Mehdi, Why don't you focus on what alternative we have if not Trump or Kamala. Why giving free media time to monsters like Trump and Kamala? Did you not see how Kamala reacted to protestors in Michigan?
Put all your energy behind Jill Stein. Let's see if we can make an independent very powerful.
Conservative democrats, and there is plenty of them, will never go for Jill Stein. Most important is that we still have a democracy, the rest we have to work on.
I appreciate your concerns regarding the selection of Jill Stein. It is true that some Conservative party members may not support her, despite her commendable qualities and her advocacy for peace. However, please remember that our democracy remains intact, regardless of individual preferences or party lines.
We have maintained our democratic principles even during and after the tenure of Trump. Therefore, the notion that our democracy is at risk is unfounded and serves only to instill unnecessary fear.
As for my personal stance, I am responsible for my own decisions and values. I will continue to support a candidate who promotes peace and opposes genocide, rather than succumbing to baseless fears and illusions.
I appreciate your opinions. But just not conservatives, moderates as well. I believe many voters think it’s too late to rally around Jill Stein. She doesn’t have enough momentum, unfortunately. Trump and project 2025 are very dangerous. We can kiss democracy goodbye. Study project 2025.
I will be actively encouraging others to reconsider their support for Demoncrats and save their own souls. My stance is rooted in a deep commitment to ethical governance and the prevention of atrocities.
Trump has no power to do anything so the fear mongering of Demoncrats is not going to work. I am committed to fight Project 2025 and any initiatives that may lead to the harm of innocent people. It is better to fight for peace and justice within our own borders, rather than supporting actions that could result in the loss of innocent lives elsewhere.
I can’t imagine voting for someone co-responsible for a genocide. I will not have that on my conscience. I really don’t understand people who are against the genocide and for Harris.
Yes, a better option would be to let the US become a Christo-Fascist Theocracy. I'm really looking forward to my daughter losing all her rights, and being forced into either celibacy or reproductive slavery. It's going to be wonderful when we don't have to vote anymore, or learn anything inconvenient about our history. And seriously, who cares about anyone who isn't a white, hetero, cis-gender male. Trump hates Muslim people more than he hates Black people, so he'll make absolutely certain that the Palestinian people are wiped off the face of the earth so his son-in-crime Jared can have some prime coastal real estate. VP Harris is not co-responsible for genocide, and if you want any hope to bringing an end to our involvement with Israel you need to suck it up and vote for her.
Well said! To vote third party, seems extremely selfish. How could you live with yourself, when all Muslims are deported, Palestine completely gone and a handmaids tale agenda enforced in US?
At least I stood up for Palestine?? Then you have ask yourself, what good did that do?
She's VP. She can't easily go against her boss. She has no power at all. I don't expect her to be wonderful on Gaza - she might have done the usual American president thing where they're ok with limited genocide, but then they call a stop to it, like Ronnie did in '82, or I think even Biden did in 2021 or so ("we're out of runway here"). It's enough better to be worth it.
For the record, I've been a Gaza activist. I go to the local vigil most weeks, write to Joe and Kamala often, and called my MoC every couple days for a while until he flipped and supported a ceasefire. And donate to JVP and other groups.
Thank you for laying it out. Harris-Walz are a long way from being perfect, too close to middle of the road. Which means they could jump either way in a fix. But faced with trump and his backers, Harris-Walz is the only option to my mind.
So, then, what is the decision to be made? Voting for Kamala is not a healthy option.
Your article lays out the facts without any analysis on what should be done. Perhaps that is intentional.
However, voting for Democrats right now, while they are implementing a genocide and attacking a number of countries alongside Israel is not a viable option, either.
Harris Walz are not perfect but far better than poor Joe. I too support Joll Stein but she realistically cannot win. Everyone has cried wolf too many times with the most important election ever spin this time zt the age of 81 believe it - he should NEVER have been allowed to run at all. Dems stopped Bernie trump could have been prevented. I voted fir Greens forever byt I cannot survive a dictatorship and willing tobgive Harris a chance. Biden refuses to resign she has NO choice at this time except to do his policy. Read her book youvwill get a more clear picture. Both she and Walz would respond to pressure and she is not Netanyahu friendly. I heard give him a chance over and over-she isclower risk give her a chance
That is true. But I don't think Trump would be better. Do you? He will not allow protest and he wants to wrap up in a bow the West Bank for Netanyahu. Much more than that I'm sure. I agree with the comment, and btw it is a fact a third party cannot win. Do what you think makes sense to you.
The smart choice is voting for Harris/Walz, and hope for the best. I believe the ticket will be more progressive than Biden. She is vp under the Biden administration, so still bound to his agenda, and limited in what she can say or do, until she has the power.
Without a livable planet--especially for the most vulnerable--much of the world will look like Gaza does now. And even worse for many. "Drill, baby, drill," is a euphemism for screw everybody. There is more than one death trip to resist.
Save the humans now and we will worry about the future later. I won't support hypocrites who are are actively supporting and supplying weapons for the GENOCIDE.
There are autocrats who have not enabled or aided a GENOCIDE in the way the Demoncrats have. There is no proof that Trump, often labeled as a fascist, will become an autocrat. He didn't get the chance to do so during his term from 2016 to 2020, and he won't get the chance this time either. The point is to bring humiliation to those who enable GENOCIDE.
Thanks Mehdi for your critical thinking. I hope many people will not vote for the autocrat. Please realize that we have two choices. Pick one or none. Or vote 3rd party and waste your gas and time voting. 3rd party voters cannot win. That's just a fact
I'm glad everytime I get disillusioned with the Biden/Harris administration, you make a post as a gentle and kind reminder of the utter horrifying agendas on the horizon.
I am reading this book called “How civil wars start: And how to stop them” by Barbara Walter. Based on the book it feels like we are doomed no matter what. If Trump wins, we are screwed as Mehdi has laid out. If Trump loses, then his supporters might turn to violence. He is an ego maniac who wouldn’t shy away from dog whistles encouraging his supporters to anoint him king no matter what. What a sad and sorry state we are in, sadly :(
This looks like propaganda for the most part. Having said that, we only have Democrats to blame for being in this horrible situation in the first place.
Every time someone says, "we survived" Trump's first term, I think about all the people who literally didn't survive!
I'm extremely unhappy with Harris's positions on many life-and-death issues, like Gaza, the border, policing, etc. I just realize that voting for "the lesser of two evils" will slow down the erosion of freedom and safety when a fascist movement could take power.
Jill Stein is not going to be President. Between the electoral college and our two-party system, presidential elections are sadly not a matter of popular will.
Voting for Jill Stein is not going to bring an end to American imperialism or the carceral state or increase anyone's freedom or safety in any way. To me, stopping fascism at the ballot box is still compatible with other acts of democracy to get closer to those goals.
It is more effective to fight fascism and injustice within our own borders rather than supporting hypocritical policies of Demoncrats that contribute to violence and suffering abroad. Demoncrats are equally or actually more responsible for the sufferings in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan and Palestine.
No, I'm really not! I just think the American electoral system is so deeply illegitimate and flawed that my vote is simply not an expression of my consent or my will. The presidential election comes down to some 10s of thousands of people in swing states so it doesn't really matter what the rest of us do anyway.
I keep recommending the book "The Constitutional Bind" by Aziz Rana because he does an incredible analysis of how explicitly the US Constitution was set up for minority/elite rule and is actually a "counter-revolutionary" and anti-popular will document.
Then he gets into an extraordinary deep-dive into how fetishization of the US Constitution has underpinned American imperialism from the beginning, including acquiescing to a view of presidential power that facilitates unaccountable and excessive discretion.
Within this context, I think that handwringing over the ethics of "rewarding" a candidate with your vote is missing the bigger picture.
If your vote doesn't matter in terms of who wins the election (because you don't live in one of the swing states and are not a part of the 10s of thousands whose votes matter), then it seems to me you are free to vote your conscience (or not vote at all). Given that you are opposed to much that the Democrats do, including the genocide, why would you use your (only symbolic) vote to show support for these evil people?
I don't think Rana's book (which I agree is excellent) has any bearing here. I think he'd say that, especially if you're not living in a place where you vote has any impact, you should feel free to vote your conscience.
I realize my two posts are disjointed, because I wasn't planning on writing a response and was trying to condense my points in the first one. I have voted third party or write-in in the last several presidential elections and plan to do so again because I have the "luxury" of "throwing my vote away."
Unlike you, I live in a swing state, but still will be unable to vote for Harris, unless she disavows the genocide. I've mostly voted for third parties during my many decades of voting, but sometimes have voted for the Democrat (for example, I voted for Bill Clinton before his first term; I voted third party when ran a second time, following his abominable performance (three strikes you're out??? ). Here, I'm confronted by, perhaps, the most genocide of my lifetime (hard to say, given all the wars we've been engaged in). But at some point, we must, I think, be guided by a moral compass that has some meaning. Defending American 'democracy' (which doesn't exist) vs supporting the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people is not a difficult decision. We must support humanity, not false or imagined democracies.
I understand where you're coming from and appreciate you laying out your perspective.
People have different concepts of what voting in a US presidential elections means. Telling someone who says they won't vote for Harris that they want Trump to win and telling someone who would vote for her that they support genocide require similar assumptions about other people's subjective motivations and the strategy they've chosen in the electoral system.
I'm mostly trying to think about the genocide somewhat outside the context of the election because November is a long way away (and inauguration day is even further) so we need to continue putting pressure on the current administration, including Harris, to stop arming Israel immediately. Every day more people are dead, maimed, injured, losing family members, starving, getting infections. I think protesting at her events and demanding concrete action in exchange for considering voting for her are effective strategies for keeping the pressure on.
There is a genocide happening, and those responsible (Demoncrats) for enabling and executing it must be held accountable. Let Americans understand and empathize with what Gaza is experiencing right now by going through the same pain.
There is something very off with the Zeteo platform. It regularly reports on the horrors of the ongoing genocide in Gaza but then informs readers of why they absolutely must vote for the party responsible for carrying out the genocide. Yes, care about those poor slaughtered Palestinians but vote for those responsible for the slaughter to save your own interests. This is a schizophrenic platform. It sometimes seems MSNBC gave Medhi leave to form Zeteo to report on things the Democratic Party version of Fox news is not allowed to cover. But be sure to continue with go team Blue. Surely we’re just a bunch of dummies not to notice the disconnect.
Mehdi needs to stop being two-faced. His Journalism and his platform Zeteo are only causing confusion. It seems like he wants to have his cake and eat it too. On one hand, he garners public sympathy by appearing to oppose the GENOCIDE in GAZA, while on the other, he ensures that his sponsors in the Demoncrat party secure the votes of those dissatisfied with them. I would rather fight Fascist Trump with honor than beg Demoncrats to stop the GENOCIDE in GAZA.
A bleak assessment but not as far-fetched as I would like to believe. The Trump team of mayhem will kick in the moment he's coronated by his fellow inmates of the insane asylum. VOTE!
Would just be more than unbearable. I hope that will make voters who don't want an autocrat flock to their nearest voting venue and vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning.
Mehdi Hasan seems to adore talking about the extremes of the tragic world we live in, without being able to actually talk about the profound ethical and moral choices that these extremes force us to make. For example, Mehdi will repeatedly show us the extreme inhumanity of the genocide in Gaza, speaking about the horrors in graphic terms in one video or column after another. But he seems unable to talk about the profound moral and ethical difficulty any decent human being faces, when called upon to vote for the people who are committing that genocide through the provision of weapons to the killers. Instead, he repeatedly shows us the extremely disturbing prospects of a Trump presidency. But no decent human being could vote for Trump. Rather, notwithstanding the prospects Hasan describes, the decent human is still left with the problem of how to vote for the mass murderers of the Democratic Party. But that decent human has an alternative: reject the choice of monster vs monster and vote for another decent human being. Jill Stein comes to mind. Or Claudia de la Cruz. Or even Cornel West. We have the ability to affirm our commitment to humanity. I wish that Mehdi Hasan would make that clear.
I'm not sure why my disappointment in Mehdi's inability to address the moral question of voting for a genocide enabler would lead you to suggest that I stop reading his work. I'm a subscriber to Zeteo and I think that, on the whole, Mehdi Hasan is a good person, producing good work, and sharing contributions from other good people producing good work. If I didn't respect him, I wouldn't be disappointed. I'll keep reading him, and I'll keep urging him to deal directly with the contradiction I think he's facing: opposing genocide and voting for a genocidal leader.
I truly believe that the bigger issue is to keep democracy alive. It will be impossible with an autocrat - essentially jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. We have been called a democracy for a long time and yet there was slavery and still racism. Native Americans have suffered and still do. As a biracial American I vote Democrat and it is the lesser of the two evils.
We already live in an autocracy: our country is governed by a relatively small group of very wealthy people, who, for the most part, assure their own comfort above all other things. We have NEVER been a democracy, notwithstanding all the people who like to call what have by that name. I think you are keeping alive the autocracy, not democracy, when you vote for Harris. You're keeping alive the system that was started as one that sustained slavery. You're keeping alive the system that, within its first 50 years of existence, did its utmost to nearly eliminate the Native Americans. You're keeping alive a system that makes most voters powerless...most people powerless. And you're supporting the lesser evil of two autocrats, both of whom are happy to enable the mass murder of tens/hundreds of thousands of people. You're supporting an autocrat who, if she follows her boss's lead, will continue to bring us to the brink of a world war, increasing the military budget and answering every foreign policy question with death and destruction, whether that be through outright killing or economic sanctions. You will never have democracy in America until we collectively say no to the lesser of two evil autocrats.
Some of it for sure would come to pass, but he doesn’t need to invade Mexico, just ask and make it another colony of the United States and the min wage of every Mexican would increase dramatically and the Big Businesses might have a say as they just moved their businesses from China to Mexico for stability of their supply chains.
One should also remember that Mexico has a standing army of over 700,000 and a decent Air Force. Invading would result in mass casualties on both sides so it would be advisable to just ask them to join and become the 51st State. This will solve the border problem for DT also. DT doesn’t consider the Northern Border as a problem as he is just plain old racist white person.
If people vote for this moron, they deserve him with all his “weird” policies and maybe it is telling us where most of us stand on morality and Democracy.
It's kind of tragical irony seeing my German government being confronted with Mehdi and other journalists applying for asylum in Germany....
.... as people coming from the USA, our strongest transatlantic partner ;-) , the cradle of democracy, not a safe country of origin any longer after a second Trump term.
Mehdi, Why don't you focus on what alternative we have if not Trump or Kamala. Why giving free media time to monsters like Trump and Kamala? Did you not see how Kamala reacted to protestors in Michigan?
Put all your energy behind Jill Stein. Let's see if we can make an independent very powerful.
Conservative democrats, and there is plenty of them, will never go for Jill Stein. Most important is that we still have a democracy, the rest we have to work on.
I appreciate your concerns regarding the selection of Jill Stein. It is true that some Conservative party members may not support her, despite her commendable qualities and her advocacy for peace. However, please remember that our democracy remains intact, regardless of individual preferences or party lines.
We have maintained our democratic principles even during and after the tenure of Trump. Therefore, the notion that our democracy is at risk is unfounded and serves only to instill unnecessary fear.
As for my personal stance, I am responsible for my own decisions and values. I will continue to support a candidate who promotes peace and opposes genocide, rather than succumbing to baseless fears and illusions.
I appreciate your opinions. But just not conservatives, moderates as well. I believe many voters think it’s too late to rally around Jill Stein. She doesn’t have enough momentum, unfortunately. Trump and project 2025 are very dangerous. We can kiss democracy goodbye. Study project 2025.
I will be actively encouraging others to reconsider their support for Demoncrats and save their own souls. My stance is rooted in a deep commitment to ethical governance and the prevention of atrocities.
Trump has no power to do anything so the fear mongering of Demoncrats is not going to work. I am committed to fight Project 2025 and any initiatives that may lead to the harm of innocent people. It is better to fight for peace and justice within our own borders, rather than supporting actions that could result in the loss of innocent lives elsewhere.
I can’t imagine voting for someone co-responsible for a genocide. I will not have that on my conscience. I really don’t understand people who are against the genocide and for Harris.
Yes, a better option would be to let the US become a Christo-Fascist Theocracy. I'm really looking forward to my daughter losing all her rights, and being forced into either celibacy or reproductive slavery. It's going to be wonderful when we don't have to vote anymore, or learn anything inconvenient about our history. And seriously, who cares about anyone who isn't a white, hetero, cis-gender male. Trump hates Muslim people more than he hates Black people, so he'll make absolutely certain that the Palestinian people are wiped off the face of the earth so his son-in-crime Jared can have some prime coastal real estate. VP Harris is not co-responsible for genocide, and if you want any hope to bringing an end to our involvement with Israel you need to suck it up and vote for her.
Well said! To vote third party, seems extremely selfish. How could you live with yourself, when all Muslims are deported, Palestine completely gone and a handmaids tale agenda enforced in US?
At least I stood up for Palestine?? Then you have ask yourself, what good did that do?
She's VP. She can't easily go against her boss. She has no power at all. I don't expect her to be wonderful on Gaza - she might have done the usual American president thing where they're ok with limited genocide, but then they call a stop to it, like Ronnie did in '82, or I think even Biden did in 2021 or so ("we're out of runway here"). It's enough better to be worth it.
For the record, I've been a Gaza activist. I go to the local vigil most weeks, write to Joe and Kamala often, and called my MoC every couple days for a while until he flipped and supported a ceasefire. And donate to JVP and other groups.
That is laughably ridiculous. Jill Stein will never, ever get anywhere near the Oval Office. Get behind VP Harris or watch the camps go up.
No, we can't survive it. We can, at best, resist.
If GAZA can survive Israeli's terrorism for decades then Americans can easily survive a buffoon like Trump.
Thank you for laying it out. Harris-Walz are a long way from being perfect, too close to middle of the road. Which means they could jump either way in a fix. But faced with trump and his backers, Harris-Walz is the only option to my mind.
So, then, what is the decision to be made? Voting for Kamala is not a healthy option.
Your article lays out the facts without any analysis on what should be done. Perhaps that is intentional.
However, voting for Democrats right now, while they are implementing a genocide and attacking a number of countries alongside Israel is not a viable option, either.
So what then? Genuine question.
Harris Walz are not perfect but far better than poor Joe. I too support Joll Stein but she realistically cannot win. Everyone has cried wolf too many times with the most important election ever spin this time zt the age of 81 believe it - he should NEVER have been allowed to run at all. Dems stopped Bernie trump could have been prevented. I voted fir Greens forever byt I cannot survive a dictatorship and willing tobgive Harris a chance. Biden refuses to resign she has NO choice at this time except to do his policy. Read her book youvwill get a more clear picture. Both she and Walz would respond to pressure and she is not Netanyahu friendly. I heard give him a chance over and over-she isclower risk give her a chance
If the Demoncrats would have done good work and if they wouldn't have supported GENOCIDE then this wouldn't have become the most important election.
They did not and will not unless pushed but these 2 are maleable - read her book The Truths We Hold
It's clear you not only need glasses, but maybe a GPS for your brain too!
Joe Biden and his cabinet are foremost in sponsoring and aiding the GENOCIDE we are witnessing live.
That is true. But I don't think Trump would be better. Do you? He will not allow protest and he wants to wrap up in a bow the West Bank for Netanyahu. Much more than that I'm sure. I agree with the comment, and btw it is a fact a third party cannot win. Do what you think makes sense to you.
True but that is nit the case - right now Kamala better
She has also a better environmental track record.
Please pardon typos I fo not see very well
Her pro Israeli illegal settlement history suggests otherwise
The smart choice is voting for Harris/Walz, and hope for the best. I believe the ticket will be more progressive than Biden. She is vp under the Biden administration, so still bound to his agenda, and limited in what she can say or do, until she has the power.
Without a livable planet--especially for the most vulnerable--much of the world will look like Gaza does now. And even worse for many. "Drill, baby, drill," is a euphemism for screw everybody. There is more than one death trip to resist.
Save the humans now and we will worry about the future later. I won't support hypocrites who are are actively supporting and supplying weapons for the GENOCIDE.
You don’t know what will happen with Harris/Walz ticket. Reason be, Kamala is still vp under Biden.
Kamala will be a bigger GENOCIDE enabler than Biden. The people with common sense can see through this.
The people with common sense don't want an autocrat
There are autocrats who have not enabled or aided a GENOCIDE in the way the Demoncrats have. There is no proof that Trump, often labeled as a fascist, will become an autocrat. He didn't get the chance to do so during his term from 2016 to 2020, and he won't get the chance this time either. The point is to bring humiliation to those who enable GENOCIDE.
Just look at Harris’ record on Israel before she was VP. It belies any suggestion that she will be better than Biden. Her record speaks for itself.
Then don't
Thanks Mehdi for your critical thinking. I hope many people will not vote for the autocrat. Please realize that we have two choices. Pick one or none. Or vote 3rd party and waste your gas and time voting. 3rd party voters cannot win. That's just a fact
I'm glad everytime I get disillusioned with the Biden/Harris administration, you make a post as a gentle and kind reminder of the utter horrifying agendas on the horizon.
Perfect response. Thanks Mehdi! For your reminders and keep them coming!
I am reading this book called “How civil wars start: And how to stop them” by Barbara Walter. Based on the book it feels like we are doomed no matter what. If Trump wins, we are screwed as Mehdi has laid out. If Trump loses, then his supporters might turn to violence. He is an ego maniac who wouldn’t shy away from dog whistles encouraging his supporters to anoint him king no matter what. What a sad and sorry state we are in, sadly :(
This has started to happen in the U.k. Has anyone read project 2025 ?? Enough said.
This looks like propaganda for the most part. Having said that, we only have Democrats to blame for being in this horrible situation in the first place.
Everything he posted is verifiable. I don’t think that word you used means what you think it means. Typical troll post.
Every time someone says, "we survived" Trump's first term, I think about all the people who literally didn't survive!
I'm extremely unhappy with Harris's positions on many life-and-death issues, like Gaza, the border, policing, etc. I just realize that voting for "the lesser of two evils" will slow down the erosion of freedom and safety when a fascist movement could take power.
Jill Stein is not going to be President. Between the electoral college and our two-party system, presidential elections are sadly not a matter of popular will.
Voting for Jill Stein is not going to bring an end to American imperialism or the carceral state or increase anyone's freedom or safety in any way. To me, stopping fascism at the ballot box is still compatible with other acts of democracy to get closer to those goals.
Oh thank you so much ! For your post. This to me is what makes sense. I hope others will see the logic❤️
You are drunk on the Demoncrat kool aid!
It is more effective to fight fascism and injustice within our own borders rather than supporting hypocritical policies of Demoncrats that contribute to violence and suffering abroad. Demoncrats are equally or actually more responsible for the sufferings in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan and Palestine.
No, I'm really not! I just think the American electoral system is so deeply illegitimate and flawed that my vote is simply not an expression of my consent or my will. The presidential election comes down to some 10s of thousands of people in swing states so it doesn't really matter what the rest of us do anyway.
I keep recommending the book "The Constitutional Bind" by Aziz Rana because he does an incredible analysis of how explicitly the US Constitution was set up for minority/elite rule and is actually a "counter-revolutionary" and anti-popular will document.
Then he gets into an extraordinary deep-dive into how fetishization of the US Constitution has underpinned American imperialism from the beginning, including acquiescing to a view of presidential power that facilitates unaccountable and excessive discretion.
Within this context, I think that handwringing over the ethics of "rewarding" a candidate with your vote is missing the bigger picture.
Perfect response Anjali ❤️
If your vote doesn't matter in terms of who wins the election (because you don't live in one of the swing states and are not a part of the 10s of thousands whose votes matter), then it seems to me you are free to vote your conscience (or not vote at all). Given that you are opposed to much that the Democrats do, including the genocide, why would you use your (only symbolic) vote to show support for these evil people?
I don't think Rana's book (which I agree is excellent) has any bearing here. I think he'd say that, especially if you're not living in a place where you vote has any impact, you should feel free to vote your conscience.
I realize my two posts are disjointed, because I wasn't planning on writing a response and was trying to condense my points in the first one. I have voted third party or write-in in the last several presidential elections and plan to do so again because I have the "luxury" of "throwing my vote away."
Thanks. I understand now.
Unlike you, I live in a swing state, but still will be unable to vote for Harris, unless she disavows the genocide. I've mostly voted for third parties during my many decades of voting, but sometimes have voted for the Democrat (for example, I voted for Bill Clinton before his first term; I voted third party when ran a second time, following his abominable performance (three strikes you're out??? ). Here, I'm confronted by, perhaps, the most genocide of my lifetime (hard to say, given all the wars we've been engaged in). But at some point, we must, I think, be guided by a moral compass that has some meaning. Defending American 'democracy' (which doesn't exist) vs supporting the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people is not a difficult decision. We must support humanity, not false or imagined democracies.
I understand where you're coming from and appreciate you laying out your perspective.
People have different concepts of what voting in a US presidential elections means. Telling someone who says they won't vote for Harris that they want Trump to win and telling someone who would vote for her that they support genocide require similar assumptions about other people's subjective motivations and the strategy they've chosen in the electoral system.
I'm mostly trying to think about the genocide somewhat outside the context of the election because November is a long way away (and inauguration day is even further) so we need to continue putting pressure on the current administration, including Harris, to stop arming Israel immediately. Every day more people are dead, maimed, injured, losing family members, starving, getting infections. I think protesting at her events and demanding concrete action in exchange for considering voting for her are effective strategies for keeping the pressure on.
I am not interested in reading that book.
There is a genocide happening, and those responsible (Demoncrats) for enabling and executing it must be held accountable. Let Americans understand and empathize with what Gaza is experiencing right now by going through the same pain.
There is something very off with the Zeteo platform. It regularly reports on the horrors of the ongoing genocide in Gaza but then informs readers of why they absolutely must vote for the party responsible for carrying out the genocide. Yes, care about those poor slaughtered Palestinians but vote for those responsible for the slaughter to save your own interests. This is a schizophrenic platform. It sometimes seems MSNBC gave Medhi leave to form Zeteo to report on things the Democratic Party version of Fox news is not allowed to cover. But be sure to continue with go team Blue. Surely we’re just a bunch of dummies not to notice the disconnect.
Totally disagree
Absolutely agree!
Mehdi needs to stop being two-faced. His Journalism and his platform Zeteo are only causing confusion. It seems like he wants to have his cake and eat it too. On one hand, he garners public sympathy by appearing to oppose the GENOCIDE in GAZA, while on the other, he ensures that his sponsors in the Demoncrat party secure the votes of those dissatisfied with them. I would rather fight Fascist Trump with honor than beg Demoncrats to stop the GENOCIDE in GAZA.
It's still a free country at the moment you really don't need to read his nuanced thinking. You are still free to choose for now
Bravo. Exactly right.
A bleak assessment but not as far-fetched as I would like to believe. The Trump team of mayhem will kick in the moment he's coronated by his fellow inmates of the insane asylum. VOTE!
Would just be more than unbearable. I hope that will make voters who don't want an autocrat flock to their nearest voting venue and vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning.
Mehdi Hasan seems to adore talking about the extremes of the tragic world we live in, without being able to actually talk about the profound ethical and moral choices that these extremes force us to make. For example, Mehdi will repeatedly show us the extreme inhumanity of the genocide in Gaza, speaking about the horrors in graphic terms in one video or column after another. But he seems unable to talk about the profound moral and ethical difficulty any decent human being faces, when called upon to vote for the people who are committing that genocide through the provision of weapons to the killers. Instead, he repeatedly shows us the extremely disturbing prospects of a Trump presidency. But no decent human being could vote for Trump. Rather, notwithstanding the prospects Hasan describes, the decent human is still left with the problem of how to vote for the mass murderers of the Democratic Party. But that decent human has an alternative: reject the choice of monster vs monster and vote for another decent human being. Jill Stein comes to mind. Or Claudia de la Cruz. Or even Cornel West. We have the ability to affirm our commitment to humanity. I wish that Mehdi Hasan would make that clear.
You can always stop reading his posts can't you? He probably already knows where you are coming from though.
I'm not sure why my disappointment in Mehdi's inability to address the moral question of voting for a genocide enabler would lead you to suggest that I stop reading his work. I'm a subscriber to Zeteo and I think that, on the whole, Mehdi Hasan is a good person, producing good work, and sharing contributions from other good people producing good work. If I didn't respect him, I wouldn't be disappointed. I'll keep reading him, and I'll keep urging him to deal directly with the contradiction I think he's facing: opposing genocide and voting for a genocidal leader.
I truly believe that the bigger issue is to keep democracy alive. It will be impossible with an autocrat - essentially jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. We have been called a democracy for a long time and yet there was slavery and still racism. Native Americans have suffered and still do. As a biracial American I vote Democrat and it is the lesser of the two evils.
We already live in an autocracy: our country is governed by a relatively small group of very wealthy people, who, for the most part, assure their own comfort above all other things. We have NEVER been a democracy, notwithstanding all the people who like to call what have by that name. I think you are keeping alive the autocracy, not democracy, when you vote for Harris. You're keeping alive the system that was started as one that sustained slavery. You're keeping alive the system that, within its first 50 years of existence, did its utmost to nearly eliminate the Native Americans. You're keeping alive a system that makes most voters powerless...most people powerless. And you're supporting the lesser evil of two autocrats, both of whom are happy to enable the mass murder of tens/hundreds of thousands of people. You're supporting an autocrat who, if she follows her boss's lead, will continue to bring us to the brink of a world war, increasing the military budget and answering every foreign policy question with death and destruction, whether that be through outright killing or economic sanctions. You will never have democracy in America until we collectively say no to the lesser of two evil autocrats.
I disagree.
Some of it for sure would come to pass, but he doesn’t need to invade Mexico, just ask and make it another colony of the United States and the min wage of every Mexican would increase dramatically and the Big Businesses might have a say as they just moved their businesses from China to Mexico for stability of their supply chains.
One should also remember that Mexico has a standing army of over 700,000 and a decent Air Force. Invading would result in mass casualties on both sides so it would be advisable to just ask them to join and become the 51st State. This will solve the border problem for DT also. DT doesn’t consider the Northern Border as a problem as he is just plain old racist white person.
If people vote for this moron, they deserve him with all his “weird” policies and maybe it is telling us where most of us stand on morality and Democracy.
It's kind of tragical irony seeing my German government being confronted with Mehdi and other journalists applying for asylum in Germany....
.... as people coming from the USA, our strongest transatlantic partner ;-) , the cradle of democracy, not a safe country of origin any longer after a second Trump term.