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I like Bassem but he has to stop interrupting Mehdi . Neither can get out a full sentence.

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He can’t help it he probably has ADHD lol😋

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I thought Bassem interjected important information. It’s a matter of pacing the conversation I would say rather than Bassem interrupting per se.

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The story about rape has already been debunked by the electronic intifada, the Grayzone, the Intercept, and @zei_squirrel. Israel used rape and beheading babies to justify slaughtering and massacring Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank. Its fact and truth.

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I appreciate so much about Zeteo, especially as a source of info that doesn't get aired on the MSM .... but someone needs to analyze the entire pod to determine who interrupts the other more - Mehdi or Bassem. I'll bet it's Bassem. It's good to have freewheeling discussions but the constant interruption distracts from the important information you provide. Please listen to yourselves and then listen to each other more while having your freewheeling discussions.

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Agreed. I was getting frustrated with Mehdi interrupting Bassem, as he is Medhi's guest.

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I gather Mehdi was trying to head off digressions from happening while he was making point.

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Agree. For greater impact, need just a bit more space to allow each important point from the other to land. Love your work though you two!

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Brothers thanks, l love you guys doing something for oppressed Palestine, please have a discussion about Arab countries only lips service about Palestine people but reality is they are helping Israel to commit this crime

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Why are the two so baffled by Israel's media operations? The nonsensical noise, the complete erosion of credibility, believabilIty and truth is precisely the goal, right? When facts don't count for anything, you can do what you want. Same playbook Trump uses. So yeah, pointing out all the media fails, debunking all the BS is something you should be doing, but don't be surprised by the fact that you have to in the first place.

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Thank you both for everything you do! I'm surprised you didn't mention how they killed their own people ...gunfire crossfire, tank shellings at houses and cars and apache helicopters firing down at groups of people and fleeing cars. Also, when mentioning israeli hostages which is horrific we should also take the opportunity to mention the palestinian hostages and the mention there were 5,000 PRIOR to oct 7th including children many of who are abducted in the middle of the night in raids from their bed.

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Your guest Bassem , although factually correct, in an annoying to listen to in his delivery of facts, constantly interrupted Mehdi when he was trying to state important facts with frequently glib sounding sarcastic comments. I found him hard to listen to.Not everyone knows the details of what has been debunked about the October 7th massacre and might like to hear Mehdi’s clearly stated evidence. This was unfortunately not the case here. It appeared like a Fox commentary (but on the right side).

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Great episode. Love the 'Karen' remark. So true though. North American Media doesn't just lie by stating untrue facts, they also lie by omission. I've watched Global international here in Canada and then see the same report on Al Jazeera or DW News and their report has additional content which VERY CLEARLY changes the narrative. I fight constantly with family about what really happened there because all they are seeing is lies or incomplete stories. Infuriating. Frustrating.

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Oh My God From President Biden all the way to blinken to Neten yaho to galant - all are big huge lairs. And when their lies are out you cannot ask them to apologise nor question them nor prosecute them in USA or ICC or they even get elected back to run Your countries. How much more down US should reach till they understand what they are doing is wrong and unacceptable.

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Mehdi is such a liar and a fraudulent person!

We were promised an episode "in LA in shorts" the last episode with Bassem and now? Ever since that last episode all I could think about was Mehdi Hasan in shorts and a Hoodie and what do I get? Nothing, not even a Hoodie..

But in all seriousness, another great episode. I really enjoy the concept of this podcast and the way, they're talking about all the topics, they're covering.

Regarding the "believe women" thing, what Israel actually wants to say but can't is "believe Israel" and is using the sensible topic of rape to bully people into believing them!

The UN report had some problematic parts as well. In the summary they write about sexual violence committed by the Palestinian resistance groups, but didn't specify. And when you read the entire report, they explain what counts as sexual violence. For example, filming female soldiers in their pajamas with their GoPro cameras (which is inappropriate, dont get me wrong) is seen as sexual violence and they made it quite clear that there is no evidence of raped women, except people claiming others have been raped.

Shari Mendez, the woman who they talk about raised several 100k dollars with her now debunked claims about October 7 and made it pretty clear that her goal was to fundraise and start a media career off of this!

And using the threat of rape to manipulate the population us not that new. Here in Germany, when the Russians fought the Nazis inside Germany and liberated Germany, the Nazi governemnt told German women to "not let the Russians get you, they will rape you to death" so a lot of women committed suicide by jumping feom rooftops the moment Russian soldiers entered the city.

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Please shut this guest up. Every time Mehdi makes a point I want to hear he talks over it.

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Thank you for putting a good program together. I do understand that the program is titled "we are not kidding" all kidding aside it brings out and discusses very serious issues and less interruptions would make it better so that the thoughts are complete.

Good overall presentation, how much of a difference these programs would make, i wonder, but at least we are doing our part.

Thank you Mehdi, Bassem, and Azadeh for pushing folks in sane direction.

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Regarding whether these discussions make a difference, I saw a discussion between Gabor Maté and Angela Davis a couple weeks ago during which Maté asked Davis how she reconciles the knowledge that conversations such as theirs won't save a single life in Gaza. Her answer (I'm paraphrasing) was that one conversation, one act, one person rarely makes a difference, it's all about the cumulative result of collective effort -- something we struggle to understand in the heavily individualized "west".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-uWylemBM

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Thank you Tom for the link and as we do we keep on doing our part in this existential struggle of the Palestinians.

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hey Medhi where is the hoodi? lolz

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Indeed, if the only news you watched was MSNBC, you'd never know there was a war going on in Gaza.

MSNBC airs lengthy commercials about donating money for dogs but no ads for donating funds to families in Gaza.

Andrea Mitchell hosted Regev for weeks throwing him softballs and letting him spew lies.

MSNBC is complicit. No doubt. I assume they're trying to protect Biden--which means they are no better than Fox.

Terrific discussion, guys. Please keep playing the actual clips and audio. Really helps.

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The many moments in this that I’ll be clipping. Bass has learnt and educated the world in such a short amount of time. Now think everyone used this same mindset, how educated we could be.

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Good episode, but I think your guest Azadeh deserved more time.

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