First, he has neuropathy in both legs (that’s not from a unilateral break). Second, the stuttering thing isn’t what the issue is-he is declining. For evidence of that, one need only compare his inauguration speech or his debates with sarah palin or anything before 2021. It’s obvious and the people making excuses look ridiculous. Everyone can see it. He has had two interviews since (George) and the radio one. Blew it on both. Don’t dems want someone who can win? He can’t. It’s over. Move on
Anybody who has had a client/patient, a friend, a relative show the same confusion, increase in previously-controlled speech defects, and superlative-heavy, belligerent responses to challenges, knows what comes next in the progression of such a decline.
"Don’t dems want someone who can win? He can’t. It’s over. Move on."
But we can't be sure, right? Biden may lose, he may win, the polls are still close. And if he's replaced with someone else, we'd be in the same situation, the polls would still be close. I think we just have to accept that there's no way to know for sure.
He isn’t going to win. He has lost the youth vote, months ago, and now he has lost the faith of some big donors and even colleagues. He has such an issue that he has managed to detract from Trump’s constant lies and the focus of everyone everywhere is on his decline, his flubs, his weakness, his age. This time last cycle everyone was breathing a sigh of relief that our candidate was boring and normal as opposed to Trump. Not the case anymore. He’s lost. Time to face facts.
What I like about fivethirtyeight is that is doesn't just give one poll, it shows a roundup of all the polls. They're showing five polls post-debate, in Trump's best he's ahead 4 (42-38) in the others he's ahead 3. ahead 1, and tied. What I'm saying is it's close, that's what the polls are saying.
I agree but it should never have been so close, you know? I don't know what could save him but something big needs to happen so he can look better. Otherwise, this discussion will never go away.
He is very likely to lose. The fact that the polls are looking the way they do at the moment is alarming enough. Best polls basically say it is a tie which is historically awful and weak. Against this candidate? And lets be real, this discussion about his decline in the media, the voters and his party will not only not go away but it will get worse, every time he comes out and says "my VP Trump" or that he beat medicare.
And Bidens denial and behavior is becoming very Trumpian. He lost the youth vote, is likely to lose almost every swing state and now even New York is turning into a purple state. I mean...
If it's a tie, then why is Biden more likely to lose than Trump? When polls are tied, that means it's a tossup, and we can't predict the outcome, it's like trying to predict a coin flip.
Sarah, we’ll said. I’m not sure DemParty is as eager to win S they are to raise $ and not alienate big donor. So it’s up to each on of us to ask Biden to resign and let VP Harris knows we need her now more than ever. We need to ask to do the same.
I suspect there’s a Cult of Biden as there is a Cult of Trump. It may be due to the Trump Contagion that Dr Bandy X Lee, MD refers to.
I'm a long time Michael Moore fan so I appreciate this interview and his viewpoint. With Biden - it's not just winning the election, but whether he has the stamina and cognitive ability for another 4 years. Unfortunately people who work in politics and diplomacy often care more about their own careers than what's best for the people they claim to represent.
There are procedures in place should he need to step down and have Harris assume the Presidency. I'd be fine if he did that now, but if he doesn't that doesn't mean he must serve the next four years.
Opinionated celebrities are an absolute blight on the Democratic Party. And of course they help to reinforce a stereotype of the Democrats as being under the influence of "Hollywood elites". And then, what's even worse is when the Republicans point to this to support a claim to be the party of REAL working-class Americans, even though they're the party of billionaire oligarchs.
Just why and how is Michael Moore sufficiently competent and knowledgeable to comment on Joe Biden's "behaviour"? Why should anyone care, and how is this even journalism, Mehdi? I am really beginning to resent the extent to which "journalism" has degenerated into opinion. Give us some objective evidence and facts, please.
Thank you, MEHDI. The analogy, between Dems and MAGA, was very appropriate and concerning, in fact disturbing.
We’re being gaslighted. We saw what we saw and Biden is in decline now and will be more so every day. I wonder: Why would Dems want to take such a risk while the majority Dems don’t?
If we’re prosecuted fairly or unfairly and face the death penalty, would we given a choice hire Biden or his VP knowing what we know?
The Trump & the GOP pose an existential threat, to our democracy as well as ecologically. There is cognizant dissonance in our own party when it chooses the least rather than the most qualified. This may be part of the “death spiral” and the “Trump contagion” that Dr Bandy X Lee, MD refers to. I suggest you interview her about this phenomenon although she seems to focus more on Trump and less on Biden, if any.
I sense the immediate priority is or may be, in my view, getting Biden to resign & stopping the Palestinian genocide and holding those responsible accountable are or should be priorities.
You likely notice that far too many Dems who purport to be progressive are silent, hence complicit, as to the plight of Palestinians. BTW, the squad should have not have cowed and embraced Biden. Wouldn’t you agree. Israel and AIPAC are yet more threats to our democracy.
We might consider dealing with apparent trolls in this platform; may I refer it as a sacred space?
Hoper you invite Michael Moore.again. He seemed ostracized. Why? Great interview. We need him in the fray.
Exactly! Agree with everything you wrote here. I was thinking about something similar the other day. Biden is basically turning into Trump 2.0... Far right immigration policy, built the border wall, put his failson into the white house, denies reality and now he even got an awful orange spray tan!
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"inflammatory" doesn't mean "things that make me mad because I disagree with them."
"offensive" doesn't mean "things that offend me because I disagree with them."
And who's posting comments that are irrelevant? The discussion here is about Biden and whether he should stay in. Find me a comment here that doesn't speak to that.
I am a paid subscriber here and refuse to listen to Moore blather. I WAS a paid subscriber to Michael Moore's Substack, but I refuse to pay anyone to flat out say that Biden's relatives are committing "elder abuse." Nor do I believe that anyone is "forcing" Biden to stay in the race. I think everyone needs to take a chill pill and let the man decide for himself - unless or until he has been deemed non compos mentis. If that determination has been made and the public is being kept in the dark, then the people hiding that should be prosecuted for fraud. If it hasn't been made, then maybe we all just need to STFU.
Sadly, I believe too many people have STFU in Biden’s inner circle and that is precisely why we are in this predicament in the first place. Americans have been let down by the DNC and Biden’s inner circle about the state of his decline and the arrogant view that Joe is the Only candidate available who can beat Trump.Which is nonsense and a back handed insult to other very qualified alternative in the democratic party. I find it courageous for Moore and Clooney to speak up especially Clooney’s admission that he has witnessed Biden’s slip ups in the past 3 weeks. Joe needs to put his country ahead of his ego.
So, you kinda missed the part where I said that, if the determination had been made and we were being kept in the dark that the people doing so should be prosecuted? Or, if he hasn't been determined to be incapable THEN we should all STFU? I think I mentioned both those things, didn't I?
Do I believe everything that the MSM tells me? Nope. Do I believe everything that people with ulterior motives tell me? Nope. And if that's so "brave" of Clooney, why did he wait until AFTER the debate to mention his observations? When did Michael Moore get his doctorate in medicine? Methinks, perhaps, the naysayers aren't looking at all the information available, or considering just what forcing Biden to step aside will mean. The top contenders to replace him at the head of the Democratic ticket certainly have considered the implications - why do you think people like Whitmer and Newsom aren't stepping up??
You don’t need a doctorate to realize when an elderly person is in decline and is now unreliably coherent only sometimes. You only need to have witnessed the decline in someone you once knew ( like I did with my grandmother) to recognize the symptoms . Moore probably did with someone he cared about as well. Even though Clooney took a few weeks to come out. We cannot imagine the pressure people around Joe are under to keep Joe’s lapses from the public eye so we win the election It took Clooney a lot of courage to go up against that pressure more courage than our politicians who will have no faith in Joe privately but publicly support him. I’m just disgusted with the whole thing and feel manipulated by my party. Why won’t Joe agree to have a current INDEPENDENT neurological exam if he has nothing to hide?
Supposedly "recognizing " a decline in an unrelated elderly person that you only see on TV or in videos can also be called "projection." I had a grandfather with dementia - I don't see it in Biden. I've seen other relatives decline as they aged, but I don't see something similar when I see Biden in videos. I don't know his exact circumstances, thus I'm not able to accurately judge his performance in any given setting. I find it amazing that so many feel qualified to do so. As for his reluctance to submit to extraneous testing - I get it. It's insulting, as is the magnification of every little gaffe and the insistence that he step down as a result. Still floors me that so many feel so comfortable dismissing the man with so little knowledge of his day to day circumstances.
It’s exactly why we’re not qualified to pass absolute judgement on Joe’s condition why he needs to be transparent with his party and undergo a complete independent neurological exam now. When you are 81 and running for the most stressful high pressure job in the land you need to put aside any feelings of “being insulted”personally I think we are being too concerned with offending Joe. He needs to reassure the rightfully concerned members of his party that he’s currently fit to serve. Referring to past accomplishments is irrelevant to whether there will be any future accomplishments. I thought only Republicans had blind allegiance to a defective candidate?
I just got done watching the presser with Biden, first one in months, and he did poorly. He called the president of Ukraine "Putin" What?!! I'm sorry, it's time for Biden to step aside.
From Jim Crow Joe to Genocide Joe and now Dementia Joe! What a run...
Btw, it is stunning to see all these Blue MAGA people here losing their mind because Michael Moore says what so many are feeling and saying. It is truly spectatcular to see how quck they turn into the same cultists they despise on the MAGA side of things. Michael Moore was a liberal darling until he stopped only criticzing conservatives.
No no, don't get me wrong. People can disagree with me all day long, that's fine. I was talking about all the comments here being mad that Michael Moore said what most people are thinking.
Well, I think about my own reaction to that George Clooney op-ed in the New York Times, which is "Who the fuck is George Clooney to be telling us who our candidate should be?" Celebrities are an absolute blight on the Democratic party, they reinforce a stereotype of the Democrats as people being led around by the nose by "Hollywood liberals" and allow the Republicans to falsely claim to be a "working class party."
Of course, Moore isn't Clooney, and he has every right to his opinion but I have every right to resent how the opinions of certain people get shunted right up to the top because they've been on TV.
Democrats are so racist that the prospect of a competent but black person in Kamala has them frozen in fear despite the cognitive decline staring them in the 25th Amendment face.
Yes, it was pretty racist how some Democrats were calling for Gavin Newsome or Gretchen Whitmer to step over the Black Lady VP to take it. Fortunately, I'm not hearing that so much any more, and more people seem to be recognizing that it's Biden or Harris. I'd be happy with either one, I'd like the two of them to talk it over and let me know. I'm eager to volunteer and vote to keep Trump out of the White House.
Michael Moore is a privileged cisgender heterosexual man who will do just fine if Trump is elected and destroys democracy. He has the privilege to play around with whether he will support Biden or not.
Trump wins and my HUD/VASH housing goes away, my Obamacare medical coverage goes away, and my right to exist as a Transgender American is revoked. But sure, Mr. Moore matters SO much? No.
He does not believe Biden can win. He believes that Biden's physical and cognitive circumstances will not improve with rest, a different day, more stimulants to improve focus.
My parents are older than Biden. They're both sharp as tacks. Biden clearly isn't so blessed. I suspect the two aneurysms in the 80s play some part in this. The second one almost killed him. He made an excellent recovery, but that old brain insult might have a role in why he's not a Maxine Waters or a Nancy Pelosi or a Bernie Sanders.
Parkinson’s does not cause dementia. He is old and isn’t able to communicate well under pressure. I don’t think that he’s lost cognitive ability, but he’s definitely declining quite rapidly physically . My view is that he should finish his term and pass the torch to Kamala. Too much is at stake.
I’m with Michael and Medhi on his disgusting policy on Gaza. It has made him look weak and is allowing Bibi to play him. That hug made me cringe!
So yes, I’m disgusted with all the candidates, including RFKjr who is worse on Gaza than Biden, though I do like some of his ideas, but I don’t trust him and he is already taking votes from Biden.
Changes in the structure and chemistry of the brain can cause memory and thinking problems in Parkinson’s. Alpha-synuclein, a protein that is central to Parkinson’s, forms sticky clumps, called Lewy bodies, that can disrupt normal brain functioning and lead to dementia.
Carola, you said Parkinson’s doesn’t cause dementia which is false, so I simply replied with the scientific fact. We wouldn’t be talking about any of this if Biden was fine.
Look, the guy's old, I'm not denying that. And he makes old-guy mistakes, he struggles for the right word sometimes, he mixes up names, I know old people who do this (Hell, I'm old myself and sometimes do this myself.)
Is that "cognitive impairment"? When he says "Putin" instead of "Zelensky" is that because he's actually confused between which is which, or it is just a slip-up? There's a difference, right?
What aren’t you understanding? Carola claimed Parkinson’s doesn’t cause dementia and it’s false so I simply stated the facts about Parkinson’s and dementia. I did not say Biden had either
"Changes in the structure and chemistry of the brain CAN cause memory and thinking problems in Parkinson’s. Alpha-synuclein, a protein that is central to Parkinson’s, forms sticky clumps, called Lewy bodies, that CAN disrupt normal brain functioning and lead to dementia." (emphasis added)
And, as you say, "We wouldn’t be talking about any of this if Biden was fine." So the discussion here is clearly about Biden. Yes, please feel free to make your general observations about what Parkinson's CAN do in SOME patients, and don't be surprised if people - here in this discussion about Joe Biden's mental state - read that as a claim about Biden.
I think that one of the biggest reasons Biden is hanging onto his candidacy is that he desperately wants to be the one to preside over the ceasefire in Gaza.
“For Biden to think – and I don't think he thinks this – that he's the only one that is going to do this or the only one that can defeat Trump…it's narcissistic and arrogant to dig in and take this position.”
This is totally incoherent. Michael Moore says he DOESN'T think that Biden thinks this, but then criticizes him for thinking it anyway. If we're requiring people to take cognitive tests...
The Democratic party needs some grease. The rigidity of the party machine makes it so hard to make the shifts that are needed. We need to move quickly and not keep insisting in a candidate who will take it straight to the precipice. And let’s not forget that part of the fault that we are in this mess with two horrible candidates and the democracy crumbling is thanks to the Democrats inaction and complacency.
First, he has neuropathy in both legs (that’s not from a unilateral break). Second, the stuttering thing isn’t what the issue is-he is declining. For evidence of that, one need only compare his inauguration speech or his debates with sarah palin or anything before 2021. It’s obvious and the people making excuses look ridiculous. Everyone can see it. He has had two interviews since (George) and the radio one. Blew it on both. Don’t dems want someone who can win? He can’t. It’s over. Move on
Anybody who has had a client/patient, a friend, a relative show the same confusion, increase in previously-controlled speech defects, and superlative-heavy, belligerent responses to challenges, knows what comes next in the progression of such a decline.
Exactly.
"Don’t dems want someone who can win? He can’t. It’s over. Move on."
But we can't be sure, right? Biden may lose, he may win, the polls are still close. And if he's replaced with someone else, we'd be in the same situation, the polls would still be close. I think we just have to accept that there's no way to know for sure.
He isn’t going to win. He has lost the youth vote, months ago, and now he has lost the faith of some big donors and even colleagues. He has such an issue that he has managed to detract from Trump’s constant lies and the focus of everyone everywhere is on his decline, his flubs, his weakness, his age. This time last cycle everyone was breathing a sigh of relief that our candidate was boring and normal as opposed to Trump. Not the case anymore. He’s lost. Time to face facts.
I just don't take people seriously when they say they know FOR SURE how this will turn out. It's just too close.
How do you explain the polls? Despite all the talk about how the debate was a disaster for Biden, it's still basically a toss-up.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo
Thats ONE pol and almsot every other poll and even their internal polling looks horrible for Biden
What I like about fivethirtyeight is that is doesn't just give one poll, it shows a roundup of all the polls. They're showing five polls post-debate, in Trump's best he's ahead 4 (42-38) in the others he's ahead 3. ahead 1, and tied. What I'm saying is it's close, that's what the polls are saying.
I agree but it should never have been so close, you know? I don't know what could save him but something big needs to happen so he can look better. Otherwise, this discussion will never go away.
He is very likely to lose. The fact that the polls are looking the way they do at the moment is alarming enough. Best polls basically say it is a tie which is historically awful and weak. Against this candidate? And lets be real, this discussion about his decline in the media, the voters and his party will not only not go away but it will get worse, every time he comes out and says "my VP Trump" or that he beat medicare.
And Bidens denial and behavior is becoming very Trumpian. He lost the youth vote, is likely to lose almost every swing state and now even New York is turning into a purple state. I mean...
"Best polls basically say it is a tie..."
If it's a tie, then why is Biden more likely to lose than Trump? When polls are tied, that means it's a tossup, and we can't predict the outcome, it's like trying to predict a coin flip.
Sarah, we’ll said. I’m not sure DemParty is as eager to win S they are to raise $ and not alienate big donor. So it’s up to each on of us to ask Biden to resign and let VP Harris knows we need her now more than ever. We need to ask to do the same.
I suspect there’s a Cult of Biden as there is a Cult of Trump. It may be due to the Trump Contagion that Dr Bandy X Lee, MD refers to.
So now people who disagree with you on this question are "cultists"? This is just hurling insults at people, it's not a serious argument.
Zeteo is an oasis in a media desert.
Perhaps it will evolve to be less reliant on opinion and more 'news' format driven, but I greatly appreciate the opinions and the current structure.
I'm a long time Michael Moore fan so I appreciate this interview and his viewpoint. With Biden - it's not just winning the election, but whether he has the stamina and cognitive ability for another 4 years. Unfortunately people who work in politics and diplomacy often care more about their own careers than what's best for the people they claim to represent.
There are procedures in place should he need to step down and have Harris assume the Presidency. I'd be fine if he did that now, but if he doesn't that doesn't mean he must serve the next four years.
I hate that Moore and Clooney have gotten involved to this extent.
Opinionated celebrities are an absolute blight on the Democratic Party. And of course they help to reinforce a stereotype of the Democrats as being under the influence of "Hollywood elites". And then, what's even worse is when the Republicans point to this to support a claim to be the party of REAL working-class Americans, even though they're the party of billionaire oligarchs.
Why?
Just why and how is Michael Moore sufficiently competent and knowledgeable to comment on Joe Biden's "behaviour"? Why should anyone care, and how is this even journalism, Mehdi? I am really beginning to resent the extent to which "journalism" has degenerated into opinion. Give us some objective evidence and facts, please.
Totally disagree - I find him very interesting and knowledgeable
Thank you, MEHDI. The analogy, between Dems and MAGA, was very appropriate and concerning, in fact disturbing.
We’re being gaslighted. We saw what we saw and Biden is in decline now and will be more so every day. I wonder: Why would Dems want to take such a risk while the majority Dems don’t?
If we’re prosecuted fairly or unfairly and face the death penalty, would we given a choice hire Biden or his VP knowing what we know?
The Trump & the GOP pose an existential threat, to our democracy as well as ecologically. There is cognizant dissonance in our own party when it chooses the least rather than the most qualified. This may be part of the “death spiral” and the “Trump contagion” that Dr Bandy X Lee, MD refers to. I suggest you interview her about this phenomenon although she seems to focus more on Trump and less on Biden, if any.
I sense the immediate priority is or may be, in my view, getting Biden to resign & stopping the Palestinian genocide and holding those responsible accountable are or should be priorities.
You likely notice that far too many Dems who purport to be progressive are silent, hence complicit, as to the plight of Palestinians. BTW, the squad should have not have cowed and embraced Biden. Wouldn’t you agree. Israel and AIPAC are yet more threats to our democracy.
We might consider dealing with apparent trolls in this platform; may I refer it as a sacred space?
Hoper you invite Michael Moore.again. He seemed ostracized. Why? Great interview. We need him in the fray.
Exactly! Agree with everything you wrote here. I was thinking about something similar the other day. Biden is basically turning into Trump 2.0... Far right immigration policy, built the border wall, put his failson into the white house, denies reality and now he even got an awful orange spray tan!
"Trolls" = "People who disagree with me."
"Sacred space" = "A place where NOBODY disagrees with me"
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"inflammatory" doesn't mean "things that make me mad because I disagree with them."
"offensive" doesn't mean "things that offend me because I disagree with them."
And who's posting comments that are irrelevant? The discussion here is about Biden and whether he should stay in. Find me a comment here that doesn't speak to that.
SteveB, I’m not wasting any more time …
That's OK, just throw out your baseless insults and then move on, you're a busy guy.
I am a paid subscriber here and refuse to listen to Moore blather. I WAS a paid subscriber to Michael Moore's Substack, but I refuse to pay anyone to flat out say that Biden's relatives are committing "elder abuse." Nor do I believe that anyone is "forcing" Biden to stay in the race. I think everyone needs to take a chill pill and let the man decide for himself - unless or until he has been deemed non compos mentis. If that determination has been made and the public is being kept in the dark, then the people hiding that should be prosecuted for fraud. If it hasn't been made, then maybe we all just need to STFU.
Sadly, I believe too many people have STFU in Biden’s inner circle and that is precisely why we are in this predicament in the first place. Americans have been let down by the DNC and Biden’s inner circle about the state of his decline and the arrogant view that Joe is the Only candidate available who can beat Trump.Which is nonsense and a back handed insult to other very qualified alternative in the democratic party. I find it courageous for Moore and Clooney to speak up especially Clooney’s admission that he has witnessed Biden’s slip ups in the past 3 weeks. Joe needs to put his country ahead of his ego.
So, you kinda missed the part where I said that, if the determination had been made and we were being kept in the dark that the people doing so should be prosecuted? Or, if he hasn't been determined to be incapable THEN we should all STFU? I think I mentioned both those things, didn't I?
Do I believe everything that the MSM tells me? Nope. Do I believe everything that people with ulterior motives tell me? Nope. And if that's so "brave" of Clooney, why did he wait until AFTER the debate to mention his observations? When did Michael Moore get his doctorate in medicine? Methinks, perhaps, the naysayers aren't looking at all the information available, or considering just what forcing Biden to step aside will mean. The top contenders to replace him at the head of the Democratic ticket certainly have considered the implications - why do you think people like Whitmer and Newsom aren't stepping up??
You don’t need a doctorate to realize when an elderly person is in decline and is now unreliably coherent only sometimes. You only need to have witnessed the decline in someone you once knew ( like I did with my grandmother) to recognize the symptoms . Moore probably did with someone he cared about as well. Even though Clooney took a few weeks to come out. We cannot imagine the pressure people around Joe are under to keep Joe’s lapses from the public eye so we win the election It took Clooney a lot of courage to go up against that pressure more courage than our politicians who will have no faith in Joe privately but publicly support him. I’m just disgusted with the whole thing and feel manipulated by my party. Why won’t Joe agree to have a current INDEPENDENT neurological exam if he has nothing to hide?
Supposedly "recognizing " a decline in an unrelated elderly person that you only see on TV or in videos can also be called "projection." I had a grandfather with dementia - I don't see it in Biden. I've seen other relatives decline as they aged, but I don't see something similar when I see Biden in videos. I don't know his exact circumstances, thus I'm not able to accurately judge his performance in any given setting. I find it amazing that so many feel qualified to do so. As for his reluctance to submit to extraneous testing - I get it. It's insulting, as is the magnification of every little gaffe and the insistence that he step down as a result. Still floors me that so many feel so comfortable dismissing the man with so little knowledge of his day to day circumstances.
It’s exactly why we’re not qualified to pass absolute judgement on Joe’s condition why he needs to be transparent with his party and undergo a complete independent neurological exam now. When you are 81 and running for the most stressful high pressure job in the land you need to put aside any feelings of “being insulted”personally I think we are being too concerned with offending Joe. He needs to reassure the rightfully concerned members of his party that he’s currently fit to serve. Referring to past accomplishments is irrelevant to whether there will be any future accomplishments. I thought only Republicans had blind allegiance to a defective candidate?
Who will prosecute the people keeping us in the dark? And when? After Trump wins?
Sound a bit elder abuse to me.. did you hear him introduce Zelenskyy as president putin.. come on. The games up
I just got done watching the presser with Biden, first one in months, and he did poorly. He called the president of Ukraine "Putin" What?!! I'm sorry, it's time for Biden to step aside.
And he called Kamala “Vice President Trump”
From Jim Crow Joe to Genocide Joe and now Dementia Joe! What a run...
Btw, it is stunning to see all these Blue MAGA people here losing their mind because Michael Moore says what so many are feeling and saying. It is truly spectatcular to see how quck they turn into the same cultists they despise on the MAGA side of things. Michael Moore was a liberal darling until he stopped only criticzing conservatives.
"losing their mind" = "disagreeing with me"
No no, don't get me wrong. People can disagree with me all day long, that's fine. I was talking about all the comments here being mad that Michael Moore said what most people are thinking.
Well, I think about my own reaction to that George Clooney op-ed in the New York Times, which is "Who the fuck is George Clooney to be telling us who our candidate should be?" Celebrities are an absolute blight on the Democratic party, they reinforce a stereotype of the Democrats as people being led around by the nose by "Hollywood liberals" and allow the Republicans to falsely claim to be a "working class party."
Of course, Moore isn't Clooney, and he has every right to his opinion but I have every right to resent how the opinions of certain people get shunted right up to the top because they've been on TV.
Vote Green💚
Democrats are so racist that the prospect of a competent but black person in Kamala has them frozen in fear despite the cognitive decline staring them in the 25th Amendment face.
Yes, it was pretty racist how some Democrats were calling for Gavin Newsome or Gretchen Whitmer to step over the Black Lady VP to take it. Fortunately, I'm not hearing that so much any more, and more people seem to be recognizing that it's Biden or Harris. I'd be happy with either one, I'd like the two of them to talk it over and let me know. I'm eager to volunteer and vote to keep Trump out of the White House.
Michael Moore is a privileged cisgender heterosexual man who will do just fine if Trump is elected and destroys democracy. He has the privilege to play around with whether he will support Biden or not.
Trump wins and my HUD/VASH housing goes away, my Obamacare medical coverage goes away, and my right to exist as a Transgender American is revoked. But sure, Mr. Moore matters SO much? No.
He does not believe Biden can win. He believes that Biden's physical and cognitive circumstances will not improve with rest, a different day, more stimulants to improve focus.
My parents are older than Biden. They're both sharp as tacks. Biden clearly isn't so blessed. I suspect the two aneurysms in the 80s play some part in this. The second one almost killed him. He made an excellent recovery, but that old brain insult might have a role in why he's not a Maxine Waters or a Nancy Pelosi or a Bernie Sanders.
Parkinson’s does not cause dementia. He is old and isn’t able to communicate well under pressure. I don’t think that he’s lost cognitive ability, but he’s definitely declining quite rapidly physically . My view is that he should finish his term and pass the torch to Kamala. Too much is at stake.
I’m with Michael and Medhi on his disgusting policy on Gaza. It has made him look weak and is allowing Bibi to play him. That hug made me cringe!
So yes, I’m disgusted with all the candidates, including RFKjr who is worse on Gaza than Biden, though I do like some of his ideas, but I don’t trust him and he is already taking votes from Biden.
Changes in the structure and chemistry of the brain can cause memory and thinking problems in Parkinson’s. Alpha-synuclein, a protein that is central to Parkinson’s, forms sticky clumps, called Lewy bodies, that can disrupt normal brain functioning and lead to dementia.
Sometimes. I know several people who have Parkinson’s who are fine mentally .
Carola, you said Parkinson’s doesn’t cause dementia which is false, so I simply replied with the scientific fact. We wouldn’t be talking about any of this if Biden was fine.
Thank you, some of the generalizations being made here about people with disabilities are pretty shocking,
The fastest growing profession in the United States is Amateur Neurolgist.
You can’t tell if someone is cognitively impaired without a medical degree?
Sorry, I can't detect Lewy bodies through my TV.
Look, the guy's old, I'm not denying that. And he makes old-guy mistakes, he struggles for the right word sometimes, he mixes up names, I know old people who do this (Hell, I'm old myself and sometimes do this myself.)
Is that "cognitive impairment"? When he says "Putin" instead of "Zelensky" is that because he's actually confused between which is which, or it is just a slip-up? There's a difference, right?
It’s called nominal afasia which happens to even young people under pressure, especially when one is being Gish galloped with a torrent of lies.
Carola made a statement that Parkinson’s doesn’t cause dementia- which is false. I corrected her with the facts.
Not everyone with Parkinsons has dementia. Also, Biden doesn't have Parkinsons. That's just speculation, unsupported by facts.
What aren’t you understanding? Carola claimed Parkinson’s doesn’t cause dementia and it’s false so I simply stated the facts about Parkinson’s and dementia. I did not say Biden had either
"Changes in the structure and chemistry of the brain CAN cause memory and thinking problems in Parkinson’s. Alpha-synuclein, a protein that is central to Parkinson’s, forms sticky clumps, called Lewy bodies, that CAN disrupt normal brain functioning and lead to dementia." (emphasis added)
And, as you say, "We wouldn’t be talking about any of this if Biden was fine." So the discussion here is clearly about Biden. Yes, please feel free to make your general observations about what Parkinson's CAN do in SOME patients, and don't be surprised if people - here in this discussion about Joe Biden's mental state - read that as a claim about Biden.
I think that one of the biggest reasons Biden is hanging onto his candidacy is that he desperately wants to be the one to preside over the ceasefire in Gaza.
“For Biden to think – and I don't think he thinks this – that he's the only one that is going to do this or the only one that can defeat Trump…it's narcissistic and arrogant to dig in and take this position.”
This is totally incoherent. Michael Moore says he DOESN'T think that Biden thinks this, but then criticizes him for thinking it anyway. If we're requiring people to take cognitive tests...
The Democratic party needs some grease. The rigidity of the party machine makes it so hard to make the shifts that are needed. We need to move quickly and not keep insisting in a candidate who will take it straight to the precipice. And let’s not forget that part of the fault that we are in this mess with two horrible candidates and the democracy crumbling is thanks to the Democrats inaction and complacency.