Ask yourself why we have an entire Republican Party, including their presidential nominee in Putin’s pocket?
When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me.
It comes down to strategic interests. The reason we can’t control our Allie’s (not just Israel, we have the same issues with the Saudi’s), is the fact that “countries h…
Ask yourself why we have an entire Republican Party, including their presidential nominee in Putin’s pocket?
When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me.
It comes down to strategic interests. The reason we can’t control our Allie’s (not just Israel, we have the same issues with the Saudi’s), is the fact that “countries have no friends, only interests.”
Our commitment to a Israel is due to the fact that Israel is part of a wider security apparatus in the region; military and intelligence, that all share a common interest, controlling and reducing Iran’s aggression, power and proxies in the region.
"When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me"
Asking and answering his own question :)
"It comes down to strategic interests."
We are yet to learn what "security apparatus" Israel provide us (the USA) that is worth so many Billion a year and the political cost that we pay to shield this genocidal regime in the UN.
And would we need this "security apparatus" if we were not so complicit in their crimes against humanity.
"When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me"
Oh please, they aren’t a genocidal regime. They’ve committed acts of genocide after being brutally attacked by a TERRORIST REGIME! And what regime in the ME isn’t genocidal? Every regime in the ME has committed acts of genocide.
Where’s your outrage in Yemen? Iran, the Saudi Arabia and UAE have killed more people than Israel, against other Muslims: 150k by bombing, and famine has killed another 275k people. In addition, in the last nine years over 4.5 million people have been displaced. So again, where’s your outrage of a genocide that has been going on for a decade?
Or the 500k killed by Assad in Syria during the Arab Spring: millions displaced and even more dying of starvation and disease.
And how about the Sudan? Eight million displaced and 14,500 killed since December alone!
Or how about the ethnic cleansing of Armenians taking place in Azerbaijan? 100,400 ethnic Armenians, representing 99% of the remaining population of Nagorno-Karabakh, fled by the end of September, last year. Tens of thousands killed and even more wounded.
So don’t talk about genocidal regimes, unless you’re willing to admit that terror and destruction is caused by all parties. Hamas treats the Palestinians under their rule with an iron fist. NGO’s and journalists alike live in fear when working in Gaza. And not just because of the Israeli’s. Hamas disappears people and tortures them to death.
So wake up from your perennial stupor of ignorance. It’s the Middle East; we can either continue to argue about the past, or find a solution to the future.
And no one wins this argument because all it leads to is more death, destruction and chaos.
Whataboutism? Please! I’m calling out your hypocrisy, ignorance and biases. It’s about being Jewish and your hatred of Jews. Otherwise, you’d acknowledge the other regimes are far worse. Yet you won’t even acknowledge the actual genocides taking place in all the wonderful Arab and Muslim countries in the region. Or their treatment under Muslim monarchies and dictatorships.
How are Jews treated in every other Arab state? Oh that’s right, they’ve been driven out and forced into ghettos. Yet, 2.5 million Palestinians live in Israel; living side by side with their fellow Jewish citizens.
Get a grip, you don’t even understand the word “preemptive”. What a joke!
A line straight out of AIPAC playbook, I can see you have done your homework. For clarity, I have nothing against Jews, it is the Zionist who have become Zayo NOT-Z that I hate.
"Otherwise, you’d acknowledge the other regimes are far worse"
As much as I despise the Arab monarchs/dictators which they all pretty much are in power due to our own backing of those regimes, I honestly can't think of any of them to be as bad and genocidal as the Zionist regime. Perhaps Saudis are the next worst regime that I can think of. Needless to say, you keep referring to every one of those atrocities as "genocide" yet only the Zionist regime has been found of that crime so while you peddle on your own projection, I go more by what the international law and organization have identified.
"How are Jews treated in every other Arab state?"
Well, I don't know, We have not seen any reports of killing and genocide of Jews in any of those nations, have we? I know the second largest Jewish community in ME is in Iran and they do have a representative in their parliament.
I’m done debating, and I despise AIPAC. So I’ll leave you with some links to human rights organizations in regard to genocides taking place in Yemen, Sudan, Syria and Azerbaijan (Armenians).
By the way, I’m glad you mentioned the “one” Jewish representative in Iran’s Parliament. As though their elections are fair, and Iran is a democracy (it’s called propaganda). Too funny…:)
At last, something in common, so lets join hands and words in calling
1776 - Independence from England tyranny
2024 - Independence from Zionist/AIPAC tyranny
"As though their elections are fair, and Iran is a democracy (it’s called propaganda). Too funny…:)"
I didn't claim it to be fair or democratic. it is just as sham as it is in Israel, although arguable more people that are under the Ayatolah rule have rights to vote than those under the Zionist rule so maybe it is more democratic than the Zionist State.
How are elections a sham in Israel? The elections aren’t rigged like in Iran, where only approved candidates can run for office. This is how I now your understanding of Israel is distorted and twisted.
And we know Israel’s elections aren’t rigged because they allow the tin-foil hat crack pots (religious fanatics and settlers) to hold office.
In Iran, the only people allowed to hold office are the religious fanatics. So there’s that!…:)
"And we know Israel’s elections aren’t rigged because they allow the tin-foil hat crack pots (religious fanatics and settlers) to hold office."
And how is that different than the religious fanatics.
I also didn't lost on me when you ignored the fact that the Zionist Israel is ruling over millions of people who do not have the right to vote. Such situation does not exist in Iran.
If you say so! It’s honestly not worth the effort to correct you.
That said, we’d both be better off by stopping this nonsense, since the real tragedy is every time violence or attacks take place, the religious wing-nuts on both sides get stronger, while the rest of the population is paralyzed by fear, making it far more difficult for a two state solution to materialize.
This should be the focus of reasonable factions on both sides. That said, my instincts suggest you aren’t interested in a two state solution; just a fever dream that Israel will be annihilated. I hope I’m wrong because it will never happen without all sides being annihilated.
Ask yourself why we have an entire Republican Party, including their presidential nominee in Putin’s pocket?
When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me.
It comes down to strategic interests. The reason we can’t control our Allie’s (not just Israel, we have the same issues with the Saudi’s), is the fact that “countries have no friends, only interests.”
Our commitment to a Israel is due to the fact that Israel is part of a wider security apparatus in the region; military and intelligence, that all share a common interest, controlling and reducing Iran’s aggression, power and proxies in the region.
That’s the short answer…:)
"When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me"
Asking and answering his own question :)
"It comes down to strategic interests."
We are yet to learn what "security apparatus" Israel provide us (the USA) that is worth so many Billion a year and the political cost that we pay to shield this genocidal regime in the UN.
And would we need this "security apparatus" if we were not so complicit in their crimes against humanity.
"When you can answer that question, feel free to get back to me"
Oh please, they aren’t a genocidal regime. They’ve committed acts of genocide after being brutally attacked by a TERRORIST REGIME! And what regime in the ME isn’t genocidal? Every regime in the ME has committed acts of genocide.
Where’s your outrage in Yemen? Iran, the Saudi Arabia and UAE have killed more people than Israel, against other Muslims: 150k by bombing, and famine has killed another 275k people. In addition, in the last nine years over 4.5 million people have been displaced. So again, where’s your outrage of a genocide that has been going on for a decade?
Or the 500k killed by Assad in Syria during the Arab Spring: millions displaced and even more dying of starvation and disease.
And how about the Sudan? Eight million displaced and 14,500 killed since December alone!
Or how about the ethnic cleansing of Armenians taking place in Azerbaijan? 100,400 ethnic Armenians, representing 99% of the remaining population of Nagorno-Karabakh, fled by the end of September, last year. Tens of thousands killed and even more wounded.
So don’t talk about genocidal regimes, unless you’re willing to admit that terror and destruction is caused by all parties. Hamas treats the Palestinians under their rule with an iron fist. NGO’s and journalists alike live in fear when working in Gaza. And not just because of the Israeli’s. Hamas disappears people and tortures them to death.
So wake up from your perennial stupor of ignorance. It’s the Middle East; we can either continue to argue about the past, or find a solution to the future.
And no one wins this argument because all it leads to is more death, destruction and chaos.
"They’ve committed acts of genocide after being brutally attacked by a TERRORIST REGIME"
That makes them a genocidal regime.
Again you ask and answer your own question.
And your Whataboutism has not been lost on me.
Whataboutism? Please! I’m calling out your hypocrisy, ignorance and biases. It’s about being Jewish and your hatred of Jews. Otherwise, you’d acknowledge the other regimes are far worse. Yet you won’t even acknowledge the actual genocides taking place in all the wonderful Arab and Muslim countries in the region. Or their treatment under Muslim monarchies and dictatorships.
How are Jews treated in every other Arab state? Oh that’s right, they’ve been driven out and forced into ghettos. Yet, 2.5 million Palestinians live in Israel; living side by side with their fellow Jewish citizens.
Get a grip, you don’t even understand the word “preemptive”. What a joke!
"It’s about being Jewish and your hatred of Jews"
A line straight out of AIPAC playbook, I can see you have done your homework. For clarity, I have nothing against Jews, it is the Zionist who have become Zayo NOT-Z that I hate.
"Otherwise, you’d acknowledge the other regimes are far worse"
As much as I despise the Arab monarchs/dictators which they all pretty much are in power due to our own backing of those regimes, I honestly can't think of any of them to be as bad and genocidal as the Zionist regime. Perhaps Saudis are the next worst regime that I can think of. Needless to say, you keep referring to every one of those atrocities as "genocide" yet only the Zionist regime has been found of that crime so while you peddle on your own projection, I go more by what the international law and organization have identified.
"How are Jews treated in every other Arab state?"
Well, I don't know, We have not seen any reports of killing and genocide of Jews in any of those nations, have we? I know the second largest Jewish community in ME is in Iran and they do have a representative in their parliament.
I’m done debating, and I despise AIPAC. So I’ll leave you with some links to human rights organizations in regard to genocides taking place in Yemen, Sudan, Syria and Azerbaijan (Armenians).
By the way, I’m glad you mentioned the “one” Jewish representative in Iran’s Parliament. As though their elections are fair, and Iran is a democracy (it’s called propaganda). Too funny…:)
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/yemen-genocide-emergency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_genocide
https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/syria
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw4dk2kzy5wo
" and I despise AIPAC"
At last, something in common, so lets join hands and words in calling
1776 - Independence from England tyranny
2024 - Independence from Zionist/AIPAC tyranny
"As though their elections are fair, and Iran is a democracy (it’s called propaganda). Too funny…:)"
I didn't claim it to be fair or democratic. it is just as sham as it is in Israel, although arguable more people that are under the Ayatolah rule have rights to vote than those under the Zionist rule so maybe it is more democratic than the Zionist State.
How are elections a sham in Israel? The elections aren’t rigged like in Iran, where only approved candidates can run for office. This is how I now your understanding of Israel is distorted and twisted.
And we know Israel’s elections aren’t rigged because they allow the tin-foil hat crack pots (religious fanatics and settlers) to hold office.
In Iran, the only people allowed to hold office are the religious fanatics. So there’s that!…:)
Again, you debunk your own argument.
"And we know Israel’s elections aren’t rigged because they allow the tin-foil hat crack pots (religious fanatics and settlers) to hold office."
And how is that different than the religious fanatics.
I also didn't lost on me when you ignored the fact that the Zionist Israel is ruling over millions of people who do not have the right to vote. Such situation does not exist in Iran.
If you say so! It’s honestly not worth the effort to correct you.
That said, we’d both be better off by stopping this nonsense, since the real tragedy is every time violence or attacks take place, the religious wing-nuts on both sides get stronger, while the rest of the population is paralyzed by fear, making it far more difficult for a two state solution to materialize.
This should be the focus of reasonable factions on both sides. That said, my instincts suggest you aren’t interested in a two state solution; just a fever dream that Israel will be annihilated. I hope I’m wrong because it will never happen without all sides being annihilated.