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Valerie Howell's avatar

Thank you for this very timely advice.

Murray Smart's avatar

ICE is acting more like a Trump Street Gang/Enforcers than a Law Enforcement agency. And Kristi Noem is acting like a Gang Leader. Not surprising considering the type of person she is. Keep gathering the Receipts........

Jonathan Hoare's avatar

Well if you happen to have a gun available then shoot the cunt before it shoots you. Of course a baseball bat might help, or a mob of like minded folks. I believe that we should never condone violence. In the defence of ICE agents, we should kill every single one of the mother fuckers. Obviously I am not American, I don’t have an ounce of Native American blood in me, you know the people that the colonialist settlers murdered nearly 90% of. All the same if ICE agents were in the UK I might have something to say about it. That may or may not involve some unnecessary violence. Just sayin!

Mehdididit's avatar

Unnecessary violence is exactly what they want. It gives them a reason to call off the midterms. Notice how the response to ICE’s murder last week has been to increase their presence in Minneapolis.

I went through NPR’s online “museum” on January 6th. The first video struck me profoundly. While the crowd gathered they were mostly yelling at Capitol Police. They shouted shame repeatedly, called them unpatriotic losers and sounded remarkably similar to those of us who protest ICE goons. There the similarities end. The insurrectionists were armed, beat officers and sprayed bear spray. Protesters play instruments, knit, dance and sing, wear silly costumes and ride bikes naked. Our actions, not our words is what is setting us apart from them.

There are a million ways to subvert this regime subtly. Start by spending cash locally, at locally owned businesses. Better yet, go to immigrant owned businesses. If you’re dedicated to the points programs on your cards, you’re part of the problem. You’re shifting the burden of those costs to those who don’t have access (you don’t actually think the bank is just giving you that money or upgrades, do you?)

Quit ordering from Amazon and shopping at Walmart! Cancel streaming services that support the regime. We saw how powerful this can be with the Kimmel cancellation. Harness that power everywhere-it’s already working at The Kennedy Center.

Adjust your W2 forms so you have no federal withholding. Fill out tax forms manually and mail them snail mail. Yes, it’s a pain, but it doesn’t compare to living in a fascist state.

Prepare for a general strike. Set aside food and/or money so you can miss a day or 2 of work. I recognize that’s not practical for a lot of people, but those of us who can could still have an impact. I know immigrants families who haven’t been able to work and they are pooling resources to cook for each other and keep their lights on. Get to know your neighbors!

ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Sending thousands more troops to a place where no citizen was armed?

I believe the president will not be happy until somehow, one of his ICE workers is

hurt by a protester. Why else stoke the fire? Who, exactly, had the guns? The person killed?

No, the killer had the guns. And a car ON ice? Moves slowly and carefully, unlike ICE.

ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Even in these wise instructions about how to NOT be killed, the understandable instructions all point to one thing. BE SILENT. DO AS YOU ARE TOLD, or you might be dead. First of all, please follow these instructions BUT? I don't see instructions like this in our constitution. We can chose to be silent IF we are arrested but? If some human grabs my car door for no reason? NOW? Since these horrific events? I must submit. We seem to have already lost our constitutional right because we might be shot. I still advise you follow the instructions. But what we have lost NEEDING TO or we will be killed?. This is, by the way, what minority populations live with daily.

Steven Zekowski's avatar

Any advice about my first amendment right to call them anything I like, eg, “Nazis, criminal thugs, traitors to our country, etc.” So long as I don’t impede their “work.” Am I right?

P. Skinner's avatar

We are all living a dystopian world of the Trump administration’s own making.

Steve Woodward's avatar

And our own making, too. To the extent that we acquiesce, they get away with their shit and are encouraged to further push the envelope

P. Skinner's avatar

Absolutely. I have railed against voter apathy for decades. I served in the Army and have taken the oath of office six different times in my life. I am angry that Democrat leadership is feckless and Republicans are shiftless. I believe the free vote is our most sacred right; however, people have become complacent in not voting and demanding more from their representatives.

Steve Woodward's avatar

Well, as one of my favorite bumper stickers says, "If God wanted us to vote, She'd have given us candidates."

Susan S.'s avatar

Thank-you, Kim. It's a shame this information is deemed relevant in the first place but here we are.

Lynn's avatar

Thank you for this informative and thorough advice.

JR's avatar

This is some sad, scary 💩!With ICE, in the U.S. we are no longer living in a normal world dealing with rationality. We are living in chaotic madness.

Deborah Kay Kelly's avatar

I don't understand this: "In some states, you do need to give your name if asked (according to a 2004 decision by the Supreme Court)." The linked document refers to "peace officers," or police. This applies to federal police and ICE as well?

Mehdididit's avatar

Thank you for this! I learned a lot-especially that I need to know more about my state laws. You simply can’t trust LE to be honest or even knowledgeable about the laws they are charged with enforcing.

Doug Tarnopol's avatar

So, we play by the rules, they don’t. They win. We break the rules, they win. Who the ever-loving fuck is going to plan and execute on a general fucking strike? Money from where? Disbursed how? Who does that? Who does the nonviolence trainings? Media? Medics? Huh? I see jack fucking shit going on but collapse.

CavyWheek's avatar

Thanks for this article.

RSV's avatar

We are in the middle of a one sided shooting class war. The oligarchs are pulling the strings on both parties who are beholden to them. The tried and true strategy of divide and conquer using racism as the ever effective tactic has polarized the working classes pitting them against each other for the benefit of the ruling class/elites/oligarchs. Both parties serve vulture capitalism and are more than willing to watch the working classes fight each other over crumbs while the

oligarchs pick their pockets. Nothing will substantially change until the working classes recognize how they’re being exploited. I believe if Democrats come to power in the midterms they’ll keep some if not all of Führer Trump’s immigration and foreign policies. Remember that a super majority of Democrats support a genocide in Palestine so they’re as morally bankrupt as MAGA.

Lianne Doherty's avatar

Thank you for this wise advice, Kim! Now we know we do not have to "look or sound like an immigrant" to be treated like the enemy - apparently, WE THE PEOPLE ARE the enemy!