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Mehrdad's avatar

The only way to bring peace to Israel and Palestinian is to completely dismantle this genocidal and apartheid regime and heal the wounds, those responsible for this genocide need to be brought to justice. The world need to be done to the ZioNazi what they did to the Nazi, that is the only peace can take roots in that part of the world.

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laurie miller's avatar

Obvious to any intelligent person,

Trouble is the Israeli Jews are thieves and liars,

That makes a solution impossible.

lauriemillerjade.com

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Anna Katharina Pondelik's avatar

It is Palestine. Has always been. Only because of our guilt and shame, it became 77 years of havoc and more murder and shame.

greetings from germany.

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kat amara - korba's avatar

you can’t impose thoughts on people. When 80% of Isreali jews claim that Palestinians are less human than they are , there is.no legislation or policy that can change this. Policy and plans sound great, how will policy change the race supremacy and ugliness that makes 80% of Isreali Jews believe palestinians are less human. ?

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laurie miller's avatar

And that is the problem.

lauriemillerjade.com

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Where did you get this information from Iran??? Again posting information against Israel without any backup supports this group and its Iranian handlers. You have no backup for your lies because none exists.

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laurie miller's avatar

Ignorant stupid woman

Its out there for all to see F*WIT. just look you persistantly ignorant woman

lauriemillerjade.com

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Wow THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE!!! Talking about your name really bugs you, doesn't it??? I do not care if you say I am a bad speller, I know I am. I can take it, but you can't. I am sorry for you. Here is a deal. I will leave you alone if you leave me alone. What that means since you do appear to be that bright is I will not respond to your postings if you do not respond to my posting. Otherwise we can keep insulting each other, that is all right with me but honestly it is not really a productive use of my time, maybe yours, but not mine.

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Pat Duran's avatar

You respond to every article critical of Israel with the same accusation of Iranian influence, so it's impossible to take you seriously. Obviously you are a die-hard supporter of Zionism, and emotionally committed to the Zion colony, and there is nothing anyone can say to change your mind.

But the truth is that the world is in the process of turning against Israel as people around the globe realize that it was founded on land stolen from hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, who were made homeless refugees by this violent displacement. You can't unring the bell, and anti-Israel sentiment is only going to get stronger as time goes by. Israel is doomed, and your energies would be better spent assisting Israeli Jews to emigrate to the west before the proverbial excrement hits the fan.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

We will see what happens. Just because you say Israel does not make it so and who made it your decision anyway??? As far as my critic of Iran, it has nothing to do with Israel. It has everything to do with the sponsor of this posting, Zeteo who constantly refuses to answer my specific question to it which is: Do you receive any funds to support your organization from the government of Iran and/or anyone associated with said government? This is a simple question which deserves an answer. I do not need to tell you but I will anyway that once the answer is posted on this board I will not post anymore because I have other things to do with my time. However, as long as Zeteo supports the Iranian view on just about everything without disclosing their bias due to the fact that they are directly or INDIRECTLY SUPPORTED by people associated with government of Iran, I will continue to post on this board. TRUTH IS NOT SUBJECT TO A DEBATE!! DISCLOSE YOUR FUNDING ZETEO SO WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

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Pat Duran's avatar

It is certainly not my decision whether Israel survives or not; that is a collective decision of the western nations that currently support Israel whether that support will continue or not. I am definitely working to convince my government to cease any and all support to Israel because I believe it to be an illegitimate colonial occupation of Palestine that is perpetrating genocide and land theft.

Iran is no threat to the US, and no longer has any beef with the US after the revolution that threw out the US installed dictator Pahlavi. I intend to visit Iran in the near future; it looks like a beautiful country with a rich history and culture.

You hate Iran because you are a supporter of Zionist Israel and Iran openly supports the struggle of the Palestinian people against Zionist occupation. Fair enough, but your insistence that Iran is bankrolling Zeteo is just plain bizarre and obsessive. Houthi Yemen is even more anti-Zionist than Iran - why aren't you asking if they are giving financial support to Zeteo? Or Turkey, or Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, which apparently hosts the leaders of Hamas?

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Mehrdad's avatar

Lets see a professor that is the son of Holocaust survival has to say about the Israeli society, shall we.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jfkhj9NtFCg

Or maybe he is secretly from Iran

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Not everyone in Israel agrees with what Israel is doing. Not everyon

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Mehrdad's avatar

Not everyone but vast majority and YOU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zszDEjFNj6Y

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Not the vast majority, what are you quoting more information from your Iranian buddies??? zsz...... what is that some kind of code???

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Not everyone in the United States agrees with what the United States is doing either. I do not agree with everything that Israel or the USA is doing either. The difference between Israel and the US as opposed to Iran. When you disagree with the government is Israel or the US you do not get your hand chopped off for talking against the government. In Iran you do get your hand chopped off or maybe they just put you in prison for 20 years on a bread and water diet.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Both Israel and the US allow people to speak against their government without being punished. This is not the case with Iran, they do not tolerate any speaking against the government which is made up of followers of RADICAL ISLAM, who do not allow Christians, Jews or non Islamic religions to be freely practiced in Iran.

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Mehrdad's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XYhGuEYEJ8Q

BTW, how much the Zionist are paying you for defending their rape and genocide? Last report was they pay $7000 to those who are willing to sell their soul to defend the ZioNazi regime.

You must be getting rich quick.

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Mehrdad's avatar

Where did you get this info that is from Iran??? Again posting information against Iran without any backup supports the genocidal handlers. You have no backup for your lies because the genocide exist.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Oh I get it. You are trying to use my own words against me. IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK!!! I have been asked this question before and my answer is always the same. I have done research on this issue and that is the conclusion that I have come to. HOWEVER, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Do your own research come to your own conclusions. Also do not take Zeteo's word for it. Everyone knows though that Iran is an enemy of the US and the US has no "diplomatic relations" with that country. They have no diplomatic presence in the USA and the other way around, that should give you a hint, SHERLOCK! If and when the USA has normal diplomatic relations with the country of Iran, I will retract my statement. I honestly hope that happens some day. BUT IT IS NOT HAPPENING TODAY AND does not appear to be happening in the near future. But we can all hope for peace between all countries of the world one day. By the the USA has diplomatic relations with both Russia and China who have many disagreements with USA policy, yet they still want to talk to us. That is the adult thing to do, Iran does not want to talk to the USA at all and they call us the THE BIG SATAN! It is Iran's fault it has no diplomatic relations with us (USA), they (Iran) do not want to even talk to us at all. Us being the USA. Again I have no problem with any country talking to any other country. However, as you know you show a horse water, but you cannot make it drink.

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Mehrdad's avatar

I did my own research and found you are genocide denier and a liar

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laurie miller's avatar

And a JEW paid to intercept and try to deflect from their holocaust.

lauriemillerjade

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

What the hell are you whining about? IF you have proof for what you are saying state the source, sorry if I do not take your word for it.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

WILL I GUESS YOU DID A LOUSY JOB IN DOING YOUR RESEARCH!!! I am not afraid to tell OTHER people to do their OWN research. I WAS NOT TALKLING TO YOU!!! Of course if all you did was look at the Iranian Post Newspaper or other sources that are supported by Iran or any of its supporters, then of course you would get biased or untrue information. I cannot change your mind if your mind is all ready made up. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY the comment was not made to you as you have already made up your mind. The comment was for the public in general and the readers of these posting, again it was not for YOU, as YOU have already made up your mind and your personal beliefs do not allow you to properly access the evidence that is available.

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Jeremy Brown's avatar

It’ll never happen

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Whatever you are referring to remember ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, maybe not exactly how you think it will, but there is a great probability that it will not happen the way YOU want it to happen!

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Protect the Vote's avatar

Cheeto and White Supremacy

Nazis/white supremacists of today feared that their position of power was being lost due to the "great replacement"(American white demographic would be overwhelmed by growing minority groups) This was argued ad nauseam on the right wing propaganda channel with such notable dirtbags as Trucker Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham and Gutfeld

But their defensive positioning has reversed from denying rights of the "inferior" minority groups(AfroAmericans, Asians, East Indians, even Native American Indians) to an offensive position to demand that their position of superiority be recognized Cheeto being bankrolled by his billionaire class and his cypto heist is ready to put this offensive dictator position in play

This offensive positioning has led the Nazi party to the self righteous conclusion that in the grand scheme of politics that it’s perfectly normal to keep these “no account inferiors” from dominating the political scene Rather than celebrating and embracing DEI(diversity equity and inclusion) there is a concerted attack ultimately leading to excess gerrymandering Win at any cost so as to suppress the “inferiors”

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Wizarat Rizvi's avatar

One Democratic State for two people, it is only a matter of time, very much like South Africa.

A Jeffersonian Democracy like ours. One Person one vote.

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Luther M Ragin Jr's avatar

A key difference between Palestine and South Africa is that the governing white minority in South Africa knew, as a minority, it could not overcome both an internal insurgency by the black majority and external economic pressure in the form of tightening sanctions. The Israeli and Palestinian populations are nearly equal in size, Israel is unlikely to face international sanctions on the scale South Africa did, and its government assumes — rightly or wrongly — it can suppress, scatter or dominate the Palestinians for the foreseeable future. Not excusing or agreeing, just explaining.

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Wizarat Rizvi's avatar

I do agree that the demographic difference is substantial, but the idea of BDS seems to be working, and in the last eighteen months, we have seen a shift towards more sanctions on Israel. It will probably take longer than SA, but the model is there to follow.

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Jay Friedman's avatar

This article relies on highly contested premises, downplays both Israeli and Palestinian political realities, and presents a solution that is extremely unlikely to be accepted by either population under current or foreseeable conditions. No rational level of international pressure will change this, and attempts to do so would only cause abject failure for both.

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Nancy's avatar

Yes, and there is no international pressure. Rather, the opposite is true. Thanks to the U.N. Security Council, Israel now has the blessing of the international community to continue doing whatever it wants.

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Jay Friedman's avatar

Thus, your point would only reinforce that the authors of this article's beliefs are fallacious

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

And what about IRAN??? I DO not know if the international community supports this country, Iran. I do not think so. However, it does not matter at all. Iran exists and it is supporting the enemies of Israel and is constantly trying to upset any attempts for peace in the middle east, if in connection with other countries that have issues in the middle east. Iran does not need international support to achieve it goals. It is an oil rich country and countries like Russia and North Korea buy oil from Iran all the time, so it does not have to worry about where its money comes from.

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laurie miller's avatar

Iran has NO nuclear weapons and doesn't bomb its neighbours.

Go read more F*WIT

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

What is F*WIT??? That is a new one, I must say your swear words are getting more creative, but it is still called cussing and my parents would never let me do such things. Maybe because you are a MAN you can do that but I do not think it is appropriate for anyone to do.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Oh IRAN HAS NO WEAPONS!! Right and a Zebra does not have any strips. How does Iran defend itself from its non Islamic enemies??? There are Christians and Jews all over the place, they might contaminate the loyal followers of Islam. Does Iran have Bows and Arrows, like native Americans??? Come on I was not born yesterday. By the way all men in Iran own guns and that is a weapon, in case you did not know. Man you are going to have to do better than this.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Oh sorry you said NUCLEAR WEAPONS, IRAN HAS NOT NUCLEAR WEAPONS. But it does have weapons, you do not need a Nuclear weapon to kill someone by the way. A plain old gun will do.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

You know a nuetron bomb is technically not a Nuclear Weapon in the traditional sense yet it exists and it is very destructive, maybe Iran has one of those. Gees really I do not care what weapons it has, it has weapons and these weapons for killing people. That is the point, not what kind of weapons, that should be obvious to you!

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Literally nothing here about how any of this will ever come about because it will never come about.

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Mnbv's avatar

Zeteo had an interview with a Hungarian Jewish Holocaust survivor who said even in pre1967 Israel Israelis were prejudiced against Arabs. Just as European colonists were of Indigenous Americans. Which is a necessary condition for settler colonialism. And with generation and generation of birthright American kids spending a gap year in Israel partying and coming back anti-Palestinian (“so weird to see these people hate us” my closest friend wrote to me when we were 18) the future is bleak.

I applaud the authors for trying to move the Overton window away from the 2-state fantasy to one state apartheid reality. But how, how, how? It may be the only way forward is for Netanyahu be granted some kind of immunity. Men who cling to power to avoid legal prosecution use their supreme power to do terrible things out of self-interest (cf Russia, USA).

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

Unless the "one State Solution" is for Palestinian leaders with access to take elected reins of government of Palestein - Israel, with actual one person, one vote for adults, this will not change the hearts and minds of the Isreli population. As a person from the USA and our current chaotic and destructive ( world-wide bad decisions and policies) government, I can see what is needed for the best chance for positive change here and internationally. We need to clean house. That is: a Congress and a people ready to kick out current leaders and all Cabinet Members ( using the tools we have to impeach first the Administrative Branch, in total, even if one at a time, and then our whole Congressional Branch by national elections in 2026. Forget terms of office, everyone is running, or drops out of running and is replaced by popular vote for a new Congress with possible return of incumbents by popular vote. Let the 2026 election cycle begin! As far as Israel - Palestine, despite the deaths of too many Palestinian voters, internationally managed and monitored elections can be held, without USA involvement in voting process and can be well monitored in all aspects of nominations, voting and counting of ballots. This would give the entire body of people of both Palestein and Israeli a fair election. Maybe we can have one of those here in the USA, too, to fill Federal Congress and perhaps our Supreme Court?, positions by the vote of the most people - a popular vote count instead of our current germandered districts non-sense. Such a popular count should determine Nation wide voting in Israel with an option to vote for a one-state solution, with one Constitution and one set of laws and equal access to rights and privileges for all who live there.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

This is a good idea IF AND ONLY IF it is possible to make sure that IRAN DOES NOT INTERFER OR SUPPORT ANYBODY in any elections, Iran will obviously attempt to do this very thing.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

Iran has its own problems and issues and has less to be concerned about with interfering with any plan that has a remote possibility to get Israel to stop genocide in GAZA ( mightly unpopular with Iranian people) and not having to go to war with anyone to stop it. The rich people with the most money to lose ( remember their dreams for waterfront resorts in Gaza) are the Trumps and maybe the Saudis who do not want free elections anywhere in the world shaking up their family business. I do think they (the Saudis) may stay (actively) out of this though they have been making war against Yemen for years, if not decades. If Israeli military and the USA can stop assassinating leaders that threaten them, elections may have a chance. Should we not support free elections for all people in Israel and Palestein to decide between two state or one State, with equal rights and protections as a goal for all?

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

You do not speak for Iran, or do you?? Sure all countries have their problems that does not mean that they are NOT going to interfer in other countries issues. I am no fan of the Saudis by the way, the Saudis "have their own problems". The problem is that Iran does not want to join the international community and its goal is to promote its version of Islam throughout the world. If they did this peacefully that would be all right, but they do not. Iran will not tolerate religious diversity IN ITS OWN COUNTRY and seeks violent overthrow of certain governments that refuse to impose Sheit (as opposed to Sunni or Asian) Islamic beliefs and Islamic law on their people.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

I do not speak for Iran but I did notice how they responded to Israel's bombing of their lands. I do not believe that any nation should bomb another but I do understand that the Iranian retaliation, against Israeli, was a military target and involved no civilian victums. I noted that Israel stopped their continued bombing of Iran. Iran did not continue bombing anyone, unlike Israel which has violated two "ceasefires" and continues to kill civilians daily. Perhaps Iran does the same of its own people or those from other nations, but this is NOT what is reported as being done by Iran, by local or regional news sources or by international ones. I am pretty sure we in the USA would hear about it if this was happening. As far as I can tell from reports in international press, Iran is not an aggressor nation to civilians outside their own nation, at this time.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

It does not matter one bit if Iran is not an aggressor to other countries if it is an aggressor to ITS OWN PEOPLE and persecuted people who want to follow a religion other than the Sheit version of Islam. Persecuting your own people for not follow the religion you want them to follow is just as bad or worse than starting fights with other nations.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

So true for every religion and nation. That is why the Christian right is wrong. Freedom of Religion is a cornerstone of the USA Constitution and should remain so. I also like that Bishop Barber is involving all religious groups in a call out for compassion and help for others, no matter what their religion. Freedom from want is a basic right.

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Geoffrey Tanner's avatar

I don't know whether or not it is possible in the foreseeable future but I too have come to the conclusion over the last few years that a one-state solution is the only thing that could actually work.

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Nevin Oliphant's avatar

Two state solutions always fail. India and Pakistan resulted in two nuclear powers and a permanent threat of war. Nation states can't solve apartheid, they are simply apartheid writ large. Eventually, a global one-state solution with equality for everyone is the only realistic path to peace on earth.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Nothing can be done until Iran stops interfering in the process of peace between the two parties. I know that is not in your interest Zeteo, but that would help to solve the problem.

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Lynn's avatar

Some very negative comments here, but I am impressed by DAWN and the efforts to bring democracy for all.

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Robert Fuentes's avatar

There are areas in Israel where peoples of all ethnicities of the Middle East live without warfare. If they can do it, so can the whole of Israel-Palestine. 20% of the population of Israel are of Arab ethnicity and most are Israeli citizens. The kernel of the single state solution is present in Israel.

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Robert Fuentes's avatar

About 20% of Israel's population identifies as Arab and the large majority are Israeli citizens. If they can live in Israel then the entire population "between the river and the sea" can live as one country. The key is equality of opportunity and of political power.

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