On ‘Ask the Editor,’ Mehdi and Prem call out GOP hypocrisy, as the domestic ‘War on Terror’ comes to Portland, Oregon. Plus: is it time for Schumer and Jeffries to resign?
I’m in Portland. The Portland Police have testified in court that ICE agents have been instigating clashes with protestors at the ICE facility. Also, a lot of the photos that mainstream media have been sharing of the clashes (and Portland in general) are grossly misleading. They manage to make it look super dystopian, and as someone who actually lives here, it’s almost surreal to see the level of the distortion. The ICE facility is just one building in this nice area just south of downtown called the South Waterfront, which is mostly full of residential buildings, shops, and some Oregon Health & Science University and Knight Cancer Institute buildings. There is a Tesla dealership kitty corner to the ICE building, and there was a charter school across from the ICE building that had to relocate because of all the chemicals that the ICE agents were using on protestors. There have been a small number of people (1-2 dozen) regularly protesting the facility. One of the regular protestors wears a chicken costume and sometimes hands out cookies. I am describing all of this to try to convey how benign it all is. And yet when I see the photos that are being shared in the news, they’re often at night, with ICE agents kitted out in tactical gear and with tear gas or smoke surrounding them. Of course that makes it look scary, but it could not be further from the truth. It’s just bizarre seeing firsthand how the media manipulates its viewers/readers through selective framing. I always knew that the media did this - fear & outrage drives engagement - but it’s really strange being in the middle of it and seeing how massive the disconnect is between what is being conveyed and reality.
Thank you for sharing this information. It's so important that people not be fooled by the reporting of the msm. For those in blue states, you can contact your state's sttprney generals and request that they file an amicus brief in support of Oregon's lawsuit if they haven't already done so.
This has been true as long as I can remember-and I’m oldish. I attended The Who concert in Cincinnati where 11 people died. When I read the coverage of it in both the NYT and Time Magazine, both of which were considered factual at that time, it bore no resemblance to what I experienced as an attendee at the show. In fact, more recent research on crowd dynamics, some 10 years ago, was a better description of what occurred there. That concert was in the late 70’s.
More recently, I was seriously misquoted by a local journalist I know personally who completely manipulated what I said. I’ve learned to take ALL coverage with skepticism.
Yes please, get those wet noodles Schumer and Jeffries out of there. Someone with some backbone and strong language needs to take over the opposition to this corrupt administration. Stephen Miller has been unleashed and we are getting 'war on terror' 'war on immigrants' 'war on the Left'.
I will do you one better. Kill a single individual and they are labeled a terrorist. Kill multiple people and set fire to a church and it is described as "an attack of targeted violence". Give me a break.
Straight out of Hitler's Remigration, the Orange Cheeto described how immigrants are destroying the country by taking away jobs and benefits from Hard Working Americans, diluting voters' choice, cheating in elections, growing the welfare state
"These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities—And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports—And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!”
The boogeymen(Democrats and immigrants) have been identified and the Nazis are ready to strike all the blue cities across the country The Civil War is on
Protest Protest Protest Bring neighbors friends relatives This is how WE the People fight fascism
Dr., Assuming by your name that you are "safe" - ie a white male 2+ generation US Citizen, kudos for protesting and representing those at risk (or simply at work w little time to protest!)
May I suggest: Learn how to identify, report (on apps or Signal groups) and Document Fed Agents, esp the often not in uniform ICE agents (in LA they're usually masked and brandishing high power weapons) and their unmarked vehicles. Know Your Rights (and a little Spanish helps)
We need to organize, get to know our local groups, who are the helpers, what are our rights etc. From Legal resources, to Food delivery to folks too fearful to go out to shop, to which Hospitals are standing up to protect against ICE, to groups that schedule "safe" volunteers to sit at Home Depot parking lots, groups watching outside Federal Buildings to make life hard for the Gazpacho, groups checking the DHS detainment lists to find lost loved ones. Groups of volunteers who go to Immigration Court, because the Regime is sending out notices to immigrants to entrap them, giving them court dates, where they show up and have their cases, sometimes Decades old, Cancelled right in front of them, then turn around and find some ICE goons waiting to drag them away from their "legal" spouse and children, and businesses and LIFE. Groups finding new housing and support for families that have lost their main breadwinner. Groups standing near schools to keep ICE off the property... The list goes on.
That's what is happening in Los Angeles, where this "war on the enemy within" was launched. Half our people are Latino. Over 5,000 Angelenos are known to have been abducted and are Gone, some deported, some sitting in detention, some whose whereabouts are still unknown. Others may have been taken unknown. Probably women.
This is where the RW wants to launch its redification campaign. They long to control California. Not just for revenge. For MONEY and Land and resources and for the Pacific Rim and the Port of Los Angeles and the Marines and the Navy and the Universities. and the KNOWLEDGE.
But CA made its deal with the devil long ago. The Military Industrial Complex built this economy. It built Silicon Valley and its taking it back. The Oil and War Barons. The Issas and the McCarthy's. They don't seem to understand that if they get it, all of that wealth will rot on the vine.
LOTS of red money here, between the RE and PE crowd, like RINODINO Rick Caruso, and the OC $$$, and SD 's War Industry ... not to mention what's happening at China Lake (Tech MIC takeover w Private prison to boot...) and the Resnick's stranglehold on our states Water (Big Ag meets Aipac. Boycott WONDERFUL pistachios and almonds. Add it to the list)
The coup of CA is happening before our eyes, but of course the Dems are acting as if CA has always been "safe blue" and always will be. (We need help with Proposition 50 that will allow our Leg to suspend the "neutral" districting committee and redraw 5 districts to counter the Texas 5! Volunteers needed!)
Well, we seniors know better. I got out here to attend UCSD as Reagan was entering the White House. As a student I experienced how he had gutted funding for the UCs and All education.
But I studied Communications under Herb Schiller, and Chinese Studies under Richard Madsen, Paul Pickowicz and others. I learned how to identify the Manufacturing of Consent, and the signs of concentration of wealth and power. I will keep on trying to fight it. But Man it's tiring.
we support Zorhan!! I also called US Capitol and left Jeffrey's and Schumer a message and said if they folded and funded this administration without getting our Medicaid back and STOP FUNDING ICE THEY WILL BE VOTED OUT!!💯
The generals never understood fully why 'reformed drunk' secretary of war Pete Hegseth convoked them to the US Marines base at Quantico, Virginia, within a crow's flight from Trump in Washington. It is obvious he want to ' bring them into line' MAGA like Congress, the Supreme Court, the civil bureaucracy, media, universities, local governments. A US version of Hitler's 'gleichschaltung'. Trump loves military parades. Will he lead his 'generals' like the snake oil huckster Harold Hill. in 'Music Man' in a grand parade, in lockstep, with '76 trombones' up Constitution Avenue?
Re: the bromance displayed by Bibi and Donald. Nauseating show. Still ignores the two state solution. But Medhi, what's the big deal about pronunciation of "abraham" in the Abraham Accords reference. Trump couldn't settle on one pronunciation. Even Bibi said something about it. What's up?
Most people don't understand the animus evangelicals and other conservative Christian denominations have for Mormons. I was born Mormon in 1967 and left the faith in 2012. Evangelicals in the town I grew up in in CA demonized us from the pulpit on the regular and refused to acknowledge we were even Christian. Even though Mormons doctrinally and politically fit solidly within the Christian right. I read the Bible in church every week and we revered Joseph Smith as a prophet, but never remotely equal to Jesus. Christ was the center of our religion and always infinitely superior to Smith. Right now I'll bet you there is a nervous huddle-up going on among President Trump's advisors, trying to decide if they should tell him to not refer to Mormons as Christians, after he endorsed them as such in his initial war on Christians post. To someone with my background, it looks a lot like a retaliatory act against Mormons for Kirk, inflamed by all the rhetoric of the need to destroy the perpetrators of political violence. I don't think we've seen the end of evangelical violence against mormons in retribution for Kirk, if indeed that's what it was.
Ah, never thought of that. That's very frightening. The willingness and readiness to take lives in vengeance. The commonality in all the violence is the splintering of our people into so many shattered, digitally sourced, astroturfed communities. On the one hand rendering the "free thinkers" on the left unable to organize any strength in numbers, on the other hand creating these lone wolf men who hate life and can only find meaning in "snuffing out" the "enemy"
Next week when you do this I hope that you’re going to address this “Gaza deal” this administration pushing… because of how they have been acting I worry that the ulterior motives will be to use that peace deal to still serve Israel, demolish Gaza (immediately after they get the rest of the hostages), and then use that one good deed of stopping the genocide/starvation/slaughter to further push the domestic fascistic crap & then not allow the UN or ICC to further investigate Israel for The Hague to hold bibi and his minions accountable. I tend to not trust things that seem too good to be true, especially with the grotesque antics the people in charge of these two countries have shown they double-down on doing.
The "latest" Gaza deal I've been hearing about is one where Tony Blair heads up some kind of commission to rebuild Gaza. I can't think of a worse person for the job. He is, after all, a war criminal partly responsible for the invasion of Iraq.
Yeah I saw something about that too and I wanted to rip my hair out. And liberal d-bags have given the Iraqi-war criminals, lying and “torturing some folks” ppl all this cover to pretend they haven’t paved the way to this insane shit. That is exactly why I’m hoping Prem and Mehdi will go over it and take questions about it cuz I have want the suffering and genocide to end and I’m terrified those ppl will set things up to make things worse once those hostages are all released. I mean they’re passing a law to start executing Palestinian prisoners now too.
Listening to this, loving it but got me wondering, who has deeper pockets than AIPAC... I am not an American, but wondered what would happen if a group was formed with as deep pockets, who could counter their influence, advance progressive ideals. The trick would be TO limit influence so that this does not become as corrupt a situation as already exists???
Why can't my fellow Democrats see that obstructing fascists isn't a bad thing? Democracy requires debate, argument, and compromise in order to serve the will of the people. The current so-called "governing" party believes in none of these, therefore, the Democrats' main job is to block the works and get the "GOP" out of power.
I’m in Portland. The Portland Police have testified in court that ICE agents have been instigating clashes with protestors at the ICE facility. Also, a lot of the photos that mainstream media have been sharing of the clashes (and Portland in general) are grossly misleading. They manage to make it look super dystopian, and as someone who actually lives here, it’s almost surreal to see the level of the distortion. The ICE facility is just one building in this nice area just south of downtown called the South Waterfront, which is mostly full of residential buildings, shops, and some Oregon Health & Science University and Knight Cancer Institute buildings. There is a Tesla dealership kitty corner to the ICE building, and there was a charter school across from the ICE building that had to relocate because of all the chemicals that the ICE agents were using on protestors. There have been a small number of people (1-2 dozen) regularly protesting the facility. One of the regular protestors wears a chicken costume and sometimes hands out cookies. I am describing all of this to try to convey how benign it all is. And yet when I see the photos that are being shared in the news, they’re often at night, with ICE agents kitted out in tactical gear and with tear gas or smoke surrounding them. Of course that makes it look scary, but it could not be further from the truth. It’s just bizarre seeing firsthand how the media manipulates its viewers/readers through selective framing. I always knew that the media did this - fear & outrage drives engagement - but it’s really strange being in the middle of it and seeing how massive the disconnect is between what is being conveyed and reality.
Felt exactly the same here in Los Angeles.
Thank you for sharing this information. It's so important that people not be fooled by the reporting of the msm. For those in blue states, you can contact your state's sttprney generals and request that they file an amicus brief in support of Oregon's lawsuit if they haven't already done so.
This is super helpful to know first-hand from you. Thank you.
This has been true as long as I can remember-and I’m oldish. I attended The Who concert in Cincinnati where 11 people died. When I read the coverage of it in both the NYT and Time Magazine, both of which were considered factual at that time, it bore no resemblance to what I experienced as an attendee at the show. In fact, more recent research on crowd dynamics, some 10 years ago, was a better description of what occurred there. That concert was in the late 70’s.
More recently, I was seriously misquoted by a local journalist I know personally who completely manipulated what I said. I’ve learned to take ALL coverage with skepticism.
Yes please, get those wet noodles Schumer and Jeffries out of there. Someone with some backbone and strong language needs to take over the opposition to this corrupt administration. Stephen Miller has been unleashed and we are getting 'war on terror' 'war on immigrants' 'war on the Left'.
Annalisa - Good for the Portland police for speaking the truth. THAT needs to be reported by mainstream media.
I will do you one better. Kill a single individual and they are labeled a terrorist. Kill multiple people and set fire to a church and it is described as "an attack of targeted violence". Give me a break.
Cheeto's Truth Social Tells It All
Straight out of Hitler's Remigration, the Orange Cheeto described how immigrants are destroying the country by taking away jobs and benefits from Hard Working Americans, diluting voters' choice, cheating in elections, growing the welfare state
"These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities—And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports—And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!”
The boogeymen(Democrats and immigrants) have been identified and the Nazis are ready to strike all the blue cities across the country The Civil War is on
Protest Protest Protest Bring neighbors friends relatives This is how WE the People fight fascism
Dr., Assuming by your name that you are "safe" - ie a white male 2+ generation US Citizen, kudos for protesting and representing those at risk (or simply at work w little time to protest!)
May I suggest: Learn how to identify, report (on apps or Signal groups) and Document Fed Agents, esp the often not in uniform ICE agents (in LA they're usually masked and brandishing high power weapons) and their unmarked vehicles. Know Your Rights (and a little Spanish helps)
We need to organize, get to know our local groups, who are the helpers, what are our rights etc. From Legal resources, to Food delivery to folks too fearful to go out to shop, to which Hospitals are standing up to protect against ICE, to groups that schedule "safe" volunteers to sit at Home Depot parking lots, groups watching outside Federal Buildings to make life hard for the Gazpacho, groups checking the DHS detainment lists to find lost loved ones. Groups of volunteers who go to Immigration Court, because the Regime is sending out notices to immigrants to entrap them, giving them court dates, where they show up and have their cases, sometimes Decades old, Cancelled right in front of them, then turn around and find some ICE goons waiting to drag them away from their "legal" spouse and children, and businesses and LIFE. Groups finding new housing and support for families that have lost their main breadwinner. Groups standing near schools to keep ICE off the property... The list goes on.
That's what is happening in Los Angeles, where this "war on the enemy within" was launched. Half our people are Latino. Over 5,000 Angelenos are known to have been abducted and are Gone, some deported, some sitting in detention, some whose whereabouts are still unknown. Others may have been taken unknown. Probably women.
This is where the RW wants to launch its redification campaign. They long to control California. Not just for revenge. For MONEY and Land and resources and for the Pacific Rim and the Port of Los Angeles and the Marines and the Navy and the Universities. and the KNOWLEDGE.
But CA made its deal with the devil long ago. The Military Industrial Complex built this economy. It built Silicon Valley and its taking it back. The Oil and War Barons. The Issas and the McCarthy's. They don't seem to understand that if they get it, all of that wealth will rot on the vine.
LOTS of red money here, between the RE and PE crowd, like RINODINO Rick Caruso, and the OC $$$, and SD 's War Industry ... not to mention what's happening at China Lake (Tech MIC takeover w Private prison to boot...) and the Resnick's stranglehold on our states Water (Big Ag meets Aipac. Boycott WONDERFUL pistachios and almonds. Add it to the list)
The coup of CA is happening before our eyes, but of course the Dems are acting as if CA has always been "safe blue" and always will be. (We need help with Proposition 50 that will allow our Leg to suspend the "neutral" districting committee and redraw 5 districts to counter the Texas 5! Volunteers needed!)
Well, we seniors know better. I got out here to attend UCSD as Reagan was entering the White House. As a student I experienced how he had gutted funding for the UCs and All education.
But I studied Communications under Herb Schiller, and Chinese Studies under Richard Madsen, Paul Pickowicz and others. I learned how to identify the Manufacturing of Consent, and the signs of concentration of wealth and power. I will keep on trying to fight it. But Man it's tiring.
Good for the Portland police for speaking the truth. THAT needs to be reported by mainstream media.
we support Zorhan!! I also called US Capitol and left Jeffrey's and Schumer a message and said if they folded and funded this administration without getting our Medicaid back and STOP FUNDING ICE THEY WILL BE VOTED OUT!!💯
No longer a significant mass murder. It doesn't fit the narrative.
The generals never understood fully why 'reformed drunk' secretary of war Pete Hegseth convoked them to the US Marines base at Quantico, Virginia, within a crow's flight from Trump in Washington. It is obvious he want to ' bring them into line' MAGA like Congress, the Supreme Court, the civil bureaucracy, media, universities, local governments. A US version of Hitler's 'gleichschaltung'. Trump loves military parades. Will he lead his 'generals' like the snake oil huckster Harold Hill. in 'Music Man' in a grand parade, in lockstep, with '76 trombones' up Constitution Avenue?
“Reformed Drunk” since when? Last I checked he was still drinking to excess!
Re: the bromance displayed by Bibi and Donald. Nauseating show. Still ignores the two state solution. But Medhi, what's the big deal about pronunciation of "abraham" in the Abraham Accords reference. Trump couldn't settle on one pronunciation. Even Bibi said something about it. What's up?
Most people don't understand the animus evangelicals and other conservative Christian denominations have for Mormons. I was born Mormon in 1967 and left the faith in 2012. Evangelicals in the town I grew up in in CA demonized us from the pulpit on the regular and refused to acknowledge we were even Christian. Even though Mormons doctrinally and politically fit solidly within the Christian right. I read the Bible in church every week and we revered Joseph Smith as a prophet, but never remotely equal to Jesus. Christ was the center of our religion and always infinitely superior to Smith. Right now I'll bet you there is a nervous huddle-up going on among President Trump's advisors, trying to decide if they should tell him to not refer to Mormons as Christians, after he endorsed them as such in his initial war on Christians post. To someone with my background, it looks a lot like a retaliatory act against Mormons for Kirk, inflamed by all the rhetoric of the need to destroy the perpetrators of political violence. I don't think we've seen the end of evangelical violence against mormons in retribution for Kirk, if indeed that's what it was.
Ah, never thought of that. That's very frightening. The willingness and readiness to take lives in vengeance. The commonality in all the violence is the splintering of our people into so many shattered, digitally sourced, astroturfed communities. On the one hand rendering the "free thinkers" on the left unable to organize any strength in numbers, on the other hand creating these lone wolf men who hate life and can only find meaning in "snuffing out" the "enemy"
Man I hate the internet. but here we all are...
Next week when you do this I hope that you’re going to address this “Gaza deal” this administration pushing… because of how they have been acting I worry that the ulterior motives will be to use that peace deal to still serve Israel, demolish Gaza (immediately after they get the rest of the hostages), and then use that one good deed of stopping the genocide/starvation/slaughter to further push the domestic fascistic crap & then not allow the UN or ICC to further investigate Israel for The Hague to hold bibi and his minions accountable. I tend to not trust things that seem too good to be true, especially with the grotesque antics the people in charge of these two countries have shown they double-down on doing.
The "latest" Gaza deal I've been hearing about is one where Tony Blair heads up some kind of commission to rebuild Gaza. I can't think of a worse person for the job. He is, after all, a war criminal partly responsible for the invasion of Iraq.
Yeah I saw something about that too and I wanted to rip my hair out. And liberal d-bags have given the Iraqi-war criminals, lying and “torturing some folks” ppl all this cover to pretend they haven’t paved the way to this insane shit. That is exactly why I’m hoping Prem and Mehdi will go over it and take questions about it cuz I have want the suffering and genocide to end and I’m terrified those ppl will set things up to make things worse once those hostages are all released. I mean they’re passing a law to start executing Palestinian prisoners now too.
Listening to this, loving it but got me wondering, who has deeper pockets than AIPAC... I am not an American, but wondered what would happen if a group was formed with as deep pockets, who could counter their influence, advance progressive ideals. The trick would be TO limit influence so that this does not become as corrupt a situation as already exists???
I keep seeing Zeteo referenced by other independent journalists. You’re definitely getting out there!
Stop labeling killers as right or left
Use the tragedies as a call for gun control
Why can't my fellow Democrats see that obstructing fascists isn't a bad thing? Democracy requires debate, argument, and compromise in order to serve the will of the people. The current so-called "governing" party believes in none of these, therefore, the Democrats' main job is to block the works and get the "GOP" out of power.