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Lynne Resch's avatar

Oh please. 70 million Americans aren't fascists OR deplorables. It was the Democrats to lose, and lose they did. "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right." – Bernie Sanders

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GT's avatar

Both are true. The Democrats have abandoned the working class, even explicitly, and Kamala was left to run on “not being Trump.” Plus there are plenty of racist, misogynistic people out there. Some of them are my close relatives who are also Christian, however they refer to that. But Bernie is right, and has been for years and years.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Those people would have voted Trump anyway. However the 10 million Dems who decided not to vote, that was due to Kamala’s decision that earning votes wasn’t necessary, she ran on, “I’m not Trump”, bad strategy. I wonder what would have happened if she ran on peace, and didn’t parade the Cheney’s around?

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Yes, they are. And I’m a Sanders supporter. I know it’s hard for morons like you to deal with multifactorial causation (look it up) but you are to be excoriated and ignored.

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Sherri Yeager's avatar

Yes, they are. They delight in Trump's ignorance, cruelty, and vulgarity. It's a sickness.

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Jazzme's avatar

This old man is whistling in the wind. Retire Bernie RIP

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Nick795's avatar

70 million Americans were sick of PC/DEI/CRT that directly targeted them for discrimination. That is why they were willing to vote for any Tea-Party/MAGA/serial con-man who was happy to offend those who used offense as a tool of extortion. The behavior of Rep voters and candidates is explicitly a mirror image satire of what they object to in the Dems of the last 30+ years.

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Sherri Yeager's avatar

Oh please. It's the Democratic Party that abandoned the working class? Are you serious? Too bad you are so uninformed that you don't know anything about the worker/family-friendly achievements of the Biden/Harris administration - some of which will come to full fruition juyst in time for the idiot Trump to take credit for them. Meanwhile, Trump & Co. never even mention working people, while they exist solely to serve the filthy rich as they corruptly enrich themselves. Most people voted for Trump because they saw themselves in the mirror Trump held up to them: a reflection of willful ignorance, misogyny, bigotries, and xenophobia. Any voters with genuine economic grievances who voted for Trump & Vance have their collective heads so far up the place where the "sun don't shine" I'm surprised they can breathe. Democrats aren't perfect, but there are many elected Democrats who work to address economic inequality. There are absolutely no Republicans who do so. Bernie Sanders is a one-trick-pony who does not take ingrained historical misogyny, xenophobia, racism, and homophobia seriously. If he thinks Democrats are the problem, perhaps he should experience what's it's like to caucus with fact-rejecting, climate change denying, economic royalists in the Republican Party.

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Lynne Resch's avatar

Talk about anger issues. " ....a reflection of willful ignorance, misogyny, bigotries, and xenophobia. Any voters with genuine economic grievances who voted for Trump & Vance have their collective heads so far up the place where the "sun don't shine" I'm surprised they can breathe." Your love and empathy for 75 million of your fellow Americans is so typically Democrat.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

I have no respect, love or empathy for anyone who just voted to destroy the human future via carbon, among other crimes. Nor do I have any for you, you vile cunt.

Yep, not PC here. Man, woman, trans—any color, any ethnicity: if you didn’t wholeheartedly, wallet-emptyingly support Harris, you are a worthless, future-destroying cunt—C-U-N-T-cunt.

You have children? You just helped kill them, possibly literally. Because bullshit.

When everyone figures this out, you’ll get your just reward.

Thoughts’n’prayers! 😘😘😘.

Remember: Sanders supporter here.

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Lynne Resch's avatar

oooo... the new elitist Democrats are showing their true colors! BTW, this cunt canceled her Democrat registration after 30+ years of being a card carrying Democrat. I am now a registered Independent. My parents, long deceased, were life-long Democrats. Teamsters. One had a 6th grad education, the other high school only. Dad delivered Twinkies and supported a family, owned a small home, two cars in the garage, a cottage on the lake up North, sent a kid through college and going to the doctor or the dentist was never an issue. Dad retired with a pension and Mom and Dad celebrated with a trip to Hawaii.... Wealthy? Not at all, but we had what we needed.....all in the fabled 1960s back when the Democrats really were the party of the working class and not just the parroted shallow platitudes that we hear today.

So this "worthless, future-destroying cunt—C-U-N-T-cunt" is fighting for the dream of my parents.... the dream that is all of ours.... a living wage no matter our birth lottery outcome.... to be able to put braces on our kids teeth and send them to college..... it "was" the American dream before the Democrats made a Faustian deal with the devil, aka corporate greed.

How's your stock portfolio doing? Pretty good I bet. Be sure to thank Joe Biden who also gave you 4 more years of Trump.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Sanders supporter here, cunt. Look me up on the FEC individual contributor site. About at Chomsky on the spectrum.

No dream left, cunt, because we will likely pass methane failsafe by 2029. You and your ilk just killed your children. That’s why you and all like you are cunts.

Remember that feeling you had when you held your newborn? You managed to squelch it so you could help put a civilization-ending fascist in power.

I’m sure you’ll be lining up to deep-throat him as soon as possible, too. You’re two inches from it now: your essential stupidity, selfishness and cowardice will kick in. Maybe you’ll get multiple orgasms from now on when you recall how you betrayed your children unto their likely premature deaths.

It’ll work out well for you!

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Lynne Resch's avatar

Oh.... and ps. Thank you for showing the world who the new Democrats really are.

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Lynne Resch's avatar

But I'll leave you with this for your dreams.... Joe Rogan supported Bernie Sanders in 2020. The DNC did not and kicked him to the curb to bleed out.

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Lynne Resch's avatar

I think you should go lie down with some very heavy medication before you hurt yourself.

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PK Winter's avatar

You've failed to mention the genocide in Palestine. The murdering of innocent children and other innocent people is a line many will not cross.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

So bring on worse.

I get caring about Palestine. 100%. I get Biden didn’t do nearly enough. The false equivalence that he and Trump would have done exactly the same or that the details of temporary ceasefires, aid convoys, using arms transfers to limit scope of war, trying to secure some Palestinian state, even building the disastrous pier, didn’t make a difference. Biden and Bibi don’t have as good a relationship as Trump and Bibi and that should be really important for anyone who pretends to genuinely care.

The egotistical bullshit of saying I won’t vote for Harris because they didn’t do enough is not voting your conscience but voting your ego. The former is recognizing the nuance and choosing to mitigate harm. The latter is letting the very people you claim to support suffer even more just so you can posture as having done some noble deed.

Oh, and it was 89F on the Cross-Bronx Expressway at 530. After sundown. In early November. I know carbon is a small detail.

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Sarah Olson's avatar

Someone has an ego, and it isn’t the pro Palestine voters. Way to minimize a Genocide, your privilege is shining.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

So painfully stupid. The genocide is as bad as it is—horrible. The question is what actions should follow.

But you know. You’re not really stupid—just in it for the posturing.

Somehow lots of American Arabs and Muslims voted for Harris. Are you pissing all over them? Yes, honey, you are. 😘

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Sarah Olson's avatar

😂 Oh Dougie, name calling, very mature honey. Those of us who have actually been fighting for Palestine for a year don’t care what you privileged Dems have to say. All you have is “ Trump is worse” 10 million Dems sat out this election for a reason, Dems are an Oligarchy run by AIPAC. Grow up.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Sure, keep telling yourself that. These morons helped bring in worse. Good job!

You couldn’t give a flying fuck about the Palestinians. Or maybe I was wrong: maybe you are just crushingly stupid.

I’m not a Democrat. I’m about Chomsky on the spectrum. And he urged voting against the worst.

Eg: https://www.ft.com/content/8a401957-91cc-4ffd-8e4c-2d8422a64fcd

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Ari Prashaad's avatar

you’re defending a genocidal candidate from another genocidal candidate just so you can have your privileged life be a little more privileged, if the option is death either way than it’s better that you don’t get your choice to win. so this is a big middle finger to your rationalization for choosing kamala. And for making us real leftists choose your garbage of a candidate.

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Nick795's avatar

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20241106-dearborn-somber-watch-party-arab-americans-turn-backs-harris-open-door-trump

Voting Harris/Biden would be a 100% probability of continued genocide. They demonstrated that there was no line that would cause them to stop supplying the weapons used to commit the genocide.

Trump is nobody's friend, and trustworthy for no-one, even Israel and Bibi. There is much more chance of Trump demanding that Israel serve America's interests, than there is of any Democrat Presidential candidate doing so.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Even if true, which it isn’t, um, carbon?

Oh, right: your kids’ll get that in the ass. You’ll probably slime through on your belly, congratulating yourself for doing Bibi and Trump’s bidding.

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Nick795's avatar

Trump doesn't have policies only backers. What we can see now is the man in the room when he makes decisions is Musk. Musk with all his hype and BS needs to sell electric cars. Expect that competing imports will be restricted, while incentives to buy US made electric vehicles, plus the infrastructure to use them, will increase. Musk won't benefit from lowering gas prices, or anything else that interferes with selling his product. This is special interest lobbying as ever just picture book obvious for a kindergarten in the oval office.

Sanders would certainly be better, but he wasn't available for anyone to vote for in the presidential election.

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Ron's avatar

And, for that reason, I didn't cross it. The current version of the Democratic party has abandoned international law, human rights, and the working class. The Republican party has become a cult. It has absolutely NO interest in serving the best interests of the country.

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

Your title alone makes me want to laugh brother Mehdi. Your title implies that we already had a democracy and we're about to lose it! Yes you are being naive and quite frankly more like delusional! where the heck was the democracy under the Democratic presidency when students couldn't even demonstrate at universities to express their opinions? Where was democracy when the elected representatives in each state completely ignored their constituents and supported genocide blinded with unlimited bribes from AIPAC? If democracy can be bought with money it's no longer a democracy and that's what we were living under and we probably will continue to witness under a trump administration. At least I know what to expect from Trump and know how to approach him and influence him going forward!

As for the Zionist Democrats there were unfazed, unhinged and completely out of control of the White House!

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

No problem. Yes I realized after I posted but your form does not allow anyone to edit their comments!.. nevertheless, that doesn't give an excuse to someone to throw a personal insult in my face

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Leslie's avatar

Thanks for clarifying.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Hey Global Trade, you really are a nitwit! You think you know how to control or navigate Trump? Whatever democracy existed, it’s gone. Trump will take power with immunity, and a court willing to do his bidding. His DOJ will be his cudgel to use against all enemies perceived and real; not a democratically functioning legal system. The only place you’re navigating yourself to is on your way to a jail cell if you even try to fight back. Nothing will be reported in the media, and any posts to social media or X will be blocked for not meeting the standards of their social media policies. It’s already happening and Trump isn’t even in power.

And if you think what Israel did before Trump was a genocide. You have no idea what’s in store. We killed 500k civilians in our Iraq war, 40k Palestinians is nothing amd not a genocide! That said, let’s see how you feel about Biden’s so called non- genocide, when Trump gives him free rein on January 21st. After an initial cease fire of good will, then the fun begins. I’ll wager Netanyahu’s mass deportation of Palestinians from both Gaza and The West Bank will take place with full force, during rhetoric same time Trump begins his.

Congratulations! You got the fascist government you deserve!

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

Before you start throwing personal insults and accusations I voted for Cornel West and I made it clear from the very beginning that he was my choice but it was like speaking to deaf ears among the Arab and Muslim communities.

Try to have some manners when you communicate. It's not too difficult!

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

A vote for that moron as a protest vote, is the same as voting for Trump.

I apologize for the name calling, but it’s ironic how you care about Palestinians, while helping to hand power the same guy who gave Netanyahu Carte Blanche to implement the most draconian laws in the occupied territories (leading to this attack by Hamas), and who’s son in law is a big supporter of the settler movement.

Interesting enough, I never heard any Muslims complain about the Taliban implementing the most draconian women’s laws on the planet; they can neither be seen or heard; they’re just baby vessels who can’t even leave the house, get educated past the sixth grade, or decide whom to marry.

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

I'm a Palestinian and I have every right to express what I accept and what I don't accept; I don't need your input or your guidance or the guidance of any Arab or Muslim countries who didn't lift a finger for Palestine!

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Agreed. The Palestinians, like the Jews (I am one), have always been the world’s doormat. No one cares for either, and expect the Arab world to ignore your plight. Even Iran will back off helping them, now that Putin and Trump will be working together to reshape Europe and the Middle East.

It’s a shame, cousins can’t get along and work out our differences. And I don’t want to hear that Zionism is colonialism. Israel existed before Palestinians or Islam ever existed. We were always forced out, but never fully left. We fought along with Muslims during the first Crusades in the Middle Ages, and have been there during all of the Ottoman Empire.

For me, the only solution is a two state solution. Yet, any chances of that are gone. Trump will let Netanyahu wreak havoc, and you have no one to blame but yourselves; because the biggest winners in Trump’s re-election, are Trump, American fascism, Putin and Netanyahu; who’s political career was saved!

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

I agree with you Zionism is not colonialism; it is Pure Satanism! Israel is an illegal State and should have never been allowed to exist in the heart of the Muslim and Arab world! even today you criminals think you are European so WTF are you doing in the Middle East? pack your crap and go to hell!

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Mehdi didn’t write this, dipshit.

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GT's avatar

Hard to argue with this.

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Sarel Van Der Walt's avatar

"If democracy can be bought with money it's no longer a democracy". Its time to create new names to distinguish it from the theoritical/utopian ideal of democracy. Maybe a Moneycracy? Or Dollacracy?

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Robert Spottswood, M.A.'s avatar

Historically, the US has been overthrowing democracies and installing dictator ships since 1953 and Iran.

By now it is probably overdue for us to take a turn trying to cope with this phenomenon.

We have many examples from other countries of how to resist a US imposed dictatorship. Let us study them and start organizing from scratch..

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GT's avatar

And before that in the 1920s militarily supporting United Fruit in Guatemala. Killing Sandino. Installation of Pinochet in Chile, a murderer who killed thousands AND assassinated a govt member IN WASHINGTON DC. Invaded and took over Dominican Republic from 1916 to 1922 and soon after, supported Trujillo, another murderous dictator. There is already much blood on our hands that will never be forgotten.

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Ali Asad Malik's avatar

I totally disagree with you on this "It means a free hand to weaken democracies around the world by abandoning America’s commitment to defending free governments and protecting the weak from the strong." US never stood up for democracy and protecting the weak, she stands for her commercial and or security interests only. Look at Middle East countries, US supports Arab monarchs and Zionist apartheid state. US has always supported generals in Pakistan, and continues to do so till this day.

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GT's avatar

This. Well said, Ali.

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Yogi's avatar
Nov 7Edited

All makes sense to me. Voters threw a "walking molotov cocktail" at the system because

- No real primary, Harris was imposed on the electorate by all knowing rich elites

- Lots of unpopular policy positions when compared to polling data. Lots of lip service and how this is possible in a democracy is beyond me. Love of big money, wars, corrupt campaign laws, corporate impunity, inflation, housing, tax code etc etc

- Harris could not complete the simplest of tasks. Just saying "I am not Biden"

- Harris is a wealthy DC creature. When she speaks any real person can tell.

- Harris will not get 70 million votes. Biden got 81 million in 2020. The party got sloppy.

- I can go on but I will stop there.

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FAHEEM SYED's avatar

Bottom line is - DemocRATS failed to listen to the voters and got what they deserved for taking voters for granted, for silencing public opinion, suppressing free speech on college campuses, and supporting Israel's Genocide. DemocRATS and RepubliCONS are two evil sides of the same coin and this is a sad reality which will continue until an alternative is formed to save America. The next cycle, People will be fed-up with Trump and may vote for DemocRATS and the same cycle continues. Heads or tails, you end up with the same corrupt coin.

Mehdi should lead and work with 3rd party and independent candidates to establish his own coalition of revolutionary party to fix the problem.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“Why Trump Prevailed?”

Stop with your nonsense. Biden’s policies were the best of any president in this century. There is one main cause for Trump’s rise from the ashes: Social engineering!

Last election, social media has checks and balances. Misinformation and disinformation campaigns were blocked. This time they were not. Last time, socially responsible people ran Twitter, this time, misinformation and disinformation campaigns were a feature, not a bug. I read an article by. Mathew Crawford today. His post on “social engineering” of this election was blocked because it didn’t meet the social media conduct policy. It’s already started; you won’t be hearing anything consequential anymore. Just more division to keep people distracted from the truth; which will be whatever Trump and the new oligarchs say it is!

Furthermore, if you think the Wappo’s decision to not endorse Harris was a last minute decision, think again. Bezos hired two Murdock protégés a year before the non-endorsement, one who resigned before even working there, due to his part in a UK illegal wiretapping scandal; no read flags there, but proves their was pressure on the MSM during the Biden administration by conservatives who support fascism.

The bottom line: this election was never going to end well for democrats. If trans kids and blaming Biden for the Trans kids, and prison trans issue is what keeps Americans up at night, then these people don’t deserve democracy, because they have no idea what it means.

More women have died due to the new anti-abortion laws, than and trans surgeries for kids (who don’t get them before being around 18, BTW), and in prison; yet women don’t seem to matter as much than having to live in a world with trans people.

This campaign began before Biden even took office. And the corporate and media elites were part of the plan. Some willingly, others saw the writing on the wall. So now that America has chosen, it will pay a price; at first, but authoritarianism will be embedded in our society; and even if Democrats ever take the Whitehouse again, they will have little power. The Judicial system will be stacked with Trump judges, and SCOTUS will have gone full fascist. Any future democratic administration will be doomed to failure before it even begins.

When you already have two judges that side with the insurrectionists on J6th, and a president even more corrupt than the courts, with essentially a license to kill, there is no turning back. They will now solidify their power for the next several decades, while the powers that be keep this country divided, and playing the blame game, instead of dealing with the root causes.

At first, Americans will be happy. The day Trump takes power, miraculously, price gouging will end. Trump will take credit, and America will rejoice. Netanyahu will agree to a cease fire, and Trump will be a miracle worker in the eyes of all his adoring fans, and those who were skeptical. However, when Trump’s new budget for 2025 is passed into law, there will be austerity measures that destroy the lives of so many. A shock Doctrine will ensure and because of all the misinformation and lies, no one will be able to make sense of it.

So congratulations America, you just signed your own death certificate and wrote your own obituary! There is no coming back from this. So you will get the government you wanted: good and hard!

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Patricia Jaeger's avatar

Please stop the day after quarterbacking and pointing the finger of blame. First, it's totally nonproductive. Second, it's not Biden's fault that a majority of voters chose Trump. Hard as it may be for some to believe, but Biden is not in control of what voters think or believe. It's the fault of the voters, those who aren't involved in politics and who chose not to learn what's really going on; those who don't vote; those who like the thought of destroying our institutions; those who have no problem getting behind misogyny and racism, who believe their hatred of immigrants and the LGBTQ+ communities is warranted; those who don't care about anyone or anything except themselves; those who have highly visible platforms but don't consistently use those platforms to help change these views; those who want to live like Archie Bunker and not have anything change in their own personal universe and blame others for their petty grievances. I'm a retired university professor and spent too many hours in meetings discussing problems but then realizing that most people don't really want to do the hard work to solve the problems. Talk is easy, action is hard. It would be helpful if this platform spent more time discussing specific actions to help change the hatred, and in honestly recognizing that real change takes a very long time and it's a battle of inches forward.

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Steve Woodward's avatar

There are also many, well-informed and steeped in politics, who refused to participate in genocide.

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Murray Smart's avatar

The working class is not being served by the Republican party. They are being used by the Republican party. They are being used to get votes based on real and imagined grievances and then after their votes are tallied - forgotten. Remember Trump and Musk and Bezos and the rest ......... are all BILLIONAIRE ELITES! And who is Trump going to favor the most? BILLIONAIRE ELITES! Trickle down is NOT going to come for the masses. The masses are going to get crumbs, if that. (The Trump Tax Plan favors the WEALTHY and NOT the rest of the 95% of Americans - even right wing economists point that out. And the cost of Trump Tariffs will be passed on down to the working class and poor. Business has already said that.) America is living in a new Gilded Age, with the top 1% taking more and more of what there is (and with it power and control) and sharing less and less with the rest - and skillfully avoiding any accountability for doing it - by keeping the focus else where. Plus, a climate that will be broken down further with the bulk of the suffering falling on the working class, the poor, and those unable to avoid what is coming (drought, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, poisoned air, water, land....) - which in the end no one will be able to avoid - even the billionaires with all their money and power and influence - which will not save them.

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Jibran Baig's avatar

Perhaps the Democratic party should first stand up for Democracy before expecting the American people to do so. Since 2016 Democratic party has rigged primaries and this time around completely side step it and played a role of King Maker for a candidate that didn't survive the first round of primaries the last time she ran in. At least Trump was the clear choice out of Republican primaries. Just like Trump made Republican party move further to the right, Democrats needed to let Bernie move Democrat party further to the left and they would have had the support in 2016, 2020 and 2024. However, can't do that if you want to hang about with neocons and please your Oligarch bosses. The fact is there is no Democracy any more in USA, it is an Oligarchy with both parties having Facist tendencies. A choice between Republicans and Democrats, is a choice between Bigots and Hypocrites.

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Leslie's avatar

Now Trump will give you Dictatorship. Makes no sense.

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Antizionistic's avatar

We lost our democracy to Zionists a while ago.

Netanyahu won't hear any words asking for restraint while we keep backing genocide?

How pathetic.

Rabid Zionists will both destroy Israel and the United States. Maybe Trump will give Israel more rope to hang itself, then once a real war breaks out Trump will decide he doesn't want to get involved. We will just have to wait and see.

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Antizionistic's avatar

If we had a proper functioning democracy, Bernie Sanders wouldn't have had the nomination stolen from him and he would have likely defeated Trump. But Bernie wasn't a rabid Zionist.

Jamal Bowman and others would have naturally won office too.

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Leslie's avatar

And if we didn't have a white supremacy aar the very formation of this country this would not have been the scenario. People of color had to fight for anything they got, and make comprises along the way. Its so easy not to be a part of that struggle. We can't have this easy come easy go mindset. Maybe others without the actual knowledge of living here for generations can and obviously do.

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TheGlobe Trade's avatar

InShaAllah

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Ghulam Memon's avatar

I am more and more convinced that democracy doesn’t work. People don’t know what is good for them and for the country. If that 50.9% majority had bothered to just sit for 30 minutes and think what Donald Trump would mean for this country they would not have voted for him. So, Lincoln’s idea that there is wisdom is crowds was naive and incorrect. The alternative in the form of monarchy and autocracy is not great either. But, what we have doesn’t work. Sigh!

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Kristi Brennan's avatar

This is technically and practically an oligarchy not democracy. The state (government and military entities and actions) exists to ptotect and serve the interests of an economic elite, Which includes donors/lobbies (e.g. AIPAC, medical.pharma, gun, etc), financial behemouths (e.g. black rock) , military industrial complex, billionaire individuals, etc. The purpose of the voting process is to keep the population under control - pretend we have some democractic power, pretend that legitimacy lies with the citizenry. It is much easier and more effective to control and coerce a population though maintaining the illusion. The distribution of wealth and power is insanely disproportionate and getting worse. The oligarchs continue to bleed the ordinary and poor. e.g. Black Rock is the biggest landlord in the world. Concentration of wealth and power - oligarchy - Inevitable in late stage capitalism.

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Ghulam Memon's avatar

That is a very good description of our current state. Is that the fate of all capitalistic democracies? Like you said, this is what happens in late-stage capitalism. So, essentially, all capitalistic democracies will arrive where we are today :(

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Kristi Brennan's avatar

I am no expert, but I think that the dynamic of concentrating wealth and resulting unequal distribution of wealth, in ever widening gaps....would be inevitable in the dynamics of the capitalist system. And that oligarchy in government/state institutions would also be inevitable. Even if the US hadn't accelerated that dynamic with Citizens United, wealth still influences political power in every historical context I can think of. I don't know what is next. Again, disclaimer I am no expert. But lots of experts have probably researched, thought about, written about it.

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Ali Asad Malik's avatar

I think this was more of a retaliatory/reactionary vote against Biden/Harris regime than a vote for Trump.

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Ghulam Memon's avatar

I agree. But essentially the baser instinct of retaliation overpowered the long term view of what is good for the country and for the public. And that is my point that democracy failed us because a majority chose to go with their baser instinct

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Leslie's avatar

Their ego and not the greater good. How does that make them any better than Trump.

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Vernon James Schubel's avatar

I agree with most of this but I think that one reason for the increase in Trump voters among Latinos is due to the conversion of many Latinos to evangelical forms of Christianity and even Christian nationalism.

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Diana J's avatar

There were no choices

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KSJ's avatar

This is an embarrassingly naive contribution to such a thoughtful publication. Trump got the same vote total he received in 2020. Harris lost 13 million votes in 2024 that went to Biden in 2020. Harris lost this race. Trump won nothing...again.

Harris lost for a great many reasons, most importantly because she ran a 'Republican-light' triangulation campaign that validated false Republican premises (mythical border crises, for example) by adopting them. She lost by offering weak and under-communicated economic proposals riddled with means-testing. She lost by literally hugging the daughter of a hated Republican war criminal. The Democratic campaign jettisoned it's base in favor of the dream of winning over the mythical Republican suburban voter...again. The Democratic campaign was burned again by the incompetence of it's consultant class...again. Strategists who worked on the 2024 Democratic campaign should never work in politics again.

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