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Mehrdad's avatar

Just like when the NAZI Germany was on the march and attacking its neighbors, the ZioNAZI regime has not been any different.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

No that is not true. Nazi Germany first attacked it own people. It exterminated all Jews, Homosexuals, and members of certain Christian groups before it even started its quest to conquer all of Europe and basically split the world with Japan. Israel has the right to defend itself against radical followers of Islam who want to destroy it. Just like the USA had the right to defend itself against Nazi Germany and totalitarian Japan during World War II.

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Mehrdad's avatar

Well I guess that is the version of the history that is thought at the Zionist schools. If Germany exterminated all Jews before they started to invade other countries, then who where those in the Auschwitz?

Israel has become the Nazi Germany, they have been systematically killing Palestinians since 1948, attacking their neighboring nations and currently in the middle of their 'final solution' of Palestinian people. Israel as a criminal State has lost ANY rights to exist and if there were any justice in this world, they would have by now facing Nuremberg style trial.

Your defense and whitewashing of this genocide is absolutely shameful.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Germany exterminated their Jews but they of course were not the only country that had Jews. The USA and England also have Jewish populations and they were never conquered by Germany or Japan. I am not sure what your point is. There are also Jews in South America and Australia again these countries were never conquered by the Axis powers in World War II. Russia was actually on our side during world two and their jews survived. There are over three million Jews living in Russia still today. I am not defending a genocide and I not confused like you seem to be about the history of World War II or any other history. If you do not even know the actual history of World War II then how can we trust you to tell us other history?? Anyone reading this do not take my word or Mehrdad's word on anything, check it out for yourself and you will see I am telling the truth and Mehrdad is clearly uninformed about actual historical events.

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Mehrdad's avatar

I am not going to play the semantic game with you here.  The fact and history show us that Germany started the ethnic cleansing of the Jews in Germany prior to the war, what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza and to some extent in the West Bank, and then extermination of Jews in Europe during the war and again to a great extent what Israel is carrying out in Gaza.   The extermination of Jews did not take place on day one nor in one day and this is the same situation in Gaza.  Your tacit support of this genocidal regime in Israel amounts to the same as supporting the German regime in 1939-41 and that is shameful.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

What is shameful is YOU who are twisting my words to imply I am supporting genocide. I know I am stating my views and if people do not like them it is not FAIR to accuse me of all sorts of horrible things. That is a lazy and unethical way of arguing any point accusing someone of some horrible thing they did not say because the accuser is too lazy to make a logical argument. Again I urge people to do their Own Research on the Internet and find out for themselves what is going on. I do need to take the lazy way out and falsely accuse anyone of condoning genocide. I have pointed out what I believe to be the genocide going on in China against followers of Islam. One reason for this is that it personal to me, maybe not to you, so you do not care. That is fine but do not harasss me about sticking up AGAINST THE POTENTIAL GENOCIDE OF SOME OF MY ANCESTORS!!! IN China. This has nothing to do with Jews in Germany or anything that happened in the past, it is what is happening right now. What is happening is the Genocide of followers of Islam in China, I do not care that you do not care about that situation. It is possible my own relatives are being genocided by the government of China so obviously I care about this and I can bring this up.

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Mehrdad's avatar

I am done with denialism, distraction and deflection. Go debate the flat earth if you think every deflection and distraction warrants a response.

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A stands for privacy's avatar

As someone living in germany and had to spent hours and hours in school with the holocaust you are talking shit. Wenn du keine ahnung von der geschichte hast, dann halt einfach deine fresse. Dieses andauernd blödsinnige erfinden von nicht- existenten historischem kontext.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

I do not care that you spent hours in school in Germany. I not only spent hours studying the issue I have ancestors in Lithuania that were murdered by Nazi's. Of course the German's were the ones responsible for the whole thing in the first place so I do not see how they can be trusted. Did you ever study publications written by actual survivors, not descendants of the people who actually committed these atrocities???? Do you think they are the best ones to know about this. I would take the word of people who were actually being persecuted over any of the descendants of the people did actually did the horrible thing in the fist place. Not to say they are lying there are Germans who have documented this and were brave enough to tell the truth even if their own ancestors were responsible for the horrible crimes. I applaud those people for their honesty and integrity. Again I do not know what you read but there is plenty of information on the internet where you can read the actual accounts, do not rely on me, do your own research, whoever is reading this post.

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A stands for privacy's avatar

So much text repeating the same thing lol. I referred to your reply saying "all jews were exterminated in germany" which is so hilarious and obv wrong. Next time try to read a text slowly then maybe you will understand

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A stands for privacy's avatar

If they killed all jews then why do they still exist? Germany began conquering poland while still doing the holocaust. And Israel is a terrorstate targeting directly unarmed palestinian civilians and ethnic c. them like in the westbank where they destroy palestinian homes. The whole middle east got fucked up after the so called christian nations aka england and the us decided to rape the middle east. Muslims were never the problem, its your type of pigs

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Jews exist because Germany did NOT WIN. The USA had Jews because Germany never occupied the USA, the USA fought against the Germans in World War II, how could you not know that??? Do you know about Pearl Harbor which started World War II, did you know that the Germany declared war on the USA at the same time Japan declared War on the USA? They were allies, they fought on the same side in World War II, how could you be so ignorant about history????

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A stands for privacy's avatar

What has pearl harbor to do with the context 😂 i cant

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

There are Jews in England. England was also AGAINST GERMANY AND WAS ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE USA. THERE ARE Jews in Russia. Russia was Against Germany and on the Same Side as the USA in World War II. We beat them, we won, they lost, THAN GOD FOR THAT!!!

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Sb's avatar

Absolute distortion of reality and history. The hasbara lie and the Hollywood propaganda and the cynical bs that Israel a nuclear power created, existing and designed to destroy lives across the world-a genocidal, criminal, genocidal state. Be it Chile 1973 or the pact with the Nazis in 1933, to exterminate and persecute its own people. The evidence is there if you are honest enough.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Again I am not talking about Israel, I never said anything about Israel so why are you bringing up irrelevant information???? I am talking about what is going on in China. As far as Israel is concerned I urge people to do their research on the issue of Israel and decide for themselves what is happening in Israel, I trust people can research on their own, they do not me and they do not need you telling them what to think. TRUTH TO POWER!!! Same thing goes for China, do your research. Why does my suggestion for people to do their own research and make their own decisions based on that research BOTHER YOU SO MUCH???? Why would you not want people to do their own research??? I do not get it????

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Who are you and why are you here? The comments here are related to the attached article and video, which has nothing to do with China. You are taking up way too much space.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

I am not talking about China anymore, that discussion ended a while ago. However, since you are asking about it you obviously read the entire conversation or you would know why it is relevant. I suggest you reread the entire conversation if you are that interested about it. Now I am talking about other issues I do not need to repeat myself to you. Elena

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

You obviously are welcome to read the conversation but I am done with the topic unless you have specific questions you want to ask me about it.

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Sb's avatar

You are an example of the arrogant, entitled zionazi that claims superior historical knowledge and victimization. I was married to a descendant of a Lithuanian jew and son of German jews. Stop taking space with hasbara diatribes.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. I could care less who you were married to that is your own problem. I am married to a really nice Christian man whose ancestry is from Western Europe by the way, So What does that prove???? NOTHING!! I do not care what you stupid husband ever said or did why should I??? You really are a Moran bringing up something so irrelevant to our current discussion. IF you married a jerk that is your problem not mine in any way, I do not need that information nor do I care one tweet who you married and whether or not they were a jerk, that has nothing to do with what we our discussion. Now leave me alone and stop telling me about your personal life which I have no interest in whatsoever.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Honestly why should I care less about who you married and whether or not you had a good marriage or not????. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THAT AT ALL I DO NOT NEED THAT INFORMATION IT SERVES NO PURPOSE TO WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING!

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Paco Noriega's avatar

Violence and terror are Israel’s only currency; not international law, not diplomacy, not mediation, not respect for human life. There is no red line for Israel, no law it will not breech, no norm it will not trample, no act too depraved or barbaric for its occupying army or settler militias. No child, woman, or man are off limits, even babies considered legitimate targets. The Israeli Prime Minister and his coalition government of extremists believe they can get away with murder, with genocide against the Palestinian people because there has not been any accountability for their horrific crimes.

The USA, UK and Germany could stop them but won’t because of the profit they are gaining from the war!! Every single politician is complicit and a spineless puppet if they don’t speak up to uphold the international law!

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Omar E's avatar

Trump previously misled the Iranians during nuclear negotiations, creating a diversion while Israeli forces launched attacks. Now, a similar tactic appears to be playing out with Hamas. However, this time, the attack occurred in Qatar—home to the largest U.S. military base in the region—raising serious questions.

If the Arab world does not take a firm stance to deter Israel's actions, other countries in the Gulf and beyond could find themselves next in line. The Abraham Accords should be reconsidered, and nations like Egypt and Jordan might need to reevaluate their normalization agreements.

Only then might the United States be compelled to rein in its regional ally to avoid pushing the Arab world further toward strategic partnerships with Russia and China.

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Phonira's avatar

Zionism is showing its true colours…

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Aisha Sheikh's avatar

I’m shocked but not surprised by Israel. What frustrates me more is the lack of reaction from the surrounding countries. Do they not know they are next?

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Two things are clear to ME, at this point: First, Israel has NO interest in any kind of "peace" or "cease fire" plan with Hamas. Their genocidal ethnic-cleansing campaign must NOT be interrupted. Second, the real terrorists are in Tel Aviv and they are ALL Israelis, their sights set on Greater Israel. The US is being used and Israel is NO ally.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

Now the world is learning about how it feels to be someone, individual, state or nation that is "in the way" , becuae you are not one of them. It can be because you are not white, are not willing to bow to a fearful leader, or because you actually can evaluate safe, moral and effective action, in the world. Nothing is more dangerous than that last category. People of Israel, consider using that last criteria for control of your cooperation with your government. You can just say no more.

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Momin's avatar

The EVIL has crossed all red lines !! Even more outrageous is the complicity of USA.

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Protect the Vote's avatar

Kars for Kids: Part of the American Jewish Propaganda Machine(AJPM)

The Jewish AIPAC(American Israel Public Affairs Committee) knows how to throw their weight around They terminated Jamaal Bowman’s political career and then later Andy Levine a Jewish fellow who made the mistake of going counter to the AJPM

The Kars for Kids ad that frequently shows on MSNBC is a front for the American Jewish community, a nonprofit that raises funds for youth development, educational, and mentoring programs by accepting car and property donations How much of that money goes back to the motherland to fund the Israeli genocide?

It’s great that prominent Jewish celebrities like Jon Stewart and Peter Beinart to stand up against the AJPM and voice their criticism of the Israeli government about the Israeli country’s Holocaust of the Palestinian people Even mass protests are occurring in Israel against this horrific humanitarian atrocity being waged against the Palestinians Zohran Mamdami has even bridged this cultural gap with the NY Jewish population who have supported his candidacy for NY mayor The DNC should pay attention and not be influenced by such people as Simon Rosenberg(Hopium Chronicles substack channel….consider not supporting)

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Joan Fregapane's avatar

A Harris/Walz administration would have been more open to sanctioning Israel and pressing for a Palestinian state. A Trump return was always going to be a worse disaster for the Palestinian people. Trump’s blind allegiance to Israel is based mostly on those Huckabee fans who are for some reason excited for these ridiculous ‘end times.’

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Harris had her chance and didn't take it; she didn't give an inch. Both parties are corrupt, bought & paid for by AIPAC. Let the whole House of Cards collapse. ISRAEL OUT OF THE US, our politics, our banks, our universities, etc., ad nauseam.

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Nancy's avatar

Nonsense. The Biden Administration had plenty of chances to sanction Israel. Instead, it armed Israel, vetoed any attempts by the U.N. to hold Israel to account, and criticized students and other protesters. Biden even lied about seeing photos of Israeli babies beheaded by Hamas. That statement had to be retracted by the White House, as there were no such photos. (Feel free to research reports of this in the MSM). Harris continued to criticize protesters during her campaign. I will never forgive the Democratic Party nor its apologists for this betrayal.

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Virma's avatar

I’ve begun to think that when Israel feels totally wrong-footed in international relations, that they drop good old American bombs on one Arabic country or another.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Hamas is a terrorist organization that engages in murders of its enemies all the time. If Hamas stops assassination attempts on its enemies then it can complain when its enemies seek revenge against it. As Christ said (I know you are not Christian but please bare with me on this) HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAN THROW THE FIRST STONE!!! against a women who cheated on her husband. At the time only women could be stoned to death for this offense, men could do it whenever they wanted to without consequence. Elena

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Ellie Kaoud's avatar

What? Israel has been killing Palestinians for 77 years! The Palestinians welcomed them into their homes when barely any European countries would accept them. This is an EVIL state and so are you for supporting them. Resistance is NOT terrorism. It’s resistance against an occupying force. What would Jesus say about the genocide of the Palestinian people? I know what he would say but I don’t think you do.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

The Palestinians did not welcome Jews into their homes, if that is true cite your source. Certain CHRISTIAN Palestinians DID this, but certainly not followers of Islam. I bet you did not even know that there were Christian Palestinians who are also being persecuted by Palestinians who follow Islam. They exist and yes they often support the Jews because when the followers of Islam took over the Christian in Israel before the Jews reclaimed them they ran pigs trough the Christian and refused to let Christians prey there. Yes many European countries refused to let Jews in their country, they also refused to let followers of Islam into their countries and even certain Christian groups like the Latter day Saints and Seventh Day Adventists. So? this just proves their prejudice against all these groups and you are idiot for bring this up in the first place because it just shows how prejudice people can be against certain groups, not just Jews.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Again followers of Islam in Christian Europe were also abused and expelled from the Christian countries. This happened in Spain and also Romania where some of my ancestors came from. Fortunately my Romanian ancestors were Christian so they were not the ones being expelled.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Christian holy places in Israel, which the Christian were prohibited from praying at by the followers of Islam!!!

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

More bullshit. Get lost.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

Did not your mother teach you not to swear, either out loud or in writing? I guess not. If you do not like what I am posting you do not have to read it. I am not here to please you in any way whatsoever. I am here to discuss the issues that are presented in this form by Zeteo. You are not them. I know BM is in charge of this whole thing and if he wants me to refrain from posting on this message board he can tell me himself on this message board. He does not need you are anyone else to speak for him. I have never met him personally but I assume he is a grown man fully capable of speaking for himself if he has any problems whatsoever with what I am posting.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

he does not need you OR anyone else to speak for him. I look forward to talking to him about any of these issues or if he does not want me to post or whatever he wants to discuss, but he has to do it himself, obviously.

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Delete "Hamas" and insert "Israel is a terror state...." You are spouting BS.

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