So, the guardrails appear set, tested and firm -- that's encouraging. What about sporadic, separate attacks by organized, armed and knowledgeable militia units, especially in SE and W states? Hope the FBI and Homeland Security forces, along w National Guard units are trained, willing and able to stand ready at electrical power substations, dams and transportation hubs.
This election ends when Kamala Harris takes the oath of office, not before. We had better be prepared to defend the result, and that may entail massive public protests. Are we ready to march if need be?
Hear hear! People think they are entitled to know those plans but loose lips sink ships. If the current admin & LEOs are keeping their current readiness options from leaking out I'm good with that. No point in letting the MAGAAtt nutzies know exactly what they will be up against this time. I know that I were in charge I'd be 'hardening' all government sites & making sure polling places are protected from those thugs with well armed & properly trained officers this time, starting in Nov & keeping them that way until well after the inauguration.
Also, is the govt prepared for another insurrection attempt? More violence and physical sabotage? This needs to be planned for and stopped. The Republican party and the Supreme Court have both shown they will allow the greedy and power hungry to gain more power. There’s too many cowards and weak people in politics. The lust for authoritarianism and absolute power is sick and dangerous. The GOP and their enablers disregard for the public and voters, who afford them their indulgent livelihoods, is obvious by the removal of freedoms and their lack of action to protect voting.
My thoughts exactly. People think they are entitled to know those plans but loose lips sink ships. If the current admin & LEOs are keeping their current readiness options from leaking out I'm good with that. No point in letting the MAGAAtt nutzies know exactly what they will be up against this time. I know that I were in charge I'd be 'hardening' all government sites & making sure polling places are protected from those thugs with well armed & properly trained officers this time, starting in Nov & keeping them that way until well after the inauguration.
Wow! If you believe that, how do you manage to get up every morning? Sometimes you just gotta believe.... after doing your best to support what you believe in. What alternative would you suggest? World peace would be lovely but reality and history suggest that won't happen any time soon. Meanwhile, you have the democratic right to try to influence outcomes through your government.
If you want both those wars to stop, go ahead and vote for Trump. He says he'll stop them but he doesn't say how. If the US stops sending military aid to Ukraine, Russia would just roll over the country and keep going. You want a larger war in Europe? How would that be better?
US stops sending military aid to Gaza, Netanyahu would find the money to continue and Hamas isn't going to just suddenly surrender. It wouldn't be the same but it sure wouldn't be better.
So... what? Easy to be pessimistic. Suggest some realistic, workable alternatives.
Our civil liberties will continue to be eroded via FBI/Security thugs that assault our citizens that report the news correctly not thru the filters of the deep state. Indepenent news beware the Feds are coming.
The wars in Ukraine and Gaza will continue unabated. Our bloody hands responsible for the military hardware killing civilians in these 2 wars and beyond. *woman, children babies* with our bombs.
Expect lots of folks to be incarcerated/injured for hitting the street in protest. The deep state and local cops and militias will be beating heads as citizens protest in frustration of above attrocities. Mostly our young adults as us older folks have been zombified by the propaganda vomited out by the state.
While everything you said might be true, the issue at hand is "due-process": WHAT we do, from a procedural standpoint (supported by the Constitution and the laws enacted to define those procedures), is the very foundation of our Country. Break that, and there is no Country (at least as we know it). On an emotional level, we prefer one candidate over another (that's our democracy), but at our absolute core, what matters is a safe, fair, accurate, and uncontested result. No shenanigans PLEASE!
Hate to break it to you in front of everyone else but--there is no such thing as a "deep state".
You suffer from a disease that has become common in recent decades--negativity bias. All you see is darkness. You can't tell the difference between wrong or right. You have lost your perspective.
You know it's easier to think the way you do. It's lazier. You don't have to do anything; just sit back, point your finger in every direction, left, right, up, down, and gripe.
I agree with those who suggest that the risk of violence from lone wolves and packs of wolves--domestic terrorism--will likely remain significant after a Harris win.
Because they (republican legislatures throughout the country) have drawn new districts, and they are working to throw millions of voters off of the voter rolls.
Gerrymandering only works for district reps' elections. The EC vote allocation is a statewide event. But the Red States are also doing everything they can get away with to (1) prevent left-leaning voters from accessing the polls, (2) set up election commissions with partisan hacks who will be allowed to refuse to certify the count, & (3) throw out results that they don't like. So, yeah, there's something to worry about there. It will be up to armies of lawyers to battle it out from Nov thru Jan. We are also faced with the CORRUPT SCREWTUS 6. Even if Harris receives a MAGAA-crushing win in the Popular & EC results, those double-dealing sycophants in the courts could give Hair Furor the game.
When your attack fails, do you use exactly the same tactics that you used before for your next attack?
Granted, buying off corrupt politicians like Trump does suit Putin and Israel, and we see no real signs that our politicians intend to pass common-sense legislation that would curb the worst of their ongoing abuses. Yes, corruption is a big gaping wound in our system, an opening for those who want to infect our society and destroy who we are.
Granted, American oligarchs have their own agenda and have bought the US Supreme Court, and they would help Russia if it meant preserving their wealth.
Why stop doing what seems likely to continue to work?
But the coup de grace shouldn't be obvious, because even a somewhat enfeebled opponent can defend against the obvious.
and a win for Trump would be even a greater approval of the genocide. If Kamala looses, Trump wins. Hold your nose and vote for the lesser threat to the Palestinians.
Do not agree. A loss of Kamala is a punishment. We the Muslims are not scared of a greater vs lesser evil. Evil is evil and must be punished by voting out
a loss of Kamala is punishment, to your people, not to Kamala or Israel, but to the world. Unfortunately, because we are still a democracy, we cannot move as quickly towards a solution as autocrats do. But at least we have a choice still for what is heading in the right direction. Don't give up hope by voting for a hopeless party (the green party) that has 0 influence on outcome. It's sad but a true reality at this time in history.
Sorry but no more AIPAC funded parties. Time has come for all the people with conscience to form a unified block under Anti Genocide political forces and abandon Trump, abandon Harris. And to be on record, I m a registered Republican but will vote Green.
Have you been listening at all!?!?!? tRump & his evil minions want to put Muslims on registries & be allowed to ship them off to camps. Do you really believe ANY Democrat in office would do that? Do you believe Bibi & his corrupt coalition of far-right racists can be controlled by any US administration? How many times has the US pressed for the only sane 2-state solution in the past 30 years, wherein Israel can protect itself RATIONALLY & surgically from attacks by well-funded terrorists while Palestinians can live in a self-governing sovereign nation on the land that Israel has illegally co-opted? Has either 'side' in the ME genuinely tried to get that done? NO! The MIC loves this conflict, as do the Evangelical nutjobs who want Armageddon to start in the ME so they can fly up to heaven naked & watch everyone not just like them burn. WAKE UP, because you are either a MAGAAtt hiding behind your handle or can't smell the crap dripping off tRump. To vote not for Harris gives tRump another excuse to claim he won & wreck havoc on American democracy.
They are all from the same fabric, just different colors. We are a lawless country both from the blue or red shrill voices because in the end, they both violate civil liberties and international law. There is no accountability anywhere for anyone be it criminal Trump or genocidal Joe…and their sycophants, media cheerleaders and political hacks (consultants) telling people what to think.
If you cannot see the stark differences between these two candidates and what they stand for, nor the crucial differences between the party lines (the US Constitution vs. Project 2025), then just stop talking. You are suffering from negativity bias and the ravages of relativism and jaded cynicism. You can add nothing to the debate.
Of course he will. He's still publicly defaming E.Jean Carroll after losing twice in civil court to her to the tune of $90M in judgements. He has a serious learning disability.
I respectfully disagree. Garland & others in Law Enforcement must build airtight cases against Hair Furor & his evil minions. Especially when the CORRUPT SCREWTUS 6 & incompetent, pocketed judges like A. Cannon can make up insanely pretzeled decisions reducing the Constitution & Federal Laws to used TP in his favor. That takes time & long, careful investigations. Little by little they are getting it done. The prosecutors must also constantly fend off TFG's lawyers' slimy appeals & efforts to create meaningless delays. Consider this: It took over 50 years to even start to bring down the Mafia. But, yeah, we are really tired of Hair Furor's very existence & the flood of requests for money from us by those who have big salaries & moneyed friends & PACs supported by the Uber-wealthy, as shrinkflation and corporate greed eat up the gains any increase in the minimum wage or Soc Sec COLA provides. Be patient & have faith that altho the Wheels of Justice grind slowly, tRump & his MAGAAtty enablers will eventually be dust.
So, the guardrails appear set, tested and firm -- that's encouraging. What about sporadic, separate attacks by organized, armed and knowledgeable militia units, especially in SE and W states? Hope the FBI and Homeland Security forces, along w National Guard units are trained, willing and able to stand ready at electrical power substations, dams and transportation hubs.
Yup, therein lays the REAL threat.
No doubt this is true. I wrote about it a few weeks ago:
https://open.substack.com/pub/briantanguay/p/are-democrats-prepared-for-asymmetric?r=adj3d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This election ends when Kamala Harris takes the oath of office, not before. We had better be prepared to defend the result, and that may entail massive public protests. Are we ready to march if need be?
Hear hear! People think they are entitled to know those plans but loose lips sink ships. If the current admin & LEOs are keeping their current readiness options from leaking out I'm good with that. No point in letting the MAGAAtt nutzies know exactly what they will be up against this time. I know that I were in charge I'd be 'hardening' all government sites & making sure polling places are protected from those thugs with well armed & properly trained officers this time, starting in Nov & keeping them that way until well after the inauguration.
Also, is the govt prepared for another insurrection attempt? More violence and physical sabotage? This needs to be planned for and stopped. The Republican party and the Supreme Court have both shown they will allow the greedy and power hungry to gain more power. There’s too many cowards and weak people in politics. The lust for authoritarianism and absolute power is sick and dangerous. The GOP and their enablers disregard for the public and voters, who afford them their indulgent livelihoods, is obvious by the removal of freedoms and their lack of action to protect voting.
I think police, FBI, DHS, National Guard, etc., are prepared to respond to any threats.
Jan 6 was a college course in what can happen--and what will happen again to some degree--for all law enforcement.
My thoughts exactly. People think they are entitled to know those plans but loose lips sink ships. If the current admin & LEOs are keeping their current readiness options from leaking out I'm good with that. No point in letting the MAGAAtt nutzies know exactly what they will be up against this time. I know that I were in charge I'd be 'hardening' all government sites & making sure polling places are protected from those thugs with well armed & properly trained officers this time, starting in Nov & keeping them that way until well after the inauguration.
Wow! If you believe that, how do you manage to get up every morning? Sometimes you just gotta believe.... after doing your best to support what you believe in. What alternative would you suggest? World peace would be lovely but reality and history suggest that won't happen any time soon. Meanwhile, you have the democratic right to try to influence outcomes through your government.
If you want both those wars to stop, go ahead and vote for Trump. He says he'll stop them but he doesn't say how. If the US stops sending military aid to Ukraine, Russia would just roll over the country and keep going. You want a larger war in Europe? How would that be better?
US stops sending military aid to Gaza, Netanyahu would find the money to continue and Hamas isn't going to just suddenly surrender. It wouldn't be the same but it sure wouldn't be better.
So... what? Easy to be pessimistic. Suggest some realistic, workable alternatives.
Citizens lose if either Harris or Trump wins.
Our civil liberties will continue to be eroded via FBI/Security thugs that assault our citizens that report the news correctly not thru the filters of the deep state. Indepenent news beware the Feds are coming.
The wars in Ukraine and Gaza will continue unabated. Our bloody hands responsible for the military hardware killing civilians in these 2 wars and beyond. *woman, children babies* with our bombs.
Expect lots of folks to be incarcerated/injured for hitting the street in protest. The deep state and local cops and militias will be beating heads as citizens protest in frustration of above attrocities. Mostly our young adults as us older folks have been zombified by the propaganda vomited out by the state.
Again: no winners if Trump or Harris wins.
<< caveat>>
The deep state wins
War industry win
Politician$ win
AIPAC wins
**we lose**
While everything you said might be true, the issue at hand is "due-process": WHAT we do, from a procedural standpoint (supported by the Constitution and the laws enacted to define those procedures), is the very foundation of our Country. Break that, and there is no Country (at least as we know it). On an emotional level, we prefer one candidate over another (that's our democracy), but at our absolute core, what matters is a safe, fair, accurate, and uncontested result. No shenanigans PLEASE!
Hate to break it to you in front of everyone else but--there is no such thing as a "deep state".
You suffer from a disease that has become common in recent decades--negativity bias. All you see is darkness. You can't tell the difference between wrong or right. You have lost your perspective.
You know it's easier to think the way you do. It's lazier. You don't have to do anything; just sit back, point your finger in every direction, left, right, up, down, and gripe.
Yeah, at least the vice president will cause no headaches this time.
I agree with those who suggest that the risk of violence from lone wolves and packs of wolves--domestic terrorism--will likely remain significant after a Harris win.
If Biden blew away Trump by 7 million votes in 2020, what would cause political experts to not think
Harris would win by even more votes this year?
Because they (republican legislatures throughout the country) have drawn new districts, and they are working to throw millions of voters off of the voter rolls.
Gerrymandering only works for district reps' elections. The EC vote allocation is a statewide event. But the Red States are also doing everything they can get away with to (1) prevent left-leaning voters from accessing the polls, (2) set up election commissions with partisan hacks who will be allowed to refuse to certify the count, & (3) throw out results that they don't like. So, yeah, there's something to worry about there. It will be up to armies of lawyers to battle it out from Nov thru Jan. We are also faced with the CORRUPT SCREWTUS 6. Even if Harris receives a MAGAA-crushing win in the Popular & EC results, those double-dealing sycophants in the courts could give Hair Furor the game.
The fact is that gerrymandering rarely achieves the desired effect on the larger picture. Time and time again, it all just averages out.
When your attack fails, do you use exactly the same tactics that you used before for your next attack?
Granted, buying off corrupt politicians like Trump does suit Putin and Israel, and we see no real signs that our politicians intend to pass common-sense legislation that would curb the worst of their ongoing abuses. Yes, corruption is a big gaping wound in our system, an opening for those who want to infect our society and destroy who we are.
Granted, American oligarchs have their own agenda and have bought the US Supreme Court, and they would help Russia if it meant preserving their wealth.
Why stop doing what seems likely to continue to work?
But the coup de grace shouldn't be obvious, because even a somewhat enfeebled opponent can defend against the obvious.
I hope Kamala looses. A win for Kamala would be an approval of the Genocide
and a win for Trump would be even a greater approval of the genocide. If Kamala looses, Trump wins. Hold your nose and vote for the lesser threat to the Palestinians.
Do not agree. A loss of Kamala is a punishment. We the Muslims are not scared of a greater vs lesser evil. Evil is evil and must be punished by voting out
Well IDK if a no vote helps who wins, but I do know a vote for Kamala is a lesser evil and fear or no fear has nothing to do with outcome of the vote.
We will vote for anti-genocide forces like Green Party
a loss of Kamala is punishment, to your people, not to Kamala or Israel, but to the world. Unfortunately, because we are still a democracy, we cannot move as quickly towards a solution as autocrats do. But at least we have a choice still for what is heading in the right direction. Don't give up hope by voting for a hopeless party (the green party) that has 0 influence on outcome. It's sad but a true reality at this time in history.
Sorry but no more AIPAC funded parties. Time has come for all the people with conscience to form a unified block under Anti Genocide political forces and abandon Trump, abandon Harris. And to be on record, I m a registered Republican but will vote Green.
Okay, your mind is made up. Sorry to hear but, but also I do understand .
Have you been listening at all!?!?!? tRump & his evil minions want to put Muslims on registries & be allowed to ship them off to camps. Do you really believe ANY Democrat in office would do that? Do you believe Bibi & his corrupt coalition of far-right racists can be controlled by any US administration? How many times has the US pressed for the only sane 2-state solution in the past 30 years, wherein Israel can protect itself RATIONALLY & surgically from attacks by well-funded terrorists while Palestinians can live in a self-governing sovereign nation on the land that Israel has illegally co-opted? Has either 'side' in the ME genuinely tried to get that done? NO! The MIC loves this conflict, as do the Evangelical nutjobs who want Armageddon to start in the ME so they can fly up to heaven naked & watch everyone not just like them burn. WAKE UP, because you are either a MAGAAtt hiding behind your handle or can't smell the crap dripping off tRump. To vote not for Harris gives tRump another excuse to claim he won & wreck havoc on American democracy.
I respect your views but we will not vote for any candidate that is backed by AIPAC
They are all from the same fabric, just different colors. We are a lawless country both from the blue or red shrill voices because in the end, they both violate civil liberties and international law. There is no accountability anywhere for anyone be it criminal Trump or genocidal Joe…and their sycophants, media cheerleaders and political hacks (consultants) telling people what to think.
If you cannot see the stark differences between these two candidates and what they stand for, nor the crucial differences between the party lines (the US Constitution vs. Project 2025), then just stop talking. You are suffering from negativity bias and the ravages of relativism and jaded cynicism. You can add nothing to the debate.
Isn't Trump going to try to make a big deal out of Harris counting her own electoral votes?
It's her constitutional responsibility, so she must do it. She could bring in a R to check her work -- say, Mike Pence maybe.
LOL. Now THAT would be worth watching.
Well of course! He questions the very existence of our Constitution and everything under it, including due-process.
Of course he will. He's still publicly defaming E.Jean Carroll after losing twice in civil court to her to the tune of $90M in judgements. He has a serious learning disability.
I respectfully disagree. Garland & others in Law Enforcement must build airtight cases against Hair Furor & his evil minions. Especially when the CORRUPT SCREWTUS 6 & incompetent, pocketed judges like A. Cannon can make up insanely pretzeled decisions reducing the Constitution & Federal Laws to used TP in his favor. That takes time & long, careful investigations. Little by little they are getting it done. The prosecutors must also constantly fend off TFG's lawyers' slimy appeals & efforts to create meaningless delays. Consider this: It took over 50 years to even start to bring down the Mafia. But, yeah, we are really tired of Hair Furor's very existence & the flood of requests for money from us by those who have big salaries & moneyed friends & PACs supported by the Uber-wealthy, as shrinkflation and corporate greed eat up the gains any increase in the minimum wage or Soc Sec COLA provides. Be patient & have faith that altho the Wheels of Justice grind slowly, tRump & his MAGAAtty enablers will eventually be dust.
So good and reassuring to read this and to know the threat is being addressed. Good luck America!