In a conversation with Mehdi for her new contributor segment at Zeteo called ‘Unshocked,’ Jewish activist, academic, and author Naomi Klein calls for an “exodus from the ideological shackles of Zionism.”
Naomi also reacts to Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu comparing student protesters at Columbia University to Nazis, telling Mehdi that when it comes to Netanyahu, “there is nobody more adept at exploiting Jewish trauma, historical trauma, and turning it into a political weapon for his own advantage.”
Mehdi also opens up to Naomi about why he decided to boycott the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.
“I can't call out what Israel is doing to Palestinian journalists with American-made bombs and then go to a fun, comedy-type dinner with the President of the United States — who's not just responsible for that, but is also not even acknowledging it,” Mehdi tells Naomi.
In 2007, Naomi wrote The Shock Doctrine, a best-selling book that explains what happens when a national crisis throws citizens into a state of shock and how the powerful exploit those moments.
Although it may be one of her most popular books, Naomi tells Mehdi that she dreams of a day where The Shock Doctrine will no longer be relevant, where people can stay grounded even in times of chaos.
“The idea for calling this segment ‘Unshocked’ — it's not to communicate a kind of world weariness, like nothing can shock me… It's the idea of what I'm hoping we can do together, which is yank us out of shock through analysis, facts, history, and really rooting us in reality,” Naomi explains.
Look out for ‘Unshocked’ with Naomi Klein every month, where she and Mehdi provide deeper analysis on various topics related to current events, religion, politics, ideology, and more. To sign up, click your profile icon in the top right corner of the Substack page, go to “manage subscription,” and scroll down to select.
So powerful to have these two public thinkers in conversation with one another. The politico-religious arguments Klein offers are so powerful, and I love the idea that we have more of these kinds of debates in a multifaith democracy where we show how our beliefs and covenants connect to political issues.
"Secular" doesn't need to mean "without religion" - it simply means that we know how to pull out the best philosophies and commitments within our faiths to share those principles and practices with others, to the benefit of all. So grateful this conversation happened.
Naomi always has "fresh eyes" on certain topics and finds meanings others may have missed. I love that she discovered what Montague had to say about Zionism. There is more truth than fiction in that reasoning, and his dire warnings seem to have come true.
Lovely, Mehdi, Thank you for all that you do, you are absolutely amazing ❤️❤️❤️
Student protests may be the most potent movement to halt the genocide in Gaza. They require greater awareness and public support to persist as needed. The establishment is already targeting students to vilify them and quickly suppress this dissent.
Great addition to the channel
This is the way to discuss issues--in depth, no rushing to a close for an ad break.
I was wondering if it would be fair to compare Zionism to Manifest Destiny, both being rationales for imperial mandates.
A phrase CNN uses all the time is "Guess we'll have to leave it there." The right-wing guest issues a torrent of lies, the host pauses, looks at the clock and says, "Well, thank you very much, guess we'll have to leave it there."
i loved this discussion. I loved how Naomi turned the tables, so to speak, and interviewed Hassan. So many interviews are like autopsies. This one was more of a dance. Bravo!
The two of you are utterly fabulous!!
Excellent conversation. Bringing Naomi in is definitely a plus. The Zionist propaganda is amazingly effective. If anyone can get us past it, it’s Jewish voices.
The Netanyahu government is a disgrace and it will soon be gone. It is not the lasting face of Israel or the historical face of Israel. To speak as if this corrupt government is the meaning of Israel and Zionism is simplistic and wrong.
The reason there was Zionism is because Jews were being murdered in pogroms and then in a historical genocide during ww2 when no one came to defend them. There were no college protests to defend Jews.
Is the reason people became zionists not important? People didn’t out of nowhere decide to leave their homes to go live in a foreign land.
Meanwhile, the college protests are as if scripted by Netanyahu. This division may lead to Biden losing which means Trump will be the next president. That is the real danger.
DM Brooklyn, more Gaslighting? To disparage students sacrificing themselves in an effort to stop an ongoing genocide is pathetic, to say the least. To be fair, it’s despicable as it’s intended to defend the indefensible; justifying the disproportionate reaction of fascists aggressors that persist in using 10/7 as a pretext to justify what they wanted all along; kill all Palestinians; not just the pesky ones that have opposed the theft of their homeland, violation of their rights, apartheid , brutality and more; for over 7 decades. Palestinians never consented to Imperialist British Mandate and/scheme.
If a terrorist hides in a school, would we condone bombing and starving teachers, students and neighbors in an insatiable quest for revenge?
To debate the moral depravity of fascist Zionist Israel is likely offensive to people of goodwill and a contrived distraction from needed action to stop what Dr Bandy X Lee refers to as a ‘death spiral’ in which (modern) humanity finds itself. (This modern madness is led by profit-seeking oligarchs who want even more; their demagogues, sycophants and many vulnerable cult followers.) I regret lacking the patience needed to help de-program gullible cult followers, a worthy/needed mission that requires training and extraordinary patience, as well as free health care for all.
We must support the BDS movement, one that toppled the U.S. supported apartheid in So Africa. If Zionist Biden prefers to continue defending the indefensible genocide we may be obligated to call for him to step-aside. Hopefully, VP Kamala Harris will demand her Zionist mate to shut up while she does the right thing; demand a cease-fire, end non humanitarian aid to Israel, etc. Being antiZionist is not antisemitic; it’s humanistic.
Robert, you hit the nail on the head, I couldn't agree more with your description of how things really are. Time to stop giving a pass to the present Israeli government. Besides, most of the Israeli population agree with what is going on and want it to continue. Shameful.
Would you say that America from 2016 to 2020 during the reign of Donald Trump was a fascist country. No I doubt it. Being governed by monstrous people who barely won does not make Israel a fascist country.
And don’t reply until you can know the difference,
"This division may lead to Biden losing which means Trump will be the next president. That is the real danger."
Yes, I am worried that Biden might lose. Do you think Biden is worried that Biden might lose? Because if he was, he might bring himself more in alignment with the MAJORITY opinion in this country in support of an immediate cease-fire. If Biden was worried about losing, he might pay more heed to the views of young people, who are a critical constituency essential to winning. But if he ignores all these loud and obvious warnings and continues on the path he's on, shipping 2000 pound bunker-buster bombs over to Israel on the regular, and then he loses, whose fault is that? Why, it's the protesters fault, of course!
I see Biden’s approach changing. I think he is paying close attention. I also know that the Mid East issue is much bigger than Gaza. I think you know that too.
You're satisfied with what Biden is doing, other people are not satisfied. I don't what more there is to say than that.
If we were talking about people who are upset about gas prices, you'd probably agree that Biden needs to use whatever policy tools he has available to keep gas prices down before the election to increase his chances of winning. As opposed to yelling at people who are upset about gas prices that they really shouldn't be so upset and also IT WILL BE ALL THEIR FAULT if Biden loses.
Wonder why the approach is so different on this issue?
I respectfully disagree with your premise. The protests have arisen out of desperation and a sense of complete loss of hope that our elected leaders will actually do anything to stop the bloodshed. Despite the very real risk of Trump getting reelected, thousands of Americans with a good conscience simply cannot excuse Biden for his fundamental role in funding and enabling this ongoing genocide, damn the consequences.
Oof! Biden’s actions regarding Israel are reprehensible. It is tragic that this is our choice. Our politics have been dragged so far right! But we didn’t land here yesterday. Democrats and Republicans alike have been co-opted by wealth, as have been many of our institutions of higher learning. We can’t solve this by letting ourselves tilt into trumpian fascism. The consequences will damn us all.
“Damn the consequences” says it all. Shame on you. You bring on the opposite of what you want. We and the Palestinians will suffer.
In ‘68 the protesters in Chicago led to 8 years of Nixon and many more years of the Vietnam War.
DK Brooklyn, focus on the issues rather than indulge in personal attacks. Otherwise, MEHDI ought to ban you from his platform. Intimidation is not an appropriate substitute for persuasion. This space needs to be respected.
Please show me where I have made a personal attack? If saying “shame on you” for advocating we “damn the consequences” is a personal attack I think we need to have a conversation on what is personal.
Do you really believe we should not be concerned about the consequences of actions? I think the consequences is the point of taking action.
And please, were you really intimidated by my comment? Do you think i was disrespectful to you? Is this the kind of comment that should get someone blocked? Really?
My parents were Holocaust survivors. I was born in a DP camp, a refugee camp. That was a genocide that lead to the death of 6 million Jews. Most of my family was murdered by Nazis and yes even Poles. Even though the war war over in eastern Poland my family and others who had returned to their shtetl were still being murdered by Poles who wanted their homes. So they walked across Europe to get to the boats in eastern Italy that were taking Jews to then British Palestine. They were stopped at the Czech border by General Patton…and eventually after 5 years got to America despite the long standing quotas that kept Jewish Holocaust survivors out of this country
But they wanted to go to get to the British Manndate of Palestine because they saw it as the place where long persecuted Jews could be safe.
This conversation between Mehdi, whom I have long admired and Naomi Klein, also long admired is based upon a false and fantastical premise. How is it that when Netanyahu, Ben Gvir and Smotrich say “from the river to the sea” that it is proof of genocidal intent, but when Medhi, Klein and all those other protesters blithely spout “from the river to the sea”, that it is merely a harmless metaphor?
It is NOT a harmless metaphor. It means to destroy Israel as a Jewish state. There are 7 million Jews in Israel. It certainly is a slogan that can also lead to violence. There is no room there for a two state solution. And a one state solution is nigh impossible and a recipe for oppression and violence by each community against the other.
And I bet far too many in these protest demonstrations are being led to wrongly believe , by people who should know better, that it is not a harmless metaphor, it is not a harmless slogan .
Thanks for sharing your family story and the lesson.
Thank you for your posts. In this venue it took a bit of courage.
By the way I am also disappointed that I don’t see posts about what is happening in this country. America. What about Trump and his incipient fascism? I valued what Mehdi had to say about that and hope he starts to do that again.
DK Brooklyn,
I think your question about what propelled the desire for a safe homeland is an important one. The hundreds of years of anti-Semitism in Europe make that question an important one to me. I do think student protests are important in this moment, and that they’re being used as an excuse to crack down on free speech and protest. I hate falling into old binaries and arguments in a moment when we want to think more deeply. And, like you, I want Zeteo comments to be as historically-driven as Mehdi’s work. I don’t want us to fall into easily laid traps and want to respect that there are some complexities in your argument that ought not be reduced or dismissed.
In your eyes, has Zionism been an effective method? And, has Zionism been the best strategy for creating safety for Jews globally? Elsewhere, Mehdi and others have argued that the history and reality of political Zionism have a lot to show us about who urged it, and who continues to benefit most from it today. In the US, evangelical Christian Zionists, funded by dark money forces (billionaires), are leading this political moment behind the scenes and using Jews as a smokescreen for their nefarious efforts. I want a safe place for Jews, but the story of safety that a traumatized people have been sold has justified more genocide and that is horrifying. Jews and Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians are both religious and genetic cousins. The history of colonization, racism, of whitening Jews, or demonizing Islam, of the creation of Europe, of all this really ought to be teased out to help us arrive at a terrain of debate that doesn’t shy away from its complexity. And, complexity can also help bring ethical, political, and social clarity to which answers will NOT save us.
I appreciate your willingness to engage and I hope that others here will take the valid and strong points you make and respond to those. I want us all to practice the difficult work of democracy. I disagree with many of your points about the value of protest, about Israeli (and US) citizens’ complicity with the Netanyahu regime, but within it I hear angst and nervousness about a potential “worst” that is yet to come. It sounds like neither of us want more Trump, and we have different ideas about how to avoid that. My ideas are to lean into the power of civic engagement and to hold steady rather than to cow to a disengaged public’s discomfort with protest. You may have other ideas. I think this platform should exist and be accessible for all of us who want to truly explore these issues with the context Naomi and Mehdi provide and take that as our point of departure. I don’t want these comments sections to become dunking/sparring sessions. I want us to think through this hard and scary moment together.
(https://youtu.be/K1VTt_THL4A?si=EUEQkoWo-8QK8aXs)
We need teach ins and learning moments. College Campuses are perfect for that.
Taking over buildings and setting up encampments changes the conversation to “keeping college safe”, etc. none students being called to join the encampments magnifies the “safety “ issue. Are we smart enough to predict what this will lead to and is it what we want. I see calls for the University President to be fired and bring in someone tougher. I see the engaged students being expelled and many might now have a hard time getting employed. It isn’t right, but that is the reality of the world we live in.
I absolutely agree that we need teach-ins and learning moments, and college campuses are perfect for that. I also wonder if the encampments and building take-overs could be a part of that kind of curriculum because there have been moments where those tactics have been incredibly impactful. I was a student organizer at USC during the early 00's and we spent so much energy trying to make meetings with administrators, writing op-eds, organizing student study groups, etc. for various social issues, and all our attempts were either ignored, swatted down, or actively undermined. I think university administrations (and other leadership) can do their part to be more responsive to student politics so we don't get to this fever pitch. I don't want to blame students for taking "last resort options" when university administrations are so dismissive of them. Especially these days, where students are seen as disposable customers, rather than civic minds.
I want everyone on campuses to be safe, as I hear you do as well. I hear you when it comes to the public perception of the encampments - I often dip into Fox News to see how stories are being spun and this one seems rife for false equivalency with Jan 6 (I'm already seeing this happen). It makes me wonder what protest and civil disobedience mean in the moment of propagandistic spin-zones. I don't think we should let our protest be circumscribed by the anxieties of the worst possible spin, and I also think it's a real consideration given our media landscape. I don't know if it's an issue of not being smart enough to predict what will come of the coverage and emerging narrative - I think it's an issue that we already know how it will be spun and many of us feel a bit helpless in that regard.
I am with you also on having concerns for students getting expelled. The fact that students are willing to risk expulsion and huge impacts on their future tells me just how important and urgent this moment is for them. I graduated college into the Great Recession and had one helluva time finding a job and that really sucked, and was so scary. It's made me maneuver workplaces a bit more conservatively since then, which is not my nature. I'm wondering if the scales are tipping, where the kinds of material security that come from respectability/degrees no longer outweighs the consequences young people see from staying more reserved in their political tactics. My work puts me in close contact with high school and college students who are very politically active, and generationally it makes me feel concerned for them, and also uncomfortable because I didn't feel I had the kind of mass peer base to protest in the way they do. I'm working hard to exercise intergenerational humility and really listen to the sense of urgency young people have about issues like Palestine, climate change, fascism, and more.
I'm also worried about who will be the next leaders in universities and the way surveillance and federal control of universities may be coming this way. Perhaps these protests are also just showing us the systems of control that have been in place for longer than we realized on university campuses, and they've eerily been in place for a while, awaiting a moment like this one to squash any kind of political uprising. I appreciate your pragmatism, and I just have a lot of questions. Thanks for engaging with me, I appreciate hearing your thoughts. I don't want us to miss where we align because we have some disagreements on strategy.
It isn’t just Fox that is turning this conversation about everything but the essence of the issue. It’s also MSNBC.
If the visual they have is someone breaking a window, it plays all day. If it is someone who looks “radical” and screams that is the loop. If they find a non-student agitator, that will be the focus. There is almost no conversation about what is being asked for by the demonstrators. The shorthand is that they are pro-Palestinian. What does that mean? What are people who hear this expected to think, let alone do?
The purpose of demonstrations is to get attention. It behoves the demonstrators to make it meaningful attention and build on it.
To get people to agree with their thought out and just cause.
Thanks for encouraging a thoughtful exchange.
Totally, fair enough. You're right - the broader coverage is not great across the spectrum.
It makes me wish that there were more support and guidance given across generations to college students protesting. We used to get some pretty significant advice about discipline and being aware of how things will play out on camera. I can imagine how much more difficult that is these days, given there are cameras everywhere. I wonder if the student activists have specific asks they've delivered to administrations - this is often the case for student leaders but that never gets covered. I wonder what would happen if there were more asks from folks like us to get more nuanced coverage. I don't even know where we can "ask" for that. I hope as this moment and story play out news and media outlets like Zeteo and others help spell that out.
I wonder if letters to the editor or developing some kind of broader letter writing campaign could start to have an impact. I'm not a media expert so don't know the specific leverage points to urge news outlets to have better coverage. I'm sure you and I both know (and are likely a bit cynical) about the profit-driven motives of media outlets these days. It's a frustrating and scary narrative landscape.
Amazing historical perspectives by Ms Klein of the Balfour Declaration and the British complicity in the creation of a thorn in ME.
A very timely discussion on the subject of Anti Semitism and Zionism
Naomi Klein is a very good addition in Zeteo's team.
Godspeed, wish you great success with the platform.
Its only a few weeks but your team is Phenomenal and continue to amaze me.
Well, to be real, Medhi is a great addition to Naomi's team, but it's all cool
Can’t wait for the Toronto debate! When is it? How can we attend virtually ?
Hi, here is the info you want:
Mark your calendars for Monday, June 17 to participate in the not-to-be-missed Munk Debate on Anti-Zionism. 7-9 pm in Toronto. We will probably have access to it on You Tube or through Zeteo at some point, hopefully!
Another fabulous, informed and thought-provoking discussion between two brilliant intellectuals! I am learning more with every interview and program. Thank you Naomi and Mehdi for sharing your insights and analyses. Keep it coming! Love Zeteo!
So refreshing to listen to 2 people who have in depth knowledge based on research & a breadth of lived experience, to inform their point of view. A much needed & appreciated example of how to approach subjects rife with mis/disinformation & deliberate divisive tactics by people with their own agenda.
The issue around Zionism discussed here is that it has a built in deflector shield in the form of Shoah. For decades all the Israeli government had to do when challenged with criticism is announce it as anti Semitism.
It appears that shield is starting to break down and why we are seeing the panic.
It was a very powerful speech for muslims too. thank you so much Naomi.
Brilliant.
I'm reminded of the fine Todd Rundgren song from his 2015 "Global" album called "Holyland"
"Every drop of rain
Blade of grass
Grain of sand
Is all the holyland
Every hill and dale
Mountain stream
Forest stand
Earth is the holyland"
https://youtu.be/VxqCFR9Nw6M
This conversation brought me as much joy as when i was a kid reading Marvel Team-Up - two superheroes uniting to confront a dastardly villain. No easy victory here, of course, but Naomi's historical references and Mehdi's thoughtful questions bring the light of hope to a dark time. Thank you for that. Looking good forward to the next chapter!
Zeteo keeps getting better.
PLEASEEEEEEE do an interview with presidential candidate Jill Stein!!!!!!
Having Naomi Klein on your team is going to make zeteo even stronger in deseminating the #truth with you than we can only imagine. I'm so happy for you and the entire zeteo team that she's on board in seeking and in enquiring the facts that embolden those who want to embrace the #truth in our society.
I love the point about activist slogans. Others can’t reinterpret what it means to the activists.
Thanks Naomi for telling the truth.
That is so exciting. Well done!!
Great exchange and wonderful positive energy! With powerful voices like Naomi’s speaking out, there is hope for a better world.
Phenomenal!!!
Zionism is barbarism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90A-OxZQgdI
Excellent and honest conversation. Dispelling the rubbish that mainstream media and the political elite try and fill our brains with. We need more voices like these! Thank you Zeteo and Mehdi!
Thank you so much from a subscribed old white guy. NBC/MSNBC to replace you with Morning Joe, hour 6? I think not.
I cancel led Peacock and signed up with Zeteo. Thank whatever entity you care to for the tiny slivers of honest journalism that we cannot still find. It's nice to have a forum that doesn't always need it to bleed to lead. Unfortunately the Palestinians are bleeding deeply right now.
Stay safe, keep up the amazing work.
Hey all. Really looking for intelligent dialog and not attacks, tropes or anger. You'll see my question about solutions at the end. I love my Jewish culture, my traditions and have loved my visits to Israel and the region. That said, I have an open mind about where Zionism it has actually gotten Jews as a people. While I see the levels of innovation in technology(no iphone or android without Israel, pharmaceuticals, drip irrigation) and the vibrant life on demonstrably ancestral lands BUT I also see extremists that don't represent me and are by their actions creating anti-semitism and horrors for others. Not in my name and practically counter productive. At the same time the region has numerous extremists such as Hamas, Hizbollah, Taliban etc. that would kill/make Dhimmi of all Jews, kill LGBTQ, ghettoize blacks (look it up) and set women back hundreds of years. In addition, it seems a two state solution is geographically impossible and Hamas literally rejects the idea. So the time has come to move beyond who did what to whom and ask the BIG question. What is the solution? If the hypothesis is that a bi-racial (an untrue term btw as they are all related) state where everyone lives in harmony, how exactly does that come to be? Who ensures peace and safety when we have groups reliving the battle of Kyhbar and others calling groups Amelek. If the Anti-zionism argument was to win out how do we avoid 7 million dead or Dhimmi jews when all the weapons are in the hands of a likely Muslim majority? We've seen how that worked out around the middle east in the Ottoman Empire?? Thoughts?
Naomi Klein speaks like no other in an incredibly eloquent and informed manner about the true profundity of the events taking place.
Excellent piece.
This is a huge moment for humanity, when we can choose to march forward hand in hand to solidify a better world for our children and the generations to come, or we can submit to extremism and revert back to ancient times of living and dying by the sword.
The only thing stopping us is pride and prejudice.
Thank you for this wonderful dialogue.
Great first episode! Point of information regarding the second Intifada though - Amos Malka, the director of Israeli military intelligence at the time revealed that 'the most moral army in the world' fired an estimated 1.3 million rounds of ammunition at demonstrators during the first few days of the uprising (which is what the term actually means), despite the fact that violence by Palestinians in the early weeks was minimal. Unsurprisingly, The ratio to Palestinians to Israelis killed during the first weeks was 20:1.
According to Shlomo Ben-Ami, "Israel's disproportionate response to what had started as a popular uprising, with young unarmed men confronting Israeli soldiers armed with lethal weapons, fuelled the second Intifada beyond control and into an all out war." Mass protests of civil disobedience broke out in September 2000. The first suicide bombing in retaliation to Israel's relentless bloodletting occurred five months later in March 2001.
The inevitable descent into violence is perhaps best articulated by military historian Robert Asprey, who wrote: "Terror is the kissing cousin of force, and real or implied, is never far removed from the pages of history. To define and condemn terror from a particular (self-serving) social, economic political and emotional plane is to display a self righteous attitude that is totally unrealistic and doomed to be disappointed by harsh facts."
And although he was writing about the Irish resistance against British occupation, he could've just as well used the exact same words for the second Intifada as he could've for Vietnam, Algeria, Iraq, Kenya, Afghanistan the list goes on.
Wonderful discussion with Naomi Klein. Great antidote to Bibi's BS.
Brilliant! Looking forward to the next one!
Even NYC mayor Eric Adams is fanning the flames, suggesting that the protestors have all been radicalized by Muslim terrorists.
Are we ever going see super intelligent, rational and fundamentally decent people in the highest political positions in the UK or US
So powerful a dialogue. Naomi's
So powerful a dialogue. Naomi's Judaism and my Christianity become one in our faith.
This is an extremely important conversation. I read her piece in the Guardian and was so impressed by her courage to call out the disaster of Zionism throughout its existence. The fact that she is a practicing Jew gives it all the more credence. I didn’t think I could love her and her always spot on voice even more. But I do. We will be blessed with her continued voice on Zeteo. This ongoing horror has to undone.
Enjoyed this, Mehdi with Naomi Klein. She’s one of my favorites also. I’ve been watching you ever since your time with the Doha Debates & all your other AlJazeera shows. Now you have freed yourself from mainstream US media & are able to discuss the topics which matter the most to you without any strings attached. Can’t wait for your Canadian debate with your partner Gideon Levy. Btw, did you do any debating while with MSNBC? I don’t remember hearing of any. You are free!!
as a former UofT alumni, I was always incredibly proud to read Naomi and her books, she had a lasting impact on campus and the Israel Apartheid Week which is organized at UofT every year was incredible in providing the context of occupation that most of us never heard about in media
Great segment, already looking forward to the next one! Will you be putting the debate in Toronto on Zeteo for us to see?
loved this conversation. Thank you so much to you both!
Amen, This is so powerful! Thank you
Excellent!
This is the first time I have heard Naomi speak and I will be buying all her books. So much insight and sound logic that really cannot be argued against. Thank you Zeteo!
Donald Trump will instigate Gilead he will be supreme commander and the handmaid's tale is his Bible 🆘 Roundup dysfunctional society 💰 terminological inexactitudes rule 💰💵 annihilation 🆘 agreed 💯
The difference between Zionism and Judaism, is the difference between the Nazi political movement and the German people. Even though Nazis had high approval ratings among Germans, at one point approaching 90%, it doesn’t make them the same. Zionism similarities with Nazism includes a racist superpower with technological superiority that dehumanized and brutalized the others. Gaza today is like Auschwitz 80 years ago. Preferred method of killing is different, to burry them alive under the rubble of their own homes. Likewise, Nazism had broad support in the west before the war, including Nazi youth camps throughout the USA. Hamas is more like the Vietcong, fighting a brutal superpower with humble means from underground tunnels.
Zeteo - Nothing Left but the Truth 💫✊…. A perfect dance of words with Naomi
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DOES MEDHI SECRETLY WEAR A SUPERMAN T-SHIRT UNDER THAT SUIT? ZETEO OF THE DAILY PLANET
Beautifully explained. Can’t wait until next month!
As usual brilliant journalism Mehdi !!! I am a fan :)
Fearmonger and liar.
@naomiklein please respond to the filth in this “opinion” piece:
https://apple.news/Ao2LHdn3sQsahFYY2bWLxZg
He was the third Jew in the Cabinet at the time, not the first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Montagu
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S N SMITH, I was unimpressed with your comment, undeserved gaslighting that sucked up oxygen that could have been used by someone who had something worthwhile to say. But constructive criticism is likely not the purpose intended; I may be wrong. Muddying the waters is good enough; creating doubt, attempting to discredit someone who enlightens; is the kind of mischief that helps our enemies at home and abroad; hope Mehdi will discourage, or ban gratuitous Gaslighting from his platform.
Just in case your not a bot: it’s best to attack issues not the person. You could not find an issue probably because debating issues would expose the vacuous and frivolous nature of the your comment seemingly meant to divide and or spread/provoke discord.
Full disclosure: I’m delighted that Naomi Klein will be a contributor. We need her now more than ever to help clarify the the contrived confusion MAGA and others promote.
👏Thanks for this ... the comment has been deleted & I am glad. Respectful discussion with a different perspective is to be encouraged, otherwise the moderators at Zeteo are right to ensure this doesn't turn into a bird-site clone of personal attacks that most of us are looking to escape👍🏾