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Cinco's avatar

Tragic that it's just that easy to give prisoners something that's preferable to the daily warzone of the yard and cellblock.

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Regina Islas's avatar

Tragic because they should be paid wages that reflect the value of the contribution and risk? Easy to give? I think education might be 'easy to give' and as to "preferable to the yard, cellblock" etc, firefighting has DIGNITY and value to be certain, but ease? . I would like to see many more life affirming opportunities, for people who are incarcerated. Your sarcasm misses the mark entirely-.

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Cinco's avatar

Giving EVERYONE back their dignity at the same time should be ’easy’ of course. I am by no means letting the system off the hook because they camouflaged rank exploitation as ”here’s a chance to give back” for a handful. ”I want to tear it down, brick by hypocritical brick”.

Thanks for challenging me. My cryptic/indecipherable yelling into the void usually just gets ignored.

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Cinco's avatar

I’m sorry, I have the worst ADHD and I have been trying to explain what I was getting at for the part hour and started over three times. I wasn’t being sarcastic, and I agree with you. Just with a ton of cognitive dissonance. Like, I am happy for them because they’re having a better time, but also sad and infuriated because it’s as if they were given the choice of getting jabbed with a hot poker every five minutes until the end of time or doing possibly lethal slave labour, and I come to realise that their overall predicament is so fucking grim that they’re (seemingly) happy and grateful and enjoying the work, not just doing whatever they have to to avoid actual torture. It’s hard to process.

I saw a dude on the news on Al Jazeera today. He did time and joined the fire camp, got out, got a job as a firefighter and got promoted to captain. He started his own program to help advocate for the guys in the camps and get them jobs after getting out and it seemed really wholesome, but at at the end when pay and working conditions came up he was like ”you have to remember, the work is voluntary”. Disappointing. Prisoners’ and workers’ rights are really important to me but my brain is too broken to make a coherent point, so if any of this seems naive, sarcastic, flippant or privileged, I sincerely apologise.

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