This succinctly captures the power of the student movement so well: "Today, it is not just America’s cold military power that has defended and armed a genocide that the student intifada has exposed, but the nexus between the Israeli military and police brutality, as well as the lies of a media apparatus operating purely in bad faith. "
Yeah, but it's quite sad and also revealing that the media as a whole has zero interest in reporting fairly about the students. Of course, some small exceptions here and there but over all the media has been a disgrace!
The students and many people may not have realized until now but they are having a huge impact. All over Europe students set up encampments as well, even in Germany students started setting them up and are occupying universities.
A lot of people are very much discouraged but
this fight is a marathon, we just got started and the momentum is on our side.
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Robert, Palestians can’t wait. Marathons take time, training and long distance to be covered. There’s a need to peacefully ESCALATE. and end the genocidal bombing and weaponized famine and displacement, now! The dilatory tactics of Biden are shameful. and evidence of complicity. That escalation ought to include: Letters to Biden urging him to demand a permanent and immediate cease-fire. He should be asked to support rathe than disparage the student movement. Otherwise, Biden ought to be asked to resign and should be informed that if he does not, impeachment will follow—for complicity in fascist Israel’s crime of genocide.
VP HARRIS is well qualified to assume the presidency and as a woman of color she will re-energize many of those alienated by Biden.
I agree with everything you wrote and maybe I didn't word my comment clearly enough. Although I believe the fight for Palestinian liberation is a marathon, we shouldn't sit back and wait. I 100% agree with you, it is a daily fight and nonstop struggle. And the first thing we need to focus on is a ceasefire and everything that comes with it, like flooding Gaza with aid aso
But the fight for the actual liberation will take a long time and it will take a lot of effort on our part. We should be honest and clear about that, but I agree with everything you said here.
Robert, it doesn’t have to take so long once Biden & our Congress people know their toast unless they withdraw support from Israel. BDS was lethal for apartheid So Africa and can be for apartheid Israel.
Biden needs to know Zionism is a scourge for all; not antisemitic. It’s too late to educate Biden; he needs to resign and give the reins to VP Harris. Biden shot himself in the foot when chose to be complicit in genocide.
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Thank you Fatima for giving voice to the sentimiento a lot of us are feeling. "Students protesting Israel’s genocidal war in Gaza have ignited in me an electrical feeling I had almost forgotten: hope."
I needed and appreciated Fatima Bhutto’s university student protest history revisitation as a reminder and lesson on what can and has been achieved. Some of it I was unaware of. The fact that universities have such huge endowments and that they are invested in such nefarious enterprises is immoral and downright disgusting.
I’m replying to my own post from earlier today. I just read a piece from The Guardian linking Cop City with many police forces throughout the country traveling to Israel for training. Emory University in Atlanta has an eleven billion dollar endowment and the university president has been pushing for and endorsing Cop City. Observers see a connection.
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More evidence that the empire of the United States is unraveling. The students are indeed showing the world these cracks in the armor and they are taking advantage for now. It is also worth noting that there are quite a few campuses that are supporting peaceful protest. Will this be enough to sway governments as in the past? Only time will tell. I will continue to push for peace and a change in American policies through my podcasts as well. For every drop of rain, a flood may ensue, to eventually wash away the sands of corruption. I aim to be one of those drops of rain.
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Folks keep wanting to hear more about how decent people don’t like the terrorist group HAMAS.
Maybe later?
Folks certainly have condemned Oct. 7, I’m sure the majority of kids protesting feel the attack on 10/7 was heinous and that Hamas likely gets up to all kinds of S#%€ which appalls decent people.
THAT is not the point Right Now.
Seems like a lot of people want to “it’s complicated” or 2-sides-isms and maybe A-Okay with me
AFTER
The Simple Part.
Stop destroying everything and everyone in Gaza.
We all want a peaceful safe world, we just can’t go around bombing our way to it.
Israel's brazen Genocide, and not the first one either, is met with indifference from most Western leaders and celebrities. These are the same people who pontificate on Human Rights, Woman Rights, etc. It is the intellectuals in the universities who are taking a moral stand against Israel's duplicity. Surprise, the moneyed politicians and donors are not too happy about it. Over 100,000 (dead and injured) and counting, Gaza razed to the ground is just kosher. Why? As Biden, Blinken and their cohorts say, "We have shared values". Some values indeed.
The U.S. has a long history of anti-war protests going back to at least the Mexican-American War (Henry David Thoreau among others), Civil War (Union and Confederate peace groups). Spanish-American War (Mark Twain), WWI (Eugene Debs), WWII (Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, various), etc. A lot of this protest was based upon principle, some of it was based upon sympathizing or collaborating with the other "side". Most of the protestors were met with violence by the government in power at the time. Campus protests have become another avenue since at least WWII (UC Berkeley). The question is whether the campus protests of today will (in)directly effect change in U.S. imperialism and become another factor in the demise of the U.S. empire.
No, that isn’t what you criticize Hamas about. Today it is revealed Hamas spies on the Palestinians. Hamas invited this. There is much to criticize Hamas for. If the aim is to end the suffering and deaths, these one side protests are not doing it or bringing it closer yo an end.
What do you want? To win an argument with me or to get some peace? (You might not get either of these).
Sorry, I'll try to be more direct, because sarcasm is lost on some people. Does Columbia University have any share of its endowment invested in Hamas? Do they have exchange programs with Hamas? In what way is Columbia supporting Hamas, that the students would feel the need to occupy a university building to get their university to stop lending its support to Hamas?
I got your sarcasm, but you spoke the truth at the start.
What is the ultimate aim? If it is peace and a land for Palestinians than the protests need to also make clear that the future will not be a land led by Hamas. If it is just a protest about Israel it will have no impact. Israel isn’t influenced by a small (yes small percentage) group of college protesters who vilify them and ignore the evil of Hamas that promises to kill them.
Put yourself in the shoes of your foe and try to persuade them. It isn’t by totally ignoring their concerns and hyperbolically accusing them of genocide.
I think the protestors can think through how to find solutions and not just express their anger.
Hmmm... If the point is to rein in a nuclear power that has the vast superiority in weapons, military personnel & actual political power, WHY is it necessary to "both sides" every statement? We are long past the response being totally justified by the initial Hamas (unacceptable) attack ... which the Israeli authorities also have some responsibility for because they constantly promote that they have the most effective intelligence in the world & despite being given warnings from US intelligence (among others) it was still a "surprise attack" against one of the most militarily protected countries on the planet??? Hamas being terrible does not give Netanyahu & his extremist enablers a pass to kill innocent children & adults (including medical personnel, teachers, journalists, international volunteers etc.) The students protesting are right to not want THEIR place of learning to be giving financial support to a government that is misusing it to repeat the horrors that it's country was supposedly established to guard against ever happening again to a people as a "class" i.e. because just being Jewish then & now just being Palestinian
If the protests are about what they want their universities to invest in and not in finding a solution that includes land for Palestinians and peace, than it is very limited and likely a waste of good energy.
Do you really think Israel will give up their safety because of college students asking for divestments? Think bigger.
Hamas? Those fuckers that went and poked the Israeli bear and then came back and hid in their tunnels while innocent people got the shit kicked out of them? Horrible people, really, I'm selling all my Hamas stock now, I don't care how much of a loss I take on it. And that exchange program my University was doing with Hamas, we should cut that off right quick.
SteveB, your language and tone is inappropriate (to say the least) and not conducive to a meaningful debate. Trash/street talk and bullying may succeed in intimidating some, but fail to persuade. This is not your platform… your a guest and ought to act accordingly.
Hamas is a distraction, Israel’s proverbial fig leaf, a pretext to continue its genocide and enforce its apartheid White supremacy fascist state.
The 10/7 attack was despicable, but let’s not indulge in historic amnesia and overlook the suffering imposed on Palestinians. that White supremacists rather forget. Remember the adage:
If you kick a dog enough he will bite you.
Let’s no forget; Hamas killed 1200 and took 250 hostages.
Israel slaughtered 35000+ 2/3 women and children;
(about 17,000 children) an untold number remain under the rubble. Over 1 million are starving or on the verge of famine; also a war crime.
Are we okay with carpet-bombing a school if a terrorist hides in it; killing an maiming all the children, teachers and anyone else on the campus to get the one bad guy? I guess, many are; hence, the fascist surge in our midst.
I find Zionist call for Israel’s right to defend itself disingenuous. Palestinians have none?
DK: The US made bombs carpet-bombing Gaza dropped on men, women and children (14,000+ murdered) are being dropped by fascist Zionist Israel. The weaponized starvation is being caused also by the same rogue state. Gaza and Palestinians must be liberated from Israel and the racist, White supremacist Zionist Israel.
Your likely in the wrong Substack amongst others that support the carnage and infiltrated ZETEO, to undermine MEHDI’S vision.
Hope MEJDI bans your pro-genocide propaganda. from this platform
Why are private universities investing in companies that are profiting from war? Is war now an investment strategy for universities to increase funds for their students' 'education'. Seems hypocritical- not to mention, immoral.
Is America being run on the same principles of 'profit before humanity'?
These insights are so valuable in giving those of us not "involved" in any way context. My country did it's own bit in bringing down apartheid so I know that these pressure campaigns have worked, and you have to at least TRY if you have the chance to stop atrocities continuing - students have ALWAYS been at the forefront and I hope that continues. They will inherit the world we are making today so have a huge investment in the way it is run. Proud to support Zeteo in bringing these voices out - as usual, don't always agree with EVERYTHING I read & hear, but information is vital to keeping us ALL exposed to the WHY of what is taking place in various "stories"👏
Thank you for being voice to voiceless. There is another intifada happening in your own Balochistan where State mafia has subjugated local Balochs with on going violence and brutality. Please shed some light on plight of Balochs on this platform 🙏
This succinctly captures the power of the student movement so well: "Today, it is not just America’s cold military power that has defended and armed a genocide that the student intifada has exposed, but the nexus between the Israeli military and police brutality, as well as the lies of a media apparatus operating purely in bad faith. "
It appears that protests need to include the media.
Yeah, but it's quite sad and also revealing that the media as a whole has zero interest in reporting fairly about the students. Of course, some small exceptions here and there but over all the media has been a disgrace!
The students and many people may not have realized until now but they are having a huge impact. All over Europe students set up encampments as well, even in Germany students started setting them up and are occupying universities.
A lot of people are very much discouraged but
this fight is a marathon, we just got started and the momentum is on our side.
Hi friends, pls sign this petition to list individual IDF soldiers accountable on the Specially Designated Global Terrorist List: https://chng.it/sPyssnJYbF
Robert, Palestians can’t wait. Marathons take time, training and long distance to be covered. There’s a need to peacefully ESCALATE. and end the genocidal bombing and weaponized famine and displacement, now! The dilatory tactics of Biden are shameful. and evidence of complicity. That escalation ought to include: Letters to Biden urging him to demand a permanent and immediate cease-fire. He should be asked to support rathe than disparage the student movement. Otherwise, Biden ought to be asked to resign and should be informed that if he does not, impeachment will follow—for complicity in fascist Israel’s crime of genocide.
VP HARRIS is well qualified to assume the presidency and as a woman of color she will re-energize many of those alienated by Biden.
Write to Pres Biden: WH. gov
Congress Switchboard:
(202)224-3121
I agree with everything you wrote and maybe I didn't word my comment clearly enough. Although I believe the fight for Palestinian liberation is a marathon, we shouldn't sit back and wait. I 100% agree with you, it is a daily fight and nonstop struggle. And the first thing we need to focus on is a ceasefire and everything that comes with it, like flooding Gaza with aid aso
But the fight for the actual liberation will take a long time and it will take a lot of effort on our part. We should be honest and clear about that, but I agree with everything you said here.
Robert, it doesn’t have to take so long once Biden & our Congress people know their toast unless they withdraw support from Israel. BDS was lethal for apartheid So Africa and can be for apartheid Israel.
Biden needs to know Zionism is a scourge for all; not antisemitic. It’s too late to educate Biden; he needs to resign and give the reins to VP Harris. Biden shot himself in the foot when chose to be complicit in genocide.
Biden: WhiteHouse.gov
Your Congress people:(202)224-3121
PS Thank you for supporting occupied Palestine.
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Thank you Fatima for giving voice to the sentimiento a lot of us are feeling. "Students protesting Israel’s genocidal war in Gaza have ignited in me an electrical feeling I had almost forgotten: hope."
I needed and appreciated Fatima Bhutto’s university student protest history revisitation as a reminder and lesson on what can and has been achieved. Some of it I was unaware of. The fact that universities have such huge endowments and that they are invested in such nefarious enterprises is immoral and downright disgusting.
I’m replying to my own post from earlier today. I just read a piece from The Guardian linking Cop City with many police forces throughout the country traveling to Israel for training. Emory University in Atlanta has an eleven billion dollar endowment and the university president has been pushing for and endorsing Cop City. Observers see a connection.
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So glad to be a subscriber if it's helping articles like this to be written and shared
Support from Belgium universities at encampments in Brussels, Leuven and Gent.
Free Palestine!
We are on the right site of historie!
More evidence that the empire of the United States is unraveling. The students are indeed showing the world these cracks in the armor and they are taking advantage for now. It is also worth noting that there are quite a few campuses that are supporting peaceful protest. Will this be enough to sway governments as in the past? Only time will tell. I will continue to push for peace and a change in American policies through my podcasts as well. For every drop of rain, a flood may ensue, to eventually wash away the sands of corruption. I aim to be one of those drops of rain.
Hi friends, pls sign this petition to list individual IDF soldiers accountable on the Specially Designated Global Terrorist List: https://chng.it/sPyssnJYbF
Folks keep wanting to hear more about how decent people don’t like the terrorist group HAMAS.
Maybe later?
Folks certainly have condemned Oct. 7, I’m sure the majority of kids protesting feel the attack on 10/7 was heinous and that Hamas likely gets up to all kinds of S#%€ which appalls decent people.
THAT is not the point Right Now.
Seems like a lot of people want to “it’s complicated” or 2-sides-isms and maybe A-Okay with me
AFTER
The Simple Part.
Stop destroying everything and everyone in Gaza.
We all want a peaceful safe world, we just can’t go around bombing our way to it.
Another superb article, succinctly put!
Fight for justice and freedom never ends ❤️👍
Israel's brazen Genocide, and not the first one either, is met with indifference from most Western leaders and celebrities. These are the same people who pontificate on Human Rights, Woman Rights, etc. It is the intellectuals in the universities who are taking a moral stand against Israel's duplicity. Surprise, the moneyed politicians and donors are not too happy about it. Over 100,000 (dead and injured) and counting, Gaza razed to the ground is just kosher. Why? As Biden, Blinken and their cohorts say, "We have shared values". Some values indeed.
When people tell the lie — that a genocide isn't a genocide unless an entire people are "completely eradicated" — they're denying EVERY holocaust.
But there have always been holocaust-deniers in the Zionist camp.
ALL of their lies are old, and long-ago debunked.
The U.S. has a long history of anti-war protests going back to at least the Mexican-American War (Henry David Thoreau among others), Civil War (Union and Confederate peace groups). Spanish-American War (Mark Twain), WWI (Eugene Debs), WWII (Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, various), etc. A lot of this protest was based upon principle, some of it was based upon sympathizing or collaborating with the other "side". Most of the protestors were met with violence by the government in power at the time. Campus protests have become another avenue since at least WWII (UC Berkeley). The question is whether the campus protests of today will (in)directly effect change in U.S. imperialism and become another factor in the demise of the U.S. empire.
Please also criticize Hamas.
The degree of Israel’s savagery — by every possible measure — is bigger & far more “manly” than Hamas’s.
THERE’S your criticism of Hamas.
Make it last, because I’m unlikely to indulge any further attempts to whatabout a GENOCIDE.
Yeah, why aren't these students demanding their universities divest from Hamas, huh?
No, that isn’t what you criticize Hamas about. Today it is revealed Hamas spies on the Palestinians. Hamas invited this. There is much to criticize Hamas for. If the aim is to end the suffering and deaths, these one side protests are not doing it or bringing it closer yo an end.
What do you want? To win an argument with me or to get some peace? (You might not get either of these).
Sorry, I'll try to be more direct, because sarcasm is lost on some people. Does Columbia University have any share of its endowment invested in Hamas? Do they have exchange programs with Hamas? In what way is Columbia supporting Hamas, that the students would feel the need to occupy a university building to get their university to stop lending its support to Hamas?
I got your sarcasm, but you spoke the truth at the start.
What is the ultimate aim? If it is peace and a land for Palestinians than the protests need to also make clear that the future will not be a land led by Hamas. If it is just a protest about Israel it will have no impact. Israel isn’t influenced by a small (yes small percentage) group of college protesters who vilify them and ignore the evil of Hamas that promises to kill them.
Put yourself in the shoes of your foe and try to persuade them. It isn’t by totally ignoring their concerns and hyperbolically accusing them of genocide.
I think the protestors can think through how to find solutions and not just express their anger.
Hmmm... If the point is to rein in a nuclear power that has the vast superiority in weapons, military personnel & actual political power, WHY is it necessary to "both sides" every statement? We are long past the response being totally justified by the initial Hamas (unacceptable) attack ... which the Israeli authorities also have some responsibility for because they constantly promote that they have the most effective intelligence in the world & despite being given warnings from US intelligence (among others) it was still a "surprise attack" against one of the most militarily protected countries on the planet??? Hamas being terrible does not give Netanyahu & his extremist enablers a pass to kill innocent children & adults (including medical personnel, teachers, journalists, international volunteers etc.) The students protesting are right to not want THEIR place of learning to be giving financial support to a government that is misusing it to repeat the horrors that it's country was supposedly established to guard against ever happening again to a people as a "class" i.e. because just being Jewish then & now just being Palestinian
If the protests are about what they want their universities to invest in and not in finding a solution that includes land for Palestinians and peace, than it is very limited and likely a waste of good energy.
Do you really think Israel will give up their safety because of college students asking for divestments? Think bigger.
Hamas? Those fuckers that went and poked the Israeli bear and then came back and hid in their tunnels while innocent people got the shit kicked out of them? Horrible people, really, I'm selling all my Hamas stock now, I don't care how much of a loss I take on it. And that exchange program my University was doing with Hamas, we should cut that off right quick.
SteveB, your language and tone is inappropriate (to say the least) and not conducive to a meaningful debate. Trash/street talk and bullying may succeed in intimidating some, but fail to persuade. This is not your platform… your a guest and ought to act accordingly.
Hamas is a distraction, Israel’s proverbial fig leaf, a pretext to continue its genocide and enforce its apartheid White supremacy fascist state.
The 10/7 attack was despicable, but let’s not indulge in historic amnesia and overlook the suffering imposed on Palestinians. that White supremacists rather forget. Remember the adage:
If you kick a dog enough he will bite you.
Let’s no forget; Hamas killed 1200 and took 250 hostages.
Israel slaughtered 35000+ 2/3 women and children;
(about 17,000 children) an untold number remain under the rubble. Over 1 million are starving or on the verge of famine; also a war crime.
Are we okay with carpet-bombing a school if a terrorist hides in it; killing an maiming all the children, teachers and anyone else on the campus to get the one bad guy? I guess, many are; hence, the fascist surge in our midst.
I find Zionist call for Israel’s right to defend itself disingenuous. Palestinians have none?
OK, now I'm being lectured because I'm being too mean to Hamas.
Exactly. Save Gaza from Hamas.
DK: The US made bombs carpet-bombing Gaza dropped on men, women and children (14,000+ murdered) are being dropped by fascist Zionist Israel. The weaponized starvation is being caused also by the same rogue state. Gaza and Palestinians must be liberated from Israel and the racist, White supremacist Zionist Israel.
Your likely in the wrong Substack amongst others that support the carnage and infiltrated ZETEO, to undermine MEHDI’S vision.
Hope MEJDI bans your pro-genocide propaganda. from this platform
Read this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/world/europe/secret-hamas-files-palestinians.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
We'd all love to hear the plan
Why are private universities investing in companies that are profiting from war? Is war now an investment strategy for universities to increase funds for their students' 'education'. Seems hypocritical- not to mention, immoral.
Is America being run on the same principles of 'profit before humanity'?
These insights are so valuable in giving those of us not "involved" in any way context. My country did it's own bit in bringing down apartheid so I know that these pressure campaigns have worked, and you have to at least TRY if you have the chance to stop atrocities continuing - students have ALWAYS been at the forefront and I hope that continues. They will inherit the world we are making today so have a huge investment in the way it is run. Proud to support Zeteo in bringing these voices out - as usual, don't always agree with EVERYTHING I read & hear, but information is vital to keeping us ALL exposed to the WHY of what is taking place in various "stories"👏
Thank you for being voice to voiceless. There is another intifada happening in your own Balochistan where State mafia has subjugated local Balochs with on going violence and brutality. Please shed some light on plight of Balochs on this platform 🙏