I can’t get myself to do it. I can’t vote for her. I know, if Trump wins, it will be bad for us, we will have our own Netanyahu. But at least we can suffer in solidarity.
I can’t get myself to do it. I can’t vote for her. I know, if Trump wins, it will be bad for us, we will have our own Netanyahu. But at least we can suffer in solidarity.
John, I share your concern and outrage. Pope Francis urged that we vote for the least evil of the two main presidential candidates; stressing we have a moral obligation to vote. (I’m paraphrasing.) Not voting is a vote for convicted felon Trump, a wannabe fascist dictator for life, who intends to shred our constitution. Under Harris, our conversation would likely remain legal. Under Trump, it would likely lead to prison and torture; and a speedy final resolution (a quick genocide,) death or mass incarceration and torture of Palestinians and their supporters. Unless you’re a troll, I hope you will take the logical and righteous action, vote Democratic and urge others to do the same. W/Harris as president, there is hope her policies will be more compassionate. Under Trump, he will likely demand that Israel “finish the job,” ASAP. If you’re merely a troll, encouraging people not to vote in order to help the fascist GOP, for the sake of full disclosure, I’m strongly in favor of banning you, and others of your ilk, from this sacred space—where disinformation should not be permitted—our goal is to educate and strengthen our fragile, imperfect democracy; not undermine it.
Unfortunately, it's Harris/Walz who want to end free speech and who have stated (incorrectly) that the 1st amendment does not protect all speech - including hate speech and so-called misinformation. This has become a democratic talking point. Very ironic since it is incorrect disinformation. Also both sides are allowing Israel to "finish the job." Harris has just lied that that is their intention, but it's obvious that "Greater Israel" is their goal. I disagree with that goal, however, I think going about it by dropping 2000 lb bombs on refugees in tents to make profits for the neocons who invest in arms and are now supporting Harris, is worse. In this sense Trump may be the ironic and scary lesser of evils. The democrats are promising us endless war and full censorship...plus a continued bad economy. In NY I am voting for Jill Stein. I would like to see the Green Party get 5% of the vote so they can get federal funding. The only states that really matter are the swing states. I hope voters there are not duped by personality and symbolism.
Robert: Is that really the way you think? Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll who should be banned if you have your power? I live in California so I have the luxury of voting third party knowing Kamala will be the winner anyway.
Both candidates are beholden to special interests.
In the case of Trump, I think he is just oblivious to the rats riding in on his ship. They will placate and marginalize him. They are smarter than him. They are project 2025, as well as international oligarchs of the darkest kind.
But, don’t fool yourself, the powers that be behind the democrats are not going to stray from the script either. Look elsewhere for your values to be realized in law.
I can’t get myself to do it. I can’t vote for her. I know, if Trump wins, it will be bad for us, we will have our own Netanyahu. But at least we can suffer in solidarity.
There is time before voting for president to scare the dems into doing something. This race is so close, uncommitted electorals lead the way.
Will it work to raise up as DEMS or independents to make a No Vote movement?
No comment, No vote.
John, I share your concern and outrage. Pope Francis urged that we vote for the least evil of the two main presidential candidates; stressing we have a moral obligation to vote. (I’m paraphrasing.) Not voting is a vote for convicted felon Trump, a wannabe fascist dictator for life, who intends to shred our constitution. Under Harris, our conversation would likely remain legal. Under Trump, it would likely lead to prison and torture; and a speedy final resolution (a quick genocide,) death or mass incarceration and torture of Palestinians and their supporters. Unless you’re a troll, I hope you will take the logical and righteous action, vote Democratic and urge others to do the same. W/Harris as president, there is hope her policies will be more compassionate. Under Trump, he will likely demand that Israel “finish the job,” ASAP. If you’re merely a troll, encouraging people not to vote in order to help the fascist GOP, for the sake of full disclosure, I’m strongly in favor of banning you, and others of your ilk, from this sacred space—where disinformation should not be permitted—our goal is to educate and strengthen our fragile, imperfect democracy; not undermine it.
Unfortunately, it's Harris/Walz who want to end free speech and who have stated (incorrectly) that the 1st amendment does not protect all speech - including hate speech and so-called misinformation. This has become a democratic talking point. Very ironic since it is incorrect disinformation. Also both sides are allowing Israel to "finish the job." Harris has just lied that that is their intention, but it's obvious that "Greater Israel" is their goal. I disagree with that goal, however, I think going about it by dropping 2000 lb bombs on refugees in tents to make profits for the neocons who invest in arms and are now supporting Harris, is worse. In this sense Trump may be the ironic and scary lesser of evils. The democrats are promising us endless war and full censorship...plus a continued bad economy. In NY I am voting for Jill Stein. I would like to see the Green Party get 5% of the vote so they can get federal funding. The only states that really matter are the swing states. I hope voters there are not duped by personality and symbolism.
Have you heard any of the candidates say, "Palestine has a right to defend itself?"
Robert: Is that really the way you think? Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll who should be banned if you have your power? I live in California so I have the luxury of voting third party knowing Kamala will be the winner anyway.
Both candidates are beholden to special interests.
In the case of Trump, I think he is just oblivious to the rats riding in on his ship. They will placate and marginalize him. They are smarter than him. They are project 2025, as well as international oligarchs of the darkest kind.
But, don’t fool yourself, the powers that be behind the democrats are not going to stray from the script either. Look elsewhere for your values to be realized in law.
Onward.