Nope. The longer you make bogus claims like this I.e. it was Waltz, Kamla, not enough money you're missing the point. This should have been an easy win for Kamla. It wasn't. Learn the lesson dude.. So we can move on and its not repeated the same mistakes over and over.
We may well pass carbon failsafe by 2029, so no opportunity for the epic morons of Dearborn (and elsewhere) to apply any lessons—not that I have any faith many will learn any.
Nature, which doesn’t care about our endless horseshit, is fixing to stamp us out. With a lot of help from braindead idiots like you and the good people of Dearborn.
Buddy, when you call someone an idiot rather than argue the point. Your argument is weak. DNC didn't care about the environment or global warming. They cared more about AIPAC. Go complain to them for not caring enough about the environment. And stop bothering me with your poorly thought out ideas and reasoning. That clearly refuses to see reason and facts.
It's ridiculous to think that you are going to commit genoide in the name of white and Jewish supremacy and get a massive surge of black & brown voters.
Black people from the Caribbean and Africa have ancestors who violently resisted slavery. Joe Biden would have called them terrorists.
Supporting Zionism is wrong. It is the same as supporting Nazism. It is the same as supporting a far more brutal, far more evil South African Afrikaaner regime.
The Zionists are just as much colonizers as the Afrikaaners were.
Biden and the Democrats are wrong to support Israel. If you cannot see that the DNC is at its core a racist organisation because of its support of Zionism I don't know what to tell you.
No-one is going to vote for the people who kill their families. You cannot argue to them, ["Oh we kill less of your family than the other guy"]
That is both immoral and insane.
Biden is STILL funding mass murder in Palestine and Lebanon. Biden's bombs are falling in Baalbek, a world heritage site.
Armed resistance to occupation and oppression is a legal right and obligation. Biden's racism will not change that.
Support of genocide in Palestine is, now, as bipartisan as support of South African and Rhodesian apartheid once was.
That will pass.
The Zionist regime must end as the South African regime ended.
The world will not slaughter the Palestinians in the same way that American settlers slaughtered Native Americans.
There is an answer to why so many vote Trump, and it goes back (at least) to the 70s--fall of Saigon, Watergate, massive shutdowns (deindustrialzation), stagflaton, oil crisis, Iran hostage crisis, surge of income inequality, etc. etc. Reagan's "morning in America" is the direct ancestor of "Make America Great Again." It was BS then, and it's BS now. But the pain, rage, loneliness, and pure lostness is real.
Yes, they apparently support worse enemies of the Palestinians, who happen to be fascists, while also consigning civilization to carbon-fueled destruction.
No big deal. Trump will make physics great again and carbon will just instantly become super awesome!
The best part is that he and the entire GOP have no solutions to real problems, so when the failures mount, a whole metric fuckload of internal and external enemies will be needed for blame. An endless fuckload, in fact.
Luckily we’ll have nice new heavily staffed concentration camps lying around for housing subhuman pet-eating rapists before expulsion. Why not increase ROI? Put the traitorous vermin in there till a more permanent solution can be found.
After all, effectively total immunity plus unlimited pardoning power—along with the popular vote and as close to a landslide-mandate as you can get nowadays—leaves him stymied.
We should be just fine. These Dearborn voters a straight-up righteous! Fight the power!
"Worse enemies", I remember someone saying Federick Douglas was offered & rejected the idea of politically supporting a liberal slave owner. He was against slavery. Liberal slavery or conservative (honest) slavery...it is still slavery.
Liberal genocide or conservative (honest) genocide...I am opposed to it and anyone who offers it.
Free, Free, Palestine!! From the River to the Sea!
You cannot win without votes. 30k votes to Jill in Arizona. What the hell are those votes for? Every progressive vote lost is multiple the power of Trump vote. Trump wasn’t going to lose any votes. He has his electorate we gave Jill ours.
You seem to assume that all of those votes would have gone to Kamala. Trust me they wouldn't have. People working to try to get us more options than just a two party system that has been lurching us to the right for decades aren't to blame for this.
People voted for Jill or stayed home because they have morals. They recognized that Palestinians and Lebanese folks are just as human as they are. That's something Biden has never recognized. There is no daylight between Biden & Trump on this issue.
Beyond. I just don’t understand after all the mobilisation ~ how this is possible. I actually am leading towards the conspiracy theory that Elon and the Russian trolls did something to the computers. I know that sounds crazy but I just don’t understand this.
I think Biden's genocide turned off a lot of folks. AND I think a LOT of Democrats voted for Trump. There are a LOT of racist Democrats after all. Biden's mass murders are ongoing proof of that. You have to be intensely racist to starve people to death and supply bullets to snipers so that they can shoot kids in the head.
Sigh! An absolute trash of a person like JD Vance will be a heartbeat away, Bobby will go nuts on food and drugs and everything and Mr. Musk is going to cause temporary hardship by cutting $2 trillion. These 4 years will be the end of our country :(
Jill Stein and her acolytes got what they wanted. Trump finish the Job in Gaza, there is blood on the useful idiots hands. Protest Steven Miller and Jared. Politics is ultimately about winning. I thought progressives got that message in 2016.
DNC needs young peoples and progressive voters. Period. They were too arrogant and wrapped up with AIPAC to see that. They did nothing to even move 1/8th of an inch in keeping progressive voters. NOTHING. If DNC think they can run and win without young people and progressives voice being heard or listened to. Let this serve as a reminder. They need them. And sending Bill Clinton to Michigan and he said what he did just explains what DNC think. And who's controlling the DNC. This is on DNC. Don't blame anyone but them. If you They didn't care enough to budge sooo little. They deserve to loose. It's called self Interest. Yet AIPAC is more important to them.
We have enough progressives, but some want to be all or nothing. Well we get nothing. 10% of something is always better than 100% of nothing . At some point WINNING has to count more than absolutism.
At some point. Catering for your base and what they want is more important then PAC money. 1 billion dollars later. Kamla looses. And DNC RESPONCE is we need more money. No dude, you need to do us cater to YOUR VOTER BASE WANT!!!
Also MSNBC is saying that they should have chosen Shapiro. Dude Waltz was really good. Walt's and kamla as candidates were not the problem. DNC bad pro Genocide policy was the problem.
Yeah but even if she had won. The mass murders would not have ended and smug lil liberals would have continued ignoring the genocide.
Also, it was NOT the anti-genocide Jill Stein vote that masde her lose. Lots of Democrats must have voted for Trump. The Dems sponsored genocide and told people to shut up and accept it.
Then, some of their own defected to Trump. Imagine...if anti-genocide voters had compromised their principles and she STILL lost?
I think anti-genocide voters can be happy that they still have their integrity.
I suspect Gaza has something to do with the shift in the POC vote.
When you tout yourself as the party of social justice and minorities, people give you the benefit of the doubt.
When minorities see you having no qualms butchering Gazan children by the tens of thousands, you come across - at best - as a hypocrite, even to those who don't care about Gazans.
I can totally see someone disillusioned with the Dems' supposed commitment to social justice voting for Trump for fiscal reasons for example
It says that maybe genocides shouldn't be overlooked... Largely speaking... Then it also says that doesn't matter how much you'd like to differentiate between the two, there's nothing that indicates they aren't the same person.
This was a DNC LOSS. They lost Young voters and people who couldn't support a Genocide.
I love how you realize that repeating something over and over makes it true.
The culprits are many.
Nope. The longer you make bogus claims like this I.e. it was Waltz, Kamla, not enough money you're missing the point. This should have been an easy win for Kamla. It wasn't. Learn the lesson dude.. So we can move on and its not repeated the same mistakes over and over.
We may well pass carbon failsafe by 2029, so no opportunity for the epic morons of Dearborn (and elsewhere) to apply any lessons—not that I have any faith many will learn any.
Nature, which doesn’t care about our endless horseshit, is fixing to stamp us out. With a lot of help from braindead idiots like you and the good people of Dearborn.
Buddy, when you call someone an idiot rather than argue the point. Your argument is weak. DNC didn't care about the environment or global warming. They cared more about AIPAC. Go complain to them for not caring enough about the environment. And stop bothering me with your poorly thought out ideas and reasoning. That clearly refuses to see reason and facts.
Fine, be a monomaniac. Passing carbon failsafe will secure a Palestinian state, I’m sure.
It's ridiculous to think that you are going to commit genoide in the name of white and Jewish supremacy and get a massive surge of black & brown voters.
Black people from the Caribbean and Africa have ancestors who violently resisted slavery. Joe Biden would have called them terrorists.
Supporting Zionism is wrong. It is the same as supporting Nazism. It is the same as supporting a far more brutal, far more evil South African Afrikaaner regime.
The Zionists are just as much colonizers as the Afrikaaners were.
Biden and the Democrats are wrong to support Israel. If you cannot see that the DNC is at its core a racist organisation because of its support of Zionism I don't know what to tell you.
No-one is going to vote for the people who kill their families. You cannot argue to them, ["Oh we kill less of your family than the other guy"]
That is both immoral and insane.
Biden is STILL funding mass murder in Palestine and Lebanon. Biden's bombs are falling in Baalbek, a world heritage site.
Armed resistance to occupation and oppression is a legal right and obligation. Biden's racism will not change that.
Support of genocide in Palestine is, now, as bipartisan as support of South African and Rhodesian apartheid once was.
That will pass.
The Zionist regime must end as the South African regime ended.
The world will not slaughter the Palestinians in the same way that American settlers slaughtered Native Americans.
It is clearly true. Or haven’t you seen the results? Kamala choose to ignore an important part of the electorate. Either ignorant or just arrogant.
There is an answer to why so many vote Trump, and it goes back (at least) to the 70s--fall of Saigon, Watergate, massive shutdowns (deindustrialzation), stagflaton, oil crisis, Iran hostage crisis, surge of income inequality, etc. etc. Reagan's "morning in America" is the direct ancestor of "Make America Great Again." It was BS then, and it's BS now. But the pain, rage, loneliness, and pure lostness is real.
Nah, they’re just assholes. Unless you want to just piss all over the millions of Americans who were equally fucked over and voted against Trump.
Michael Moore was right on one point:
Genocide was bad Karma for Kamala.
But sorry, nice people don't support a genocide.
Yes, they apparently support worse enemies of the Palestinians, who happen to be fascists, while also consigning civilization to carbon-fueled destruction.
No big deal. Trump will make physics great again and carbon will just instantly become super awesome!
The best part is that he and the entire GOP have no solutions to real problems, so when the failures mount, a whole metric fuckload of internal and external enemies will be needed for blame. An endless fuckload, in fact.
Luckily we’ll have nice new heavily staffed concentration camps lying around for housing subhuman pet-eating rapists before expulsion. Why not increase ROI? Put the traitorous vermin in there till a more permanent solution can be found.
After all, effectively total immunity plus unlimited pardoning power—along with the popular vote and as close to a landslide-mandate as you can get nowadays—leaves him stymied.
We should be just fine. These Dearborn voters a straight-up righteous! Fight the power!
Doug, what did you do to try to stop the genocide you're complicit in? Did you think we would get to go on our merry ways without any consequences?
If you actually did something, then go on, you've earned some right to complain. Otherwise blame yourself.
$500 bucks to the Brown kids camping out; couple of visits. Many letters to university presidents. What did you do?
"Worse enemies", I remember someone saying Federick Douglas was offered & rejected the idea of politically supporting a liberal slave owner. He was against slavery. Liberal slavery or conservative (honest) slavery...it is still slavery.
Liberal genocide or conservative (honest) genocide...I am opposed to it and anyone who offers it.
Free, Free, Palestine!! From the River to the Sea!
I take that to mean you did nothing to stop it.
Ohh...you mean I should reach up and catch Biden's bombs as if they were basketballs? That what you mean?
What are you saying?
Wow, you’re so pure! Can I be like you—making politics about self-advertisement?
Why didn't DNC stop Bidens stupid Genocidal policy. They lost the progressives. This is on DNC. No one but them.
Why did idiots vote for Jill?
Kamla should have won Hands down. DNC LOST this election.
You cannot win without votes. 30k votes to Jill in Arizona. What the hell are those votes for? Every progressive vote lost is multiple the power of Trump vote. Trump wasn’t going to lose any votes. He has his electorate we gave Jill ours.
You seem to assume that all of those votes would have gone to Kamala. Trust me they wouldn't have. People working to try to get us more options than just a two party system that has been lurching us to the right for decades aren't to blame for this.
Why do you spell Kamala wrong?
People voted for Jill or stayed home because they have morals. They recognized that Palestinians and Lebanese folks are just as human as they are. That's something Biden has never recognized. There is no daylight between Biden & Trump on this issue.
Moral people will never support genocide.
I told you Kamala would lose.
“Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.” – Robert Louis Stevenson
Beyond. I just don’t understand after all the mobilisation ~ how this is possible. I actually am leading towards the conspiracy theory that Elon and the Russian trolls did something to the computers. I know that sounds crazy but I just don’t understand this.
Lots of fascist monsters in our country.
That is crazy.
Let’s be honest you didn’t have much too choose from. Two people paid and control by the same guys.
One crazy and the other one a coward.
No
I think Biden's genocide turned off a lot of folks. AND I think a LOT of Democrats voted for Trump. There are a LOT of racist Democrats after all. Biden's mass murders are ongoing proof of that. You have to be intensely racist to starve people to death and supply bullets to snipers so that they can shoot kids in the head.
https://open.substack.com/pub/danielpinchbeck/p/was-the-election-hacked
Importance of voting with your conscience! That’s all!
Anyone who thinks trumps rhetoric is good!
Is simply stupid.
there is nor logical reason for liking that hatred. its idiot stuff . idiots like it.
There is one thing behind that sot of adulation, it is stupidity, nothing else.
How,
Its the culture,
the gun bit is an obvious fault in the culture
But there are so many others, a divine rite.
Holier than though.
By the lowest in the country.
People who cant read.
Big business has bred this culture . Maccas.
super size me
Musk is the classic example right now.
We saw it happen in the last week or so.
He played with the culture real quick.
Sigh! An absolute trash of a person like JD Vance will be a heartbeat away, Bobby will go nuts on food and drugs and everything and Mr. Musk is going to cause temporary hardship by cutting $2 trillion. These 4 years will be the end of our country :(
Jill Stein and her acolytes got what they wanted. Trump finish the Job in Gaza, there is blood on the useful idiots hands. Protest Steven Miller and Jared. Politics is ultimately about winning. I thought progressives got that message in 2016.
DNC needs young peoples and progressive voters. Period. They were too arrogant and wrapped up with AIPAC to see that. They did nothing to even move 1/8th of an inch in keeping progressive voters. NOTHING. If DNC think they can run and win without young people and progressives voice being heard or listened to. Let this serve as a reminder. They need them. And sending Bill Clinton to Michigan and he said what he did just explains what DNC think. And who's controlling the DNC. This is on DNC. Don't blame anyone but them. If you They didn't care enough to budge sooo little. They deserve to loose. It's called self Interest. Yet AIPAC is more important to them.
We have enough progressives, but some want to be all or nothing. Well we get nothing. 10% of something is always better than 100% of nothing . At some point WINNING has to count more than absolutism.
At some point. Catering for your base and what they want is more important then PAC money. 1 billion dollars later. Kamla looses. And DNC RESPONCE is we need more money. No dude, you need to do us cater to YOUR VOTER BASE WANT!!!
Also MSNBC is saying that they should have chosen Shapiro. Dude Waltz was really good. Walt's and kamla as candidates were not the problem. DNC bad pro Genocide policy was the problem.
You are the problem—or rather a problem.
Also was surprised to not hear anyone responding to Clinton by asking if what he says applies to native Americans too
Yes!! That would have been amazing. Clinton is a lifelong fan of settlement & extermination, it seems.
If you wanted a different outcome all you had to do was scream loudly and often at Biden to end his support of genocide and oppression.
If you didnt do that...you got what you deserved.
Jill Stein is on the right side of history. Biden and his fellow racist psychopaths are on the wrong side of history.
Yes you’re 100% correct, but who cares she has no power to do anything.
Yeah but even if she had won. The mass murders would not have ended and smug lil liberals would have continued ignoring the genocide.
Also, it was NOT the anti-genocide Jill Stein vote that masde her lose. Lots of Democrats must have voted for Trump. The Dems sponsored genocide and told people to shut up and accept it.
Then, some of their own defected to Trump. Imagine...if anti-genocide voters had compromised their principles and she STILL lost?
I think anti-genocide voters can be happy that they still have their integrity.
Let’s see, the other guy said finish the job. We will see what that looks like when Stephen and Jared are in the White House again.
I suspect Gaza has something to do with the shift in the POC vote.
When you tout yourself as the party of social justice and minorities, people give you the benefit of the doubt.
When minorities see you having no qualms butchering Gazan children by the tens of thousands, you come across - at best - as a hypocrite, even to those who don't care about Gazans.
I can totally see someone disillusioned with the Dems' supposed commitment to social justice voting for Trump for fiscal reasons for example
They’re as stupid and immoral as can be.
It doesn't matter how lost I am
I would still, even more so, if I was down and out.
Never vote for such a spiteful crim.
Its nothing to do with Liz Cheeny. They probably wouldn't hear of her.
Sadly its a culture of ignorance.
Called , sadly, Stupidity.
I still can’t believe the results. What does it say about our country :(. Despite all that Trump has said, he is winning :(
This is 2016 all over again, we all knew without 100% progressive support the numbers are not good.
It says that maybe genocides shouldn't be overlooked... Largely speaking... Then it also says that doesn't matter how much you'd like to differentiate between the two, there's nothing that indicates they aren't the same person.
Fascism.
I hear Portugal is nice.
Misogyny and racism + inflation and misinformation = Trump victory
We need to immediately start organizing the resistance, we are in despair, but we need collective action