Wow, Naz, Talia and Omar were elected by their constituents. Sadly they would have gone down in flames on the national stage because the populace has fallen victim to the fascist rhetoric of the far right. This is now what is the US, a violent, misogynistic and xenophobic nation wherein the underbelly of violence and hatred has been expo…
Wow, Naz, Talia and Omar were elected by their constituents. Sadly they would have gone down in flames on the national stage because the populace has fallen victim to the fascist rhetoric of the far right. This is now what is the US, a violent, misogynistic and xenophobic nation wherein the underbelly of violence and hatred has been exposed in its full glory. This is a nation that prefers the slaughter of its own children over gun control, the right to control a woman’s body over self determination, and the asininity of religion over rational behaviour. Don’t blame Harris for her failure to provide her base a reason to vote, the reason was there screaming madness and hate at every single rally of his. Is her “base” really that impossibly stupid? I guess so. So, Naz, grow up, put your big boy pants on and understand that there is only one element to blame and that is the voting public. They did this all by themselves. Now the world has to live with it.
First of all this is unnecessary attack on my comment. And proves my point. I’m not denying that America is a racist place. However this was not the reason Harris lost, and framing it as so is didactic (just look at Trumps voter demographics). The fact is there was no discourse on Harris as a candidate, she was weak, she was not scrutinised as there was no primaries! Biden should have dropped out earlier, the Democrats should have had a selection process, her policies should have been tested, her ability to win a crowd, her leadership none of that was put to the test. Instead we got an incumbent who only really managed to get a lot of celebrities to endorse her and had a slight bit of momentum after Trump/Biden disaster of a debate and Biden dropping out. After that her campaign went downhill - aligned herself with Chaney, she couldn’t answer a question on what she would do differently (on the view), her running mate managed to normalise JD Vance, she refused to represent a single Palestinian voice at the DNC, she got Bill Clinton to lecture us about house were wrong about Gaza … sorry buddy but looking at this through one lens is just lazy.
Of course I know she would have had a hard time trying to win America - just look at the crap Obama had to deal with. But the fact is she did not convince her base to turn up, Trump managed to get his base to turn up for him
I am very sorry for the big boy pants comment, Naz, it was not acceptable and in truth I think we are very much soul mates. (However, in my defence I am more than slightly distraught.) I care about Palestine terribly, I have a very good friend who is living in a tent on the Gaza coast with her three children. I want them alive and well. You can read her story here, https://newyorkwarcrimes.com/i-have-lived-my-life-with-only-half-a-heart. But, Naz, bringing Nour to safety is so much further away today.
With Harris the progressives in congress would have had a direct path to the Presidency. Now they have nothing; they will be hard pressed to be allowed to speak. No, Naz, the problem now is how anyone with a progressive thought will be allowed to think, let alone speak.
Already, we see Bannon literally crowing from rooftops. He has longed for this day from his university years. Nick Fuentes has now pronounced that, “Women’s bodies are mine.” Neo-Nazi forums are pondering who will be the first to rape two handmaids. Any climate action is as dead as Trump’s soul.
So, Naz, the issue is NOT what was wrong with the Harris campaign, but what IS wrong with the U.S. people. Not voting was a vote for Trump. Voting for Jill Stein (and I like her a lot) was a vote for Trump.
No, the people who made those choices didn’t think, Naz. They didn’t get back at the Dems. They didn’t make ethical choices, they made absolutely vacuous choices that will set back social causes in the country, perhaps forever. The people who did vote for Trump? Well, they are the living embodiment of what is wrong with the U.S. of A.
I think perhaps you are framing of circa 14m ppl who didn’t show up for Harris as the problem, and not looking at why those people were not motivated to vote. Biden/Harris administration has been facilitating a genocide for over a year, this is the same organisation that haven’t even restored humanity aid through UNRWA despite every single other western govt restoring it, week after week Biden press secretary lying and gaslighting to journalists. No Doug - I see no evidence that that Nour’s life and family would be improved by a vote for Harris. Please tell me how you got to the conclusion that there was any hope for even a meaningful conversation on this?
Not only this, the economy and inflation has been a big issue in America, Harris’ only comment on this when asked what she would do differently was ‘Nothing comes to mind’ …..
Her campaign was essentially ‘I am not Trump’ and I’m sorry that’s not good enough to motivate people.
The fact is the democrats tried to court republicans voters through Chaney, they were too late off the mark in selecting a replacement for Biden, they gave Harris an impossible battle (no legitimacy through a primary, no time to create a meaningful campaign with a differentiation with Biden, no clear economic strategy, nothing to showcase Palestinians voices, nothing on free speech and right to protest, nothing on how they would improve the lives of the working class, nothing on inflation). If women’s rights was the issue then why did white women vote overwhelmingly for Trump?
All the Harris/Walz campaign did have was hype and celebrity endorsement (particularly celebrities who are wealthier than god, have no crossover with average people). Trying to court republicans through Chaney. Essentially the whole campaign relied on ‘I am not Trump’ instead of why we should vote for her.
I get you’re upset because people weren’t able to think like you, but framing them as ‘the problem’ is so lazy. For some, there wasn’t a choice - Democrats need to start listening to their base, the concerns of the working people and progressives. Instead of pandering to coastal elites.
Wow, Naz, Talia and Omar were elected by their constituents. Sadly they would have gone down in flames on the national stage because the populace has fallen victim to the fascist rhetoric of the far right. This is now what is the US, a violent, misogynistic and xenophobic nation wherein the underbelly of violence and hatred has been exposed in its full glory. This is a nation that prefers the slaughter of its own children over gun control, the right to control a woman’s body over self determination, and the asininity of religion over rational behaviour. Don’t blame Harris for her failure to provide her base a reason to vote, the reason was there screaming madness and hate at every single rally of his. Is her “base” really that impossibly stupid? I guess so. So, Naz, grow up, put your big boy pants on and understand that there is only one element to blame and that is the voting public. They did this all by themselves. Now the world has to live with it.
First of all this is unnecessary attack on my comment. And proves my point. I’m not denying that America is a racist place. However this was not the reason Harris lost, and framing it as so is didactic (just look at Trumps voter demographics). The fact is there was no discourse on Harris as a candidate, she was weak, she was not scrutinised as there was no primaries! Biden should have dropped out earlier, the Democrats should have had a selection process, her policies should have been tested, her ability to win a crowd, her leadership none of that was put to the test. Instead we got an incumbent who only really managed to get a lot of celebrities to endorse her and had a slight bit of momentum after Trump/Biden disaster of a debate and Biden dropping out. After that her campaign went downhill - aligned herself with Chaney, she couldn’t answer a question on what she would do differently (on the view), her running mate managed to normalise JD Vance, she refused to represent a single Palestinian voice at the DNC, she got Bill Clinton to lecture us about house were wrong about Gaza … sorry buddy but looking at this through one lens is just lazy.
Of course I know she would have had a hard time trying to win America - just look at the crap Obama had to deal with. But the fact is she did not convince her base to turn up, Trump managed to get his base to turn up for him
I am very sorry for the big boy pants comment, Naz, it was not acceptable and in truth I think we are very much soul mates. (However, in my defence I am more than slightly distraught.) I care about Palestine terribly, I have a very good friend who is living in a tent on the Gaza coast with her three children. I want them alive and well. You can read her story here, https://newyorkwarcrimes.com/i-have-lived-my-life-with-only-half-a-heart. But, Naz, bringing Nour to safety is so much further away today.
With Harris the progressives in congress would have had a direct path to the Presidency. Now they have nothing; they will be hard pressed to be allowed to speak. No, Naz, the problem now is how anyone with a progressive thought will be allowed to think, let alone speak.
Already, we see Bannon literally crowing from rooftops. He has longed for this day from his university years. Nick Fuentes has now pronounced that, “Women’s bodies are mine.” Neo-Nazi forums are pondering who will be the first to rape two handmaids. Any climate action is as dead as Trump’s soul.
So, Naz, the issue is NOT what was wrong with the Harris campaign, but what IS wrong with the U.S. people. Not voting was a vote for Trump. Voting for Jill Stein (and I like her a lot) was a vote for Trump.
No, the people who made those choices didn’t think, Naz. They didn’t get back at the Dems. They didn’t make ethical choices, they made absolutely vacuous choices that will set back social causes in the country, perhaps forever. The people who did vote for Trump? Well, they are the living embodiment of what is wrong with the U.S. of A.
Thank you for you apology Doug.
I think perhaps you are framing of circa 14m ppl who didn’t show up for Harris as the problem, and not looking at why those people were not motivated to vote. Biden/Harris administration has been facilitating a genocide for over a year, this is the same organisation that haven’t even restored humanity aid through UNRWA despite every single other western govt restoring it, week after week Biden press secretary lying and gaslighting to journalists. No Doug - I see no evidence that that Nour’s life and family would be improved by a vote for Harris. Please tell me how you got to the conclusion that there was any hope for even a meaningful conversation on this?
Not only this, the economy and inflation has been a big issue in America, Harris’ only comment on this when asked what she would do differently was ‘Nothing comes to mind’ …..
Her campaign was essentially ‘I am not Trump’ and I’m sorry that’s not good enough to motivate people.
The fact is the democrats tried to court republicans voters through Chaney, they were too late off the mark in selecting a replacement for Biden, they gave Harris an impossible battle (no legitimacy through a primary, no time to create a meaningful campaign with a differentiation with Biden, no clear economic strategy, nothing to showcase Palestinians voices, nothing on free speech and right to protest, nothing on how they would improve the lives of the working class, nothing on inflation). If women’s rights was the issue then why did white women vote overwhelmingly for Trump?
All the Harris/Walz campaign did have was hype and celebrity endorsement (particularly celebrities who are wealthier than god, have no crossover with average people). Trying to court republicans through Chaney. Essentially the whole campaign relied on ‘I am not Trump’ instead of why we should vote for her.
I get you’re upset because people weren’t able to think like you, but framing them as ‘the problem’ is so lazy. For some, there wasn’t a choice - Democrats need to start listening to their base, the concerns of the working people and progressives. Instead of pandering to coastal elites.