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john g's avatar

I find it very frustrating that we highlight one event like this and call it a new era of violence in a country with regular mass shootings, where police murder people of color with impunity, and state violence is carried out regularly. It's not a new era of violence at all. It's just that we don't classify all the violence happening as violence. There were more stories about Charlie Kirk in the last 24 hours in mainstream press than every story about the US financing a genocide in Palestine over the last year. The US invades and overthrows leaders. It causes mass disruption and chaos in regions that lead to more mass death. The US murdered a million Iraqi human beings and threw an entire region into chaos for the last 20 years, causing unknown amounts of related deaths. This is a country of violence. Why is it some new era of violence just because someone famous was assassinated? We've had presidents assassinated. The atrocities committed in Vietnam because the us wanted to protect colonial interests involved setting babies on fire. The school of the Americas trained south American guerilla fighters to kill children with machetes. You bring up the years of lead in Italy? That goes back to the gladio operation with the leave behind networks after WWII.

the crimes if this empire are too numerous to count and that violence always comes home. What's new about this?

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James Baldwin, 1971: “What the world does to you, if the world does it to you long enough and effectively enough, you begin to do to yourself. You become a collaborator, an accomplice to your own murderers, because you believe the same things they do.”

“This is not America”- This has been America since 1776. If the legend holds true, it was Crispus Attucks, a Black man, who was the first to die for the revolution. And after it was over and the British were defeated, America was kind enough to let all the Blacks who were enslaved (Attucks was a free man) stay that way. Oh, but you don’t have to look way back into those “ancient” times. Charlie Kirk was a supporter of the insurrection of January 6th, 2021. “There are hundreds of peaceful people that went into the Capitol on January 6. They did not touch a police officer. They didn’t smash a window, but they have been charged federally for trespassing and called insurrectionists for the rest of their life.” Capitol police officers were assaulted, maimed and some died in the aftermath. But the phrase Charlie’s folks often use is “back the blue”, right?

“violence has no part in our political system”-straight capping! Out of our 46 presidents so far, four have been assassinated. John F. Kennedy, William McKinley, James Garfield and Abraham Lincoln, to be more precise. Ronald Reagan survived the assassination attempt by John Hinkley. Other presidents to also survive assassination attempts include Andrew Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Gerald Ford.

“This is not who we are”- Yes it is. Even when you look outside of presidents, any number of political figures have met their maker thanks to someone holding a gun. Civil rights activists like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and Fred Hampton. Senator Robert F Kennedy. Oh, and going way, way back, Secretary of Treasury Alexander Hamilton. (folks have seen the play, right?)

“Guns have no place in America”- knock it off. Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt last year and not a single Republican voted to support meaningful gun-reform legislation. Not a single one.

The killing of Charlie Kirk can rationally and morally be condemned. But the choice—and it is a choice—to simply look past the cosigning of violence he was responsible for is hypocritical. It’s more important to call these people out for what they were, regardless of the circumstances of their departure.

Charlie Kirk was a bigot.

Charlie Kirk was a misogynist.

Charlie Kirk was the real life version of the Christian Bale character in American Psycho.

Charlie Kirk’s American dream is not mine. It never has been. It never will be. I don’t aspire to the aesthetic of a Charlie Kirk. In his ideal world, someone who looks like me isn't supposed to be on equal footing with him.

Kirk’s legacy is one of unashamed racial vitriol—underneath which is an existential fear at the gradual “browning” of America, belligerence disguised as folksy talk, and, yes, policy murder. It is not completely unpredictable that he met his fate in a way that he decried was no big deal.

May he rest in peace, but damn—he could have at least cleaned up behind himself before he left.

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