Thanks Mehdi for what I believe to be an extremely accurate assessment of the current situation and the only solution that will give us time to continue.
Yes! And in a perfect world, Stein would win and end the genocide by calling Bibi - but alas, this is not reality - instead of the anti-zionist protesters, of whom I am one, saying they will vote Stein as a protest vote, we must all unite and vote for Harris to stop the wretched fascist maga monster Trump from getting into the WH!
Respectfully, Jill stein is a grifter who is funded by republicans to tank democrats’ chances. She creeps up every 4-8 years to run in the presidential election instead of trying to run in local elections, which she’d have a much better chance of winning and implementing her agenda. There’s a reason Trump complimented Stein. She can say whatever she wants because she’ll never have to follow through with any promises. She is a big part of why Trump won the so called blue wall in 2016. I just hope we’ve learned our lesson since then. It seems there are a lot less Stein supporters this time around, which is good.
Actually your point is very well taken. Although I am lured by her anti-genocide stance, I have heard this before - that she is a grifter - even from a friend who was working on the Cornell West campaign who knows Stein - and of course you are right - Republicans did help her get on the ballot in several of their states - and yes, Trump does says positive things about her which is already a red flag - he knows, like in 2016, she can be the spoiler candidate as she was which helped him win - and Hillary lose - it’s so frustrating - I don’t like Harris position on Israel - she has no “balls” to call Bibi out and to call for an arms embargo - and who really knows what Stein will do - she has no experience in DC - and yes AOC was right - down ballot positions would be much more appropriate for Stein - and Butch ware - who came out of nowhere - has some interesting ideas - his support of Muslims, his background as a Muslim and African History professor - but he is better off running for governor of California in the next gubernatorial election as he mentioned - or even perhaps a more local position like city council member ( I think is more appropriate) - So, yea, you are right but I’m not pleased with Harris on Israel or her foreign policy - it’s not developed and more or less like BIden’s. Domestically she is of course better than Trump - women's reproductive rights, voter repression, the economy, etc. This is all so scary - I might have to succumb to the duopoly and vote Harris - thank you much for reminding me about that dark side of Stein.
I appreciate the comment. Much agreement :) I hope we can stop this fascist from taking over and then press the Harris admin to be harder on Israel and better for Gazans. Bibi isn’t making the ceasefire negotiations easier imo. I think he’s sabotaging them in hopes that Trump is elected so he can “level” Gaza once and for all, bc he knows Trump will let him
They are. If they cared about progressive voters. They wouldn't be petitioning with War criminals like Chaineys. Kamla would have made a distinction between and her and Bidens Blank Cheque to Netanyahu. Instead DNC care more about their rich AIPAC and other associated donors than the progressive vote. Perhaps oh I don't know commiting war crimes should be the Red line for DNC. Pathetic. DNC are pathetic. Wants to stop a fascist, yet providing unlimited support to a war criminal in Netanyahu. DNC should go and find voters who like their policy. Rather then trying to guilt trip progressives to vote for the lesser evil.
Bro stfu Liz and Dick Cheney aren’t fucking supporting Kamala because they agree with her policies. They endorsed her because Donald Trump is fucking insane and dangerous. That’s the responsible thing for ANYONE of any political party to do in this trying moment. Do you not understand that people vote based on different reasons, and that our elections aren’t decided by progressives way out west?. They’re decided by mostly moderate voters in the Midwest and sunbelt. The smart thing is to move to the center for a general election and THEN govern more progressively. Take several seats. You’re not the center of the universe ✌🏼
Yeah Buddy. That agrument isn't going to get progressive voters. Happy not to be centre of DNC world. If they only pay lip service to not taking big business donor money like AIPAC, Pharma and Military industrial complex. Btw Trump is a symptom of both parties especially DNC failing working class people. There is a reason why people are voting for a Guy who wants to break the system. Trillions of dollars in stupid wars. Yet not enough for healthcare, better paid teachers, infrastructure. There will always be another Trump in those conditions. So rather than putting a band aid on Trump this election. why doesn't DNC change and help not create another Trump. ✌️
As for Medhi Hassan, talking head: please have the decency to point people to Harris. There will be no hope for Muslims, Palestinians or anyone else if Trump wins.
We are at a dangerous crossroad- yes unequivocally, Trump is worse than Harris on all fronts -domestic and foreign -
But as a person who is part of the anti-Zionist pro Palestinian community- protesting the genocide in Gaza, Stein’s position aligns w mine on Israel-
That said I do have serious reservations in voting for her , even though I’m in a blue state - I feel the elections are too close and stakes too high to risk a Trump victory- so I might just vote Harris - and if she is in the WH, then I can work with organizers to push her to end the genocide -at least try - but ok pessimistic
I beg of you to vote for Kamala. The Palestinians have no chance nor will we if Trump wins. The Republicans are in the process of stealing this election right now. Has anyone heard about a recent Musk speech warning US Americans to get ready for financial hardship WTF!! What does he know that we don’t know? About how successful Trump will be in stealing this election
Whenever I see the Steves Schmidt of the world inveighing against Trump, all I hear them saying is "Sowing was awesome but let me tell you, I don't like this reaping business one bit, no sir."
I've been teaching and writing about Nazi Germany for forty years. Many corporate interests chose to "get along" and hope for the best. Of course, some did profit, big time, as we know. It's probably more common than not.
What worries me most are the people who vote for Trump. What on earth do they see in him? His mental decline could not be more obvious, yet this is their preferred leader. Talk about delusional, God help us all. I guess they prefer a man who oozes vulgarity and threats to a real statesmanlike person. I don't mean Harris is statesmanlike, no, she and Trump are both unfit in my opinion
*Thank you,* Mehdi and Steve. In these times and, i.e., in these crazy-making final days leading to the election, discussions like this are not only vital to help educate and sway concerning the existential threat of Trump and fascism, but also a "place" for some of us to be reminded that we are not alone. So many of us, i.e. those of us living in MAGA/deep red areas, are now estranged from colleagues, people whom we thought once were friends, from family for standing up for our (aspiring) democracy (and trying to mitigate the repercussions, the fallout on people around the world, as well). <3
If it's Donald, it's the beginning of a Trump dynasty. Trump will first get rid of JD, then install Don Jr. Then it'll be Ivanca [sp?] then Maybe Barron, but it's Trump forever. If that's what America wants, fine. I'll smell the house fires from far away.
always liked steve schmidt when i first heard his warnings early on nicole wallace program[who i dont watch now,manly for absense of gaza reporting,similar to rachel maddow and now perhaps morning joe as well-although will hang on that at least until the election] on MSBNC which showed a depth of clarity of the threat of trump[although like mehdi, i think we have a vast gap in political policy between us]but in the threat of trump he does remain sincere. Steve has a interesting way of talking which is careful and placed which works well, he seems a little hesitate here as perhaps many conservatives do, on leftish media...perhaps another one could be done on gaza, i think that would [as mehdi said]be a little more confrontational as think he is for israel but would be interested if he thought that bibi was taking israel down the right path at the mo
OK. Legit Question. Zero wars started under Trump. That's why he has some very very small credibility on this. Biden started two wars. Kamla going to continue it. Trump is a awful candidate sure. But I think most people are willing to take that 2% or 3% small chance that Trump will end the Genocide in Gaza. If DNC don't want Trump in office. Biden Administration SHOULD NOT have given Netanyahu a blank cheque. Even Bernie's message isn't going to work for Kamla.
I am a Democrat and will be Democrat in future, if Democrats change for good. Break the corrupt two-party system. RepubliCONS and DemocRATS are two evil sides of the same coin. Please DO NOT vote for Republican Trump or Democrat Harris. Holy scriptures urge us to do the right thing, not choose the lesser of two evils. God controls the outcome. We must vote a third-party candidate like Jill Stein even if it results in Trump's win. He may win anyways, kamala may lose like Hillary. America is crumbling because both parties are enslaved to corporate donors, silencing public opinion, suppressing free speech on college campuses, supporting Israel's Genocide, and sending billions overseas for destruction instead of using the same for improving our daily lives, our domestic needs like healthcare, education, and infrastructure. We are having issues because we are short-sighted and want immediate results. Change doesn't happen overnight. Moses didn't freed Israelites overnight. It took over 200 years of enslavement and oppression before Moses led them to freedom. We must pave the way for future now by breaking the corrupt two-party system. Imagine Jill Stein with 36%, Republicans/Democrats 32% each, making Jill win all electoral votes. This can happen only if we begin the change now and bring Jill from 2% to winning presidency. The young generation is fed-up with corrupt two-party system and chances look bright for America in future with 3rd party.
I would like nothing more than Stein, the anti-zionist, who has been calling for an end to the genocide in Gaza now for for months, to win - but I'm also terrified if Trump wins - he will be even worse to the Muslims than Harris - he plans to deport them and arrest the protesters - as vile as he is, he will also be much more supportive of Bibi, and even suggested Bibi attack the nuclear fields in Iran - Harris is terrible I know- another aipac captured politician who continues to support the zionist pariah state of Israel unconditionally - I see that you are urging us to all vote Stein - how can we make it happen for Stein to get 36%? If you have a plan, I'm down with you.
“There is no group in this country that is more vulnerable to a Trump administration than Muslim-Americans", said his invited guest.
I respect Mehdi, but after watching a livestreamed genocide for a year and carrying the weight of complicity, do you think I give a #### what Trump might supposedly do to me?
What, is he going to drop a 2000lb bomb on my suburban house? Or send an armed drone to snipe at me or my kids when they step outside? If so, our lives aren't any more valuable than countless people we are responsible for killing that way.
I voted Stein because the Democratic party must be purged of its rot now, and maybe in 2028 a humane candidate will win the primaries. If Trump burns down the country before then as you fear, then too bad. Blame Harris or yourself. I won't blame Stein, I will still blame myself for the genocide that happened under my watch.
Remember if you survive Trump, a Trump 2.0-like person like Elon or worse will come next, and the fact that you accepted genocide as a necessary evil and voted for Harris may be a reason for that reckoning.
If I felt any more strongly about it, I might have self immolated like Aaron Bushnell except Islam forbids it. But if Trump wins and I get burned, that is fine and I hope to accept my fate with dignity.
Donald Trump isn’t racist—he just knows how to appeal to voters who may lack an understanding of the economy. He puts on a show, and unfortunately, it resonates with many. Pairing up with Elon Musk, another figure who seems more focused on making headlines than running his company, only adds to the spectacle. The reality is, the average American often has little awareness of what foreign policy really means. This lack of understanding plays a role in why we see Muslim countries struggle—without the right leadership in place, they falter. It’s time for a deeper understanding of global issues, both in the West and in Muslim nations, to create real change.
Both of your voices are invaluable and incredibly important to this moment!
Thanks Mehdi for what I believe to be an extremely accurate assessment of the current situation and the only solution that will give us time to continue.
There’s a reason Bibi wants Trump to win. The genociders want Trump to win.
Yes! And in a perfect world, Stein would win and end the genocide by calling Bibi - but alas, this is not reality - instead of the anti-zionist protesters, of whom I am one, saying they will vote Stein as a protest vote, we must all unite and vote for Harris to stop the wretched fascist maga monster Trump from getting into the WH!
Respectfully, Jill stein is a grifter who is funded by republicans to tank democrats’ chances. She creeps up every 4-8 years to run in the presidential election instead of trying to run in local elections, which she’d have a much better chance of winning and implementing her agenda. There’s a reason Trump complimented Stein. She can say whatever she wants because she’ll never have to follow through with any promises. She is a big part of why Trump won the so called blue wall in 2016. I just hope we’ve learned our lesson since then. It seems there are a lot less Stein supporters this time around, which is good.
Actually your point is very well taken. Although I am lured by her anti-genocide stance, I have heard this before - that she is a grifter - even from a friend who was working on the Cornell West campaign who knows Stein - and of course you are right - Republicans did help her get on the ballot in several of their states - and yes, Trump does says positive things about her which is already a red flag - he knows, like in 2016, she can be the spoiler candidate as she was which helped him win - and Hillary lose - it’s so frustrating - I don’t like Harris position on Israel - she has no “balls” to call Bibi out and to call for an arms embargo - and who really knows what Stein will do - she has no experience in DC - and yes AOC was right - down ballot positions would be much more appropriate for Stein - and Butch ware - who came out of nowhere - has some interesting ideas - his support of Muslims, his background as a Muslim and African History professor - but he is better off running for governor of California in the next gubernatorial election as he mentioned - or even perhaps a more local position like city council member ( I think is more appropriate) - So, yea, you are right but I’m not pleased with Harris on Israel or her foreign policy - it’s not developed and more or less like BIden’s. Domestically she is of course better than Trump - women's reproductive rights, voter repression, the economy, etc. This is all so scary - I might have to succumb to the duopoly and vote Harris - thank you much for reminding me about that dark side of Stein.
I appreciate the comment. Much agreement :) I hope we can stop this fascist from taking over and then press the Harris admin to be harder on Israel and better for Gazans. Bibi isn’t making the ceasefire negotiations easier imo. I think he’s sabotaging them in hopes that Trump is elected so he can “level” Gaza once and for all, bc he knows Trump will let him
About Jill Stein-
Oh those ties to Trump and Russia:
https://bluevirginia.us/2024/10/video-new-dnc-ad-highlights-david-duke-donald-trump-and-vladimir-putins-support-for-jill-stein?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
The only thing that Stein will do is possible give Trump the presidency, as she did in 2016.
DNC are doing a great Job to help Trump win.
No lol
They are. If they cared about progressive voters. They wouldn't be petitioning with War criminals like Chaineys. Kamla would have made a distinction between and her and Bidens Blank Cheque to Netanyahu. Instead DNC care more about their rich AIPAC and other associated donors than the progressive vote. Perhaps oh I don't know commiting war crimes should be the Red line for DNC. Pathetic. DNC are pathetic. Wants to stop a fascist, yet providing unlimited support to a war criminal in Netanyahu. DNC should go and find voters who like their policy. Rather then trying to guilt trip progressives to vote for the lesser evil.
Bro stfu Liz and Dick Cheney aren’t fucking supporting Kamala because they agree with her policies. They endorsed her because Donald Trump is fucking insane and dangerous. That’s the responsible thing for ANYONE of any political party to do in this trying moment. Do you not understand that people vote based on different reasons, and that our elections aren’t decided by progressives way out west?. They’re decided by mostly moderate voters in the Midwest and sunbelt. The smart thing is to move to the center for a general election and THEN govern more progressively. Take several seats. You’re not the center of the universe ✌🏼
Yeah Buddy. That agrument isn't going to get progressive voters. Happy not to be centre of DNC world. If they only pay lip service to not taking big business donor money like AIPAC, Pharma and Military industrial complex. Btw Trump is a symptom of both parties especially DNC failing working class people. There is a reason why people are voting for a Guy who wants to break the system. Trillions of dollars in stupid wars. Yet not enough for healthcare, better paid teachers, infrastructure. There will always be another Trump in those conditions. So rather than putting a band aid on Trump this election. why doesn't DNC change and help not create another Trump. ✌️
As for Medhi Hassan, talking head: please have the decency to point people to Harris. There will be no hope for Muslims, Palestinians or anyone else if Trump wins.
exactly!
Medhi did just that: in Harris is the continuation of an open forum...In Trump
there is good reason to fear that the door of diverse discussion is crippled,
if not shut.
We are at a dangerous crossroad- yes unequivocally, Trump is worse than Harris on all fronts -domestic and foreign -
But as a person who is part of the anti-Zionist pro Palestinian community- protesting the genocide in Gaza, Stein’s position aligns w mine on Israel-
That said I do have serious reservations in voting for her , even though I’m in a blue state - I feel the elections are too close and stakes too high to risk a Trump victory- so I might just vote Harris - and if she is in the WH, then I can work with organizers to push her to end the genocide -at least try - but ok pessimistic
I beg of you to vote for Kamala. The Palestinians have no chance nor will we if Trump wins. The Republicans are in the process of stealing this election right now. Has anyone heard about a recent Musk speech warning US Americans to get ready for financial hardship WTF!! What does he know that we don’t know? About how successful Trump will be in stealing this election
Whenever I see the Steves Schmidt of the world inveighing against Trump, all I hear them saying is "Sowing was awesome but let me tell you, I don't like this reaping business one bit, no sir."
I've been teaching and writing about Nazi Germany for forty years. Many corporate interests chose to "get along" and hope for the best. Of course, some did profit, big time, as we know. It's probably more common than not.
Read: How American media incited genocide https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/10/27/how-american-media-incited
What worries me most are the people who vote for Trump. What on earth do they see in him? His mental decline could not be more obvious, yet this is their preferred leader. Talk about delusional, God help us all. I guess they prefer a man who oozes vulgarity and threats to a real statesmanlike person. I don't mean Harris is statesmanlike, no, she and Trump are both unfit in my opinion
*Thank you,* Mehdi and Steve. In these times and, i.e., in these crazy-making final days leading to the election, discussions like this are not only vital to help educate and sway concerning the existential threat of Trump and fascism, but also a "place" for some of us to be reminded that we are not alone. So many of us, i.e. those of us living in MAGA/deep red areas, are now estranged from colleagues, people whom we thought once were friends, from family for standing up for our (aspiring) democracy (and trying to mitigate the repercussions, the fallout on people around the world, as well). <3
If it's Donald, it's the beginning of a Trump dynasty. Trump will first get rid of JD, then install Don Jr. Then it'll be Ivanca [sp?] then Maybe Barron, but it's Trump forever. If that's what America wants, fine. I'll smell the house fires from far away.
terrifying if true
always liked steve schmidt when i first heard his warnings early on nicole wallace program[who i dont watch now,manly for absense of gaza reporting,similar to rachel maddow and now perhaps morning joe as well-although will hang on that at least until the election] on MSBNC which showed a depth of clarity of the threat of trump[although like mehdi, i think we have a vast gap in political policy between us]but in the threat of trump he does remain sincere. Steve has a interesting way of talking which is careful and placed which works well, he seems a little hesitate here as perhaps many conservatives do, on leftish media...perhaps another one could be done on gaza, i think that would [as mehdi said]be a little more confrontational as think he is for israel but would be interested if he thought that bibi was taking israel down the right path at the mo
BiBi will take Israel all the way down along with every Palestinian if Trump wins.
OK. Legit Question. Zero wars started under Trump. That's why he has some very very small credibility on this. Biden started two wars. Kamla going to continue it. Trump is a awful candidate sure. But I think most people are willing to take that 2% or 3% small chance that Trump will end the Genocide in Gaza. If DNC don't want Trump in office. Biden Administration SHOULD NOT have given Netanyahu a blank cheque. Even Bernie's message isn't going to work for Kamla.
I am a Democrat and will be Democrat in future, if Democrats change for good. Break the corrupt two-party system. RepubliCONS and DemocRATS are two evil sides of the same coin. Please DO NOT vote for Republican Trump or Democrat Harris. Holy scriptures urge us to do the right thing, not choose the lesser of two evils. God controls the outcome. We must vote a third-party candidate like Jill Stein even if it results in Trump's win. He may win anyways, kamala may lose like Hillary. America is crumbling because both parties are enslaved to corporate donors, silencing public opinion, suppressing free speech on college campuses, supporting Israel's Genocide, and sending billions overseas for destruction instead of using the same for improving our daily lives, our domestic needs like healthcare, education, and infrastructure. We are having issues because we are short-sighted and want immediate results. Change doesn't happen overnight. Moses didn't freed Israelites overnight. It took over 200 years of enslavement and oppression before Moses led them to freedom. We must pave the way for future now by breaking the corrupt two-party system. Imagine Jill Stein with 36%, Republicans/Democrats 32% each, making Jill win all electoral votes. This can happen only if we begin the change now and bring Jill from 2% to winning presidency. The young generation is fed-up with corrupt two-party system and chances look bright for America in future with 3rd party.
I would like nothing more than Stein, the anti-zionist, who has been calling for an end to the genocide in Gaza now for for months, to win - but I'm also terrified if Trump wins - he will be even worse to the Muslims than Harris - he plans to deport them and arrest the protesters - as vile as he is, he will also be much more supportive of Bibi, and even suggested Bibi attack the nuclear fields in Iran - Harris is terrible I know- another aipac captured politician who continues to support the zionist pariah state of Israel unconditionally - I see that you are urging us to all vote Stein - how can we make it happen for Stein to get 36%? If you have a plan, I'm down with you.
I don’t believe Jill Steim has ANY power to do anything good for USA
“There is no group in this country that is more vulnerable to a Trump administration than Muslim-Americans", said his invited guest.
I respect Mehdi, but after watching a livestreamed genocide for a year and carrying the weight of complicity, do you think I give a #### what Trump might supposedly do to me?
What, is he going to drop a 2000lb bomb on my suburban house? Or send an armed drone to snipe at me or my kids when they step outside? If so, our lives aren't any more valuable than countless people we are responsible for killing that way.
I voted Stein because the Democratic party must be purged of its rot now, and maybe in 2028 a humane candidate will win the primaries. If Trump burns down the country before then as you fear, then too bad. Blame Harris or yourself. I won't blame Stein, I will still blame myself for the genocide that happened under my watch.
Remember if you survive Trump, a Trump 2.0-like person like Elon or worse will come next, and the fact that you accepted genocide as a necessary evil and voted for Harris may be a reason for that reckoning.
If I felt any more strongly about it, I might have self immolated like Aaron Bushnell except Islam forbids it. But if Trump wins and I get burned, that is fine and I hope to accept my fate with dignity.
Donald Trump isn’t racist—he just knows how to appeal to voters who may lack an understanding of the economy. He puts on a show, and unfortunately, it resonates with many. Pairing up with Elon Musk, another figure who seems more focused on making headlines than running his company, only adds to the spectacle. The reality is, the average American often has little awareness of what foreign policy really means. This lack of understanding plays a role in why we see Muslim countries struggle—without the right leadership in place, they falter. It’s time for a deeper understanding of global issues, both in the West and in Muslim nations, to create real change.
I agree with some of what you said. However Trump is most definitely a fascist and therefore a racist.
I just love that Steve Schmidt said 'inshallah'