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Lianne Doherty's avatar

I could not watch the video: 1) Do not have Instragram & 2) Don't have the stomach for watching cold-blooded murder.

Are there any prosecutors with a backbone that will take this case & prosecute it to the maximum? ANYONE? I have a much nicer selection of adjectives to call this murderous MF!

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Oh the possibilities in several languages for adjectives. I still think

Murders, as screamed by neighbors says it all. Remember their outrage

THey are what remains as good in the country and?

They were under attack by the goon squared. Banana Republic indeed.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Video was blocked, I couldn’t watch it. Good ol’ Zuckerberg hiding the truth again.

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CK's avatar

It looks to me like he just got mad and shot her because they pissed him off. His behavior and reaction in just like those when people have road rage. He's just trying to justify it after the fact with a self defense argument.

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Karin's avatar

Bingo.

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dboing dboing's avatar

this implies certain rules of engagment being likely very "permissive" from higher up...

That and the recruitment profile target type: "shake" and voilà.

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Elle Flanders's avatar

The video has already been restricted in canada with an IG statement (my notes in brackets): “we received a legal request to restrict this content (hmmm, I wonder by whom and why? 🧐). We reviewed it against our policies and conducted a legal and human rights assessment (maybe META should consult with actual human rights orgs as it seems they have no idea what that means). After the review we restricted access to the content in the location where it goes against local law.” (Curious, but I’m in Canada, which “local law” does this video contravene?) on the other hand, where we have hate laws in canada against racism, trans rights etc, META doesn’t seem to have a problem broadcasting. Which is it guys?

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dboing dboing's avatar

I should have read your comment before posting mine. Same loss of rationality suspension...

About Zuckerberg's lordship technology.

But then I watched it on the Alpha thing. (Alpha, a poor Greek alphabet letter being abused in all manners...). Did not look at replies. The crash sound at the end reminded me of its meaning. (I saw a long first version yesterday with full audio, and the realization of the thugs reacting like the emotionally retarded fucks that they are/were resulted in a civilian death.)

One that dared do civil protest in concern for those not having the same rights (de facto).

What an insult in itself that must have been, do I infer from what I saw? She was even polite, and preventively de-escalating, assuming a normal human being behind the masks, guns, uniform and bullying language, and all the know street behavior past history of this violent organization, only sworn to the king and his court. That analogy sounds weak now. This is not just sycophancy; this is a program.

Even if the other passenger was not their majesty's deferential ego flatterer, that kind of manifestly already primed anger from the thugs killing anyone not obedient enough, no doubt allowed about their reaction being that of a threatened non-thug and non-gun-toting victim of their angry souls, is disturbing to watch. So the crash sound was heavy.

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dboing dboing's avatar

I could have toned down my emotional steam let out.. English not my native language so some words might come out clunky swears. I noticed that swears are really more meaningfuls in own native language. I do have a problem with violent autorhity in my sight. Guns and civilians . I find the onus of responsibility with dangerous behavior should be on the ones being licensed to deliver violence.

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Sally Livingston's avatar

Canadian here. The restriction is part of Zuckerberg's revenge for our online news act, which requires platforms like Meta to compensate Canadian news outlets for use of their reporting.

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Ardrid's avatar

Be mindful of the organization that released this footage. A quick media bias search will confirm they are far right, traffic in conspiracy theories, and are generally untrustworthy. Even though this footage doesn't remotely help them the way they think it does, I would wait for credible confirmation from people who were actually there, namely Renee's wife.

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Sand's avatar

Yes. I saw the reel on IG and the comments are just a bunch of right wing crackpots saying it proves the shooting was justified. It doesn't. But it does give more context on what she and her wife were doing so I do want to know if it's real. Plus, if you're in fear for your life you don't say "fucking bitch" after you've shot her in the face.

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moi's avatar

I think he may a hx of abusing women, imo but I thought that remark was weird.

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Redreamer's avatar

yes and i think it was shared specifically because people are claiming you can see the moment the car hit him - but no - that was the recoil from the gun when he pressed the trigger - it in fact inplacates him further especially in light of the comment at the end.

I get the distinct impression he is a raving misogynist and the two women laughed at him and were NOT scared enough. He flipped out. Killed Renee

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

YIKES! How can I still be so naive? Far right is also wearing a mask and behind that mask, passing along lies, not information. Thank you so much Ardrid.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Thank you for reminding me that the first amendment is no longer applicable in the USA

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Karin's avatar
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It's heartbreaking to see Renee Good and realize she was killed just a few moments after this video. She was totally non-confrontational, but I must say I think you are misinterpreting her wife's remarks. She was not "joking" with the agents, she was mocking them, and that may have enraged them, insecure pussies that they are.

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Luther M Ragin Jr's avatar

Karin, I think you may have cracked this thing.

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Karin's avatar

In New Jersey, if somebody says "you wanna come at me, get yourself some lunch(or pack a lunch)", you are telling them that if they come after you, it's not going to be quick or easy. I don't know how Minnesota Nice works, but I don't think she was telling ICE to enjoy a nice meal. These guys are so brave, loaded down with weapons, but can't tolerate a woman talking back to them.

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Redreamer's avatar

you know what they say - men are scared women will laugh at them and women are scared men will kill them.

THIS is that. They were too comfortable and didn't show fear but they did dismiss him and he LOST it.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

So what? Mocking is a crime punishable by death? In that case? T he president and all his idiot twelve year old supporters deserve to die? Much as I loath them? WE USED TO HAVE LAWS. You can't murder people who taunt you. Or speak to you. Or try to get home as a black teen chased by a white man for going to buy junk food!!!!!

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Luther M Ragin Jr's avatar

She was explaining, not justifying.

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Karin's avatar

Thank you Luther. Rosanne did misunderstand my comment. I thought I made clear in the first sentence where my sympathies lie.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Sorry Karin. I sure did misunderstand and shoot my mouth off.

What I hate about technology is how fast we talk before we think

and I owe you an apology

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Karin's avatar

No problem. It's harder to detect nuance in a comment on the internet than in person.

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dboing dboing's avatar

it might be small chunks of text and language itself that is an obstacle to real thought communicaoni. fortunately there is conversation of many turns to adjust that limitation. it needs good faith and allowing doubt while sharing opinion and reasoning that is emotionally/morally disturbing or triggering. I enjoy seeing that.. rare I would think in social media or debate traditions of late.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

I learned so much today about the language and mind to bring to comments especially at these times. We want support and community. But emotions are big. Simply put? I think we are scared. And no one wants to feel that. But? Strength is found through fear. Not just anger. We all want the hate to stop. So I will try to model compassion and? Really listening. Thank you all

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Who cares what she was doing? She was TALKING. Is that now justification for shooting someone?

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Nico Mitchell's avatar

Notice how the agent switches hands for his phone before she starts moving the car at all, seemingly in response to being taunted by her partner. He was clearly prepping to shoot, and circled the car again just to make sure he was in front of it.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

You are so right! A pissing contest with a brave woman and her partner. THAT Is what she was shot for. She won a pissing contest with a caveman and paid with her partners life.

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Karin's avatar

Good point.

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Joshua Irving Gershick's avatar

MURDER. We've all seen the footage, from various angles. Murder. And NOT a little misogyny and most probably homophobia. The murderer's "fucking b*tch" coda seals it. ICE are lawless hoodlums.

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Nancy's avatar
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I could not watch it. I did see video clips from other sources (the NYT, the WaPo and MS NOW) of the movements of the vehicle and the agents and formed my own opinion before I heard or read it confirmed in media outlets. Ms. Good was driving her vehicle away from, not toward Ross, in an apparent attempt to avoid him. He moved toward the vehicle as the vehicle moved away from him. As reflected in at least one video clip, he shot at Ms. Good through the driver’s side front window at a distance that was approximately arms length. That showed an intent to kill — how could a shot at such a short range directly into the driver’s side window (a head shot) not be intended to kill? After the shooting, Ross walked away from the vehicle in a fully upright position. He followed the vehicle on foot after it collided with another vehicle and did not appear to be hurt in any way. That Governor Walz is not calling for an independent investigation into this terribly shocking and disturbing incident after the FBI shut the state out is to my mind unforgivable. He gave such a restrained and weak response, particularly as compared to that of Minneapolis’s mayor. Walz’ is the kind of weak-kneed response we’ve come to expect from national Democrats, though. This just adds to my disrespect for him following the nasty comments he made about students protesting the genocide in Gaza. (Those comments weren’t widely reported, but I did inadvertently catch an interview in which he made them). I did read that the Hennepin County prosecutor appears to be launching her own investigation and is seeking videos and eye-witness accounts. Surely the county can gather enough evidence of its own to move forward independently of the corrupt Feds. It has to be done. I am sickened by what our country has become.

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Protect the Vote's avatar

Cheeto’s Morality Governs America And World

In a disgusting display of arrogance and lawlessness Cheeto declared that the only thing now that can stop him is his own morality!!( https://bit.ly/4r5RS15)

Let that sink in for a moment This demented depraved malignant narcissist just said the quiet dictator speak out loud No laws constrain him or his regime No domestic or international norms can check his decision making No advisors or country’s opinions will make any difference as to what he will do

Yes How he views the world and his own immoral depravity will decide how he will proceed

This is the culmination of years of a psychotic mind’s development that is now so demented that it leverages the free domestic and world order Time to protest like never before and call your Congress people to obstruct him in every way possible It may not take a midterm election to get him impeached

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Charles McMillion's avatar

Especially with this video angle, Zeteo needs to follow up on the initial false claim that the ICE agent was hit by the car before he shot. There was even a claim that the officer was taken to hospital. Even if local police cannot investigate, someone needs to investigate this initial claim and broadcast the truth.

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Sand's avatar

The video taken by one of the neighbors showed him walking away just fine and covering his face with his mask. He didn't seem injured in any way.

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Charles McMillion's avatar

Yes, and I've not seen a single mention of this fact in any major news reports.

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dboing dboing's avatar

that was from official sources being transmitted automatically through MSM... and of course the enthralled internet sources, there are other sources on the internet. Well reading other comments it seems I should use past tense. how spread is that kind of censorship or self-censorship (fear induced)?

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Wes's avatar

Fucking bastard.

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Simply Susan's avatar

I hope records of the murderer's criminal past are published. I have a feeling we would see domestic violence there.

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Redreamer's avatar

agree

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Richard's avatar

Saw the video earlier on Aaron Parnas's Substack. Can't watch it again.

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dboing dboing's avatar

you think creator or "substack"? action?

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CavyWheek's avatar

Worthless scumbag needs to be in prison for murder, and so many other scum ICE "officer" thugs for the laws most of them have broken. FUCK ICE.

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dboing dboing's avatar

in canada. upon shared instagramn link. I get this:

video not shaerable in my country (forgot detail there) but cliking on "why " button here the verbatim. anyone experiencing that and understanding. I never go on that kind of social media. too much attention load for me..

""" We received a legal request to restrict this content. We reviewed it against our policies and conducted a legal and human rights assessment.

After the review, we restricted access to the content in the location where it goes against local law.

You can learn more about content restrictions in our Transparency Center.

"""

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