Mehdi, I watched what I could of that- and all I can say is what horrid people you had to be in a room with. THIS is what MAGA is now. All Americans need to know it too! It was enlightening to me, but I’m sorry you had to face the racism and insanity.
Masterclass by Mehdi. His debate opponents, if they can be called that, show how alarmingly inadequate the American system of education has become. Both outright stupidity and cruelty walk hand in hand with fascism.
You were completely fantastic Mehdi. I was worried for your safety too. It is so frightening to hear and realise these types of people really do exist. I just wish I had one tenth of your ability to debate and argue. You are fantastic ❤️
Listened to the whole thing on the way home. Had to rewatch to see if the people “debating” you actually weren’t wearing masks. Sad how far we’ve fallen. Props to you Mehdi for holding the line, but the fact that Jubilee even reached out to people with such views to project them to such a wide audience is scary to say the least.
I couldn't believe how ill-informed, unable to communicate logically, wanting to be somehow in some rabid "in" place -- the worst of the young really sad
Yes, it seemed like a place to feel less alone and some sort of communion.
Using the same superficial media political debate analysis of winning looks rather than the policies and the building blocks of the ideas behind those. This debate tradition from legal traditions of "logic", where anything goes, about good faith quality, as long as the goal or persuasion is achieved. This is more about and zero-sum 2-person games, than a cooperative truth testing/seeking discussion, where critical thinking is accepted in both directions. I might be off-topic. Dreamer naive stuff.
Mehdi - appreciated your explanations for doing this debate. I think it was actually a good idea considering the potential audience. Unfortunately it came at a cost to you - emotionally etc. Enjoy your vacation and rest up with your family etc. Peace ✌🏼
Knowing LA it was disappointing to see these ignorant kids. However, they’re the minority. LA is a city of immigrants and children of immigrants. Even if they represented “white” people they’d still be outnumbered by a great majority and would never win politically in LA city proper and in other suburbs. There are white supremacist enclaves but again they’re fringe politically for the most part - far too many POC Republicans in LA and CA to allow idiots like those kids to gain power - which is why that fascist white supremacist Zionist POS Stephen Miller had to leave LA and CA.
Ice cream is a good panacea for so much! I also had the same concerns expressed about your safety and glad that you took measures. I didn't know about Jubilee until this 'debate', i'm not their demographic and have no interest especially after watching this. I do appreciate that you did this-the exposure was so important and impactful. I don't agree with 'not platforming' b/c I don't think that's what you did-you did a huge public service by exposing the ignorance. As a Brown woman I appreciate what you've expressed about having personal feelings about the racist attacks-I was stunned by how blatant and repetitive this was (I can only imagine what we didn't see, and frankly, glad it's not on view). Some of the results afterwards, job loss, idiot online thinking he won, etc. just speaks to the level of delusion many are in. Good to see you on The Bulwark and News Agents-first for me to see both and will definitely keep an eye on News Agents, thinking about The Bulwark. Doesn't sound like you know about the vetting-if any-fair enough.
Again, sincere thanks Mehdi. WE HAVE TO BEND THE ARC and miles to go...
I didn’t like this format. Passionate (misinformed) young kids circling an expert grown up saying poisonous things…
Yes, to our separate choirs, the champions refuted the devil, but it was polarizing and perhaps performative and entrenching.
My guess is that we have to reach each other benevolently and through back doors like debunking the sources of Christian Nationalism’s ‘information’ (oligarch funding perhaps, Us/Them tropes) rather than them theirselves and rightly desperate mis-views… on how to navigate out of a train reck culture that predated, and I would say facilitated this 2025 take over.
Mehdi - Nice haircut! Also good debate although you were the hunter and those dumbass kids the hunted. Hopefully they’ll grow up to regret their ignorance and not become a bunch of Stephen Millers!
Mehdi, I watched what I could of that- and all I can say is what horrid people you had to be in a room with. THIS is what MAGA is now. All Americans need to know it too! It was enlightening to me, but I’m sorry you had to face the racism and insanity.
Masterclass by Mehdi. His debate opponents, if they can be called that, show how alarmingly inadequate the American system of education has become. Both outright stupidity and cruelty walk hand in hand with fascism.
You were completely fantastic Mehdi. I was worried for your safety too. It is so frightening to hear and realise these types of people really do exist. I just wish I had one tenth of your ability to debate and argue. You are fantastic ❤️
Listened to the whole thing on the way home. Had to rewatch to see if the people “debating” you actually weren’t wearing masks. Sad how far we’ve fallen. Props to you Mehdi for holding the line, but the fact that Jubilee even reached out to people with such views to project them to such a wide audience is scary to say the least.
Any pointers about their sampling methodology?
I couldn't believe how ill-informed, unable to communicate logically, wanting to be somehow in some rabid "in" place -- the worst of the young really sad
Yes, it seemed like a place to feel less alone and some sort of communion.
Using the same superficial media political debate analysis of winning looks rather than the policies and the building blocks of the ideas behind those. This debate tradition from legal traditions of "logic", where anything goes, about good faith quality, as long as the goal or persuasion is achieved. This is more about and zero-sum 2-person games, than a cooperative truth testing/seeking discussion, where critical thinking is accepted in both directions. I might be off-topic. Dreamer naive stuff.
Mehdi - appreciated your explanations for doing this debate. I think it was actually a good idea considering the potential audience. Unfortunately it came at a cost to you - emotionally etc. Enjoy your vacation and rest up with your family etc. Peace ✌🏼
Great work Mehdi, nothing more satisfying than showing a group of idiots that they are.
Knowing LA it was disappointing to see these ignorant kids. However, they’re the minority. LA is a city of immigrants and children of immigrants. Even if they represented “white” people they’d still be outnumbered by a great majority and would never win politically in LA city proper and in other suburbs. There are white supremacist enclaves but again they’re fringe politically for the most part - far too many POC Republicans in LA and CA to allow idiots like those kids to gain power - which is why that fascist white supremacist Zionist POS Stephen Miller had to leave LA and CA.
I agree: they are a minority.
So they all were found from LA? I missed that part.
We’re proud of you 👍
Ice cream is a good panacea for so much! I also had the same concerns expressed about your safety and glad that you took measures. I didn't know about Jubilee until this 'debate', i'm not their demographic and have no interest especially after watching this. I do appreciate that you did this-the exposure was so important and impactful. I don't agree with 'not platforming' b/c I don't think that's what you did-you did a huge public service by exposing the ignorance. As a Brown woman I appreciate what you've expressed about having personal feelings about the racist attacks-I was stunned by how blatant and repetitive this was (I can only imagine what we didn't see, and frankly, glad it's not on view). Some of the results afterwards, job loss, idiot online thinking he won, etc. just speaks to the level of delusion many are in. Good to see you on The Bulwark and News Agents-first for me to see both and will definitely keep an eye on News Agents, thinking about The Bulwark. Doesn't sound like you know about the vetting-if any-fair enough.
Again, sincere thanks Mehdi. WE HAVE TO BEND THE ARC and miles to go...
Mehdi, bravo!!! Do you think it would be a good idea to have Pete Buttigieg do the Jubilee’s Surrounded Debate?
He actually already did a Surrounded debate about eight months ago. It was Pete Buttigieg vs. 25 Undecided Voters.
thank you Mehdi. zeteo is one of the best facets of left-wing media to emerge in the recent past. it’s helping me stay sane in 2025 lol.
I didn’t like this format. Passionate (misinformed) young kids circling an expert grown up saying poisonous things…
Yes, to our separate choirs, the champions refuted the devil, but it was polarizing and perhaps performative and entrenching.
My guess is that we have to reach each other benevolently and through back doors like debunking the sources of Christian Nationalism’s ‘information’ (oligarch funding perhaps, Us/Them tropes) rather than them theirselves and rightly desperate mis-views… on how to navigate out of a train reck culture that predated, and I would say facilitated this 2025 take over.
We are in communion here. Kidding (one needs to be able to still do the kidding motions).
Really wanted to be there 😕. Next time.
Mehdi - Nice haircut! Also good debate although you were the hunter and those dumbass kids the hunted. Hopefully they’ll grow up to regret their ignorance and not become a bunch of Stephen Millers!
<3 Yusuf!