. And they will tell you that. Look how bold they are. They will even tell you, “You won’t be speaking anymore.” I spoke once a Jewish woman met me as I was leaving the rostrum and she said, “You better be careful.” I said thank you and kept walking.

You can’t speak the truth if you obey them and their threats. You won’t speak the truth. You won’t stand up for what is right. You will only stand up for what the Jews are doing, only for what Israel is doing. And I do believe if they took a vote right now in Israel the majority of the citizens of Israel will be against the regime that they have, against that government. They would not even allow a vote like that, not right now. I do not believe they would allow it.

I was in Israel and we met many Israelis who were in support of the Palestinians having their own state. They were demonstrating when we were over there in support of the Palestinians having their own state. So it is the government imposing its will not only in our world but also on their own people in Israel. I am not worried about it at all. I see it all as a sign that we are coming to the end of their time. The end of the crazy people’s time.”

—Imam Warithuddeen Mohammed 10/13/2002

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y muldrow's avatar

“Strange people. They are very strange people among the Israelis; strange.”

Imam W Deen Mohammed

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Rina Akhter's avatar

Omg the best interview!! The congressman literally started uttering loved every minute of it, only if every news anchor would the same in holding these politicians accountable. Disgusting how he wouldn’t answer about Palestinian doing same for their hostages, it shows he knows in his gut that he doesn’t believe Palestinian lives are as worthy to him. Despicable! Thank you Mehdi for doing what you do. Keep em coming!!! Please bring on other so called “progressive liberal” that claim they’re so better than the Republicans, BS democrats on your show so that everyone sees their true selves.

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SUMIT RAHMAN's avatar

Great episode! I thought the Congressman tried to engage as much as he could even though at bottom he couldn't be consistent; great interviewing kept this going for a decent amount of time.

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Sid's avatar

Awesome interview!

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Deena Stryker's avatar

I continue to have the sneaking suspicion that someone is usurping my space here. I'm going to cancel.

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Aspy Bhathena's avatar

Mehdi your excellence in conducting these interviews is exemplary. You give them rope to hang themselves, which they do and then try and undo what they have said. For a retiring Democrat to say here that Biden will lose the next election in November is to put it mildly "shocking" even if it was true!! For America's sake and for the sake of the rest of the world hope that is not what they vote for!!

For Germany to cancel the Biennale photography exhibition, is not surprising!! They Germans are still suffering from a guilt conscience about what they did to the Jews and that reflects in all their post war actions on Isreal.

Mehdi like keeping Bangladesh on the map please also hold the Pakistani Generals and the imposed government to account. Keep it coming. Thanks.

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Laila Kreaa's avatar

Great show 💯 I am so so grateful for your presence in the media now! And unfiltered 🙏🏼🙏🏼

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ROSALIND BELANGER's avatar

Davena, I agree with what you said, as for why Israel does not call itself a country is because they have no borders. They haven't finished stealing Palestinian land, when they have taken it all, then they will declare their borders, and Israel will finally be a country. They truly are a loathsome lot.

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Priya's avatar

Hypocrite is a word that comes to mind

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Terence Apted's avatar

This was one the best shows he has put on to date. Love this guy

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Suzan Quawasmi-Harshbarger's avatar

Lovely Mehdi, marvelous as usual ❤️❤️❤️.

Thank you for your voice 💗💗💗

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Norma Lopez's avatar

Bbbb

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Muhammad Shahzad's avatar

That's a 1sided approach that is so telling about the congressman and the US government in general. Mehdi as always come prepared. The congressman should have been told there were Palestinian Americans in Gaza too.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

P.S. Few Americans know that the US is the exception in that the Socialist Party has never been recognized on a par with the Democrats and Republicans.

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Deena Stryker's avatar

I should have written that the youth energy is NOW with the socialists, the Dems haven been incapable of moving leftward.

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the time their organization was caught on tape bragging about cutting a deal with the White House and whether it's impacted their group's influence on Capitol Hill. The lobbyist smiles, points to a napkin and says, proudly, in 24 hours we could have the signatures of 70 senators on this napkin. Now,