I’m so with you! I’m tired and I’m done with Dems who keep saying “but Trump” while taking AIPAC money, spewing their lies and half-truths. AOC is no better and I’m sorry, this interview doesn’t change shit about her for me. She’s not much better than the rest of the establishment Dems who say a lot but don’t do much. #done. And #freepalestine.
I’m so with you! I’m tired and I’m done with Dems who keep saying “but Trump” while taking AIPAC money, spewing their lies and half-truths. AOC is no better and I’m sorry, this interview doesn’t change shit about her for me. She’s not much better than the rest of the establishment Dems who say a lot but don’t do much. #done. And #freepalestine.
Agreed. The idea that one party has the higher moral or ethical high ground than the other at this point is invalid. The political journey for the world now is to mobilise different politcal options than a choice between two broken corrupt alternatives. If a government’s complicity in genocide has not made that clear am not sure what will.
70% of that budget they approved goes to defense. There is always money for war. But we defunded UNRWA the UN agency that supports Palestinian refugees. We rightly criticized Trump for tossing paper towels at folk in PR during the aftermath of hurricane Marie but we are supposed to ignore Biden supplying Israel the bombs and warplanes and other weapons to kill Palestinians with impunity. Then to add insult to injury, he airdrops food into Gaza that killed at least five people when the aid landed on top of them. I mean this sounds like something out of a F'ing cartoon. Crazy!!!
You are right but you also risk getting so far out front of public opinion that you find yourself a righteous group of progressives with no contact with the rest of the people who want to see progressive change. Democracy still requires a majority. That means everyone has to compromise to reach enough common ground to have a majority government to implement badly-needed change. Yes, global warming means we are running out of time but if you too far ahead, you become ineffective. It's a classic progressive dilemma. If you condemn "the left" as well as "the right" then you doom yourself and the possibility of making the needed changes. You just know it's not going to come from the right.
As I stated, this country is not a democracy but an empire. You'll have to research and find out what that really means in light of your comment. Dr. King stated five days before his assassination that he feared that he was integrating his people into a burning house. He also said Blacks may well get the right to vote but will have no one to vote for. Palestine is taking up the news cycle but there is still the Congo, Haiti, the Philippines, etc, etc, etc. As one commentar stated, the US with all of its talk of democracy and human rights makes it clear, the Emperor has no clothes.
Is there any country on earth that fits your idea of democracy? We all wish to support the ideal, to be the ideal. But we are stuck here in Realityville, along with the challenges of first-world problems. (Which while not as immediately existential are still problems). It is valid to criticize well-meaning but compromised leaders, but if one refuses to support leaders unless they are perfect, there will be no one to support. We are left to determine who is the least worse and support them. I am not an American but looking in from the outside, it seems pretty clear who that is in America in 2024. The leader of my country is Justin Trudeau and there are many, many criticisms to make about him. But the alternative is Pierre Poilievre. He is not just worse but exponentially worse. We can't let the possible imperfect be the enemy of the unattainable good.
I am not talking about supporting perfect leaderships. If that were the case Biden would have never gotten my vote. We are in a very different place for han we were in 2020. I am not voting for a guy who calls hims of Zionist and he sed my tax money to kill tens of thousands. My decision.
Your decision is your right and I am not attempting to change your opinion. But in making that decision, you must know that even if you do not vote for another candidate, not voting for Biden is giving the advantage to Trump in an election that is as close as this one is stacking up to be. Given the political and social consequences of a second Trump presidency, especially in light of Project 2025, do those catastrophic consequences outweigh your strong antipathy to Biden?
If you have read everything I've said, you would understand that this comment was unnecessary. If Biden and the Dems lose in November it will be their own damn fault. I have nothing more to say.
And if Trump is elected in November, it will be because not enough people voted for democracy. Another Trump presidency will be a disaster for the United States and all that it purports to stand for. We are already seeing the opening moves of repression of freedoms on women, on universities, on science, on literacy and history, on basic democratic freedoms. Biden is a flawed candidate but he is not actively consorting with the foes of democratic freedom as we daily observe from Trump and his supporters. This is, indeed, a time of choosing. Americans are being called upon to see beyond their own comfort zones to choose the larger good.
Given your dismissal of the Ruling Duopoly and lack of competitive political system beyond those two choices that better represent Wall Street than Main Street, will you be voting for and recommending others vote for indie candidate and paper trail proven Cornel West?
Unfortunately, the two ruling parties control our political system. Would to God Bernie had started a third party when he had the opportunity to. And the parties choose the candidates who will run and who will be nominated. Then there are the lobbyists. So folk will have to decide what they will do. God help us!!!
I’m so with you! I’m tired and I’m done with Dems who keep saying “but Trump” while taking AIPAC money, spewing their lies and half-truths. AOC is no better and I’m sorry, this interview doesn’t change shit about her for me. She’s not much better than the rest of the establishment Dems who say a lot but don’t do much. #done. And #freepalestine.
Agreed. The idea that one party has the higher moral or ethical high ground than the other at this point is invalid. The political journey for the world now is to mobilise different politcal options than a choice between two broken corrupt alternatives. If a government’s complicity in genocide has not made that clear am not sure what will.
70% of that budget they approved goes to defense. There is always money for war. But we defunded UNRWA the UN agency that supports Palestinian refugees. We rightly criticized Trump for tossing paper towels at folk in PR during the aftermath of hurricane Marie but we are supposed to ignore Biden supplying Israel the bombs and warplanes and other weapons to kill Palestinians with impunity. Then to add insult to injury, he airdrops food into Gaza that killed at least five people when the aid landed on top of them. I mean this sounds like something out of a F'ing cartoon. Crazy!!!
You are right but you also risk getting so far out front of public opinion that you find yourself a righteous group of progressives with no contact with the rest of the people who want to see progressive change. Democracy still requires a majority. That means everyone has to compromise to reach enough common ground to have a majority government to implement badly-needed change. Yes, global warming means we are running out of time but if you too far ahead, you become ineffective. It's a classic progressive dilemma. If you condemn "the left" as well as "the right" then you doom yourself and the possibility of making the needed changes. You just know it's not going to come from the right.
As I stated, this country is not a democracy but an empire. You'll have to research and find out what that really means in light of your comment. Dr. King stated five days before his assassination that he feared that he was integrating his people into a burning house. He also said Blacks may well get the right to vote but will have no one to vote for. Palestine is taking up the news cycle but there is still the Congo, Haiti, the Philippines, etc, etc, etc. As one commentar stated, the US with all of its talk of democracy and human rights makes it clear, the Emperor has no clothes.
Is there any country on earth that fits your idea of democracy? We all wish to support the ideal, to be the ideal. But we are stuck here in Realityville, along with the challenges of first-world problems. (Which while not as immediately existential are still problems). It is valid to criticize well-meaning but compromised leaders, but if one refuses to support leaders unless they are perfect, there will be no one to support. We are left to determine who is the least worse and support them. I am not an American but looking in from the outside, it seems pretty clear who that is in America in 2024. The leader of my country is Justin Trudeau and there are many, many criticisms to make about him. But the alternative is Pierre Poilievre. He is not just worse but exponentially worse. We can't let the possible imperfect be the enemy of the unattainable good.
I am not talking about supporting perfect leaderships. If that were the case Biden would have never gotten my vote. We are in a very different place for han we were in 2020. I am not voting for a guy who calls hims of Zionist and he sed my tax money to kill tens of thousands. My decision.
Your decision is your right and I am not attempting to change your opinion. But in making that decision, you must know that even if you do not vote for another candidate, not voting for Biden is giving the advantage to Trump in an election that is as close as this one is stacking up to be. Given the political and social consequences of a second Trump presidency, especially in light of Project 2025, do those catastrophic consequences outweigh your strong antipathy to Biden?
If you have read everything I've said, you would understand that this comment was unnecessary. If Biden and the Dems lose in November it will be their own damn fault. I have nothing more to say.
And if Trump is elected in November, it will be because not enough people voted for democracy. Another Trump presidency will be a disaster for the United States and all that it purports to stand for. We are already seeing the opening moves of repression of freedoms on women, on universities, on science, on literacy and history, on basic democratic freedoms. Biden is a flawed candidate but he is not actively consorting with the foes of democratic freedom as we daily observe from Trump and his supporters. This is, indeed, a time of choosing. Americans are being called upon to see beyond their own comfort zones to choose the larger good.
Given your dismissal of the Ruling Duopoly and lack of competitive political system beyond those two choices that better represent Wall Street than Main Street, will you be voting for and recommending others vote for indie candidate and paper trail proven Cornel West?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?534481-5/cornel-west-2024-presidential-bid
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Unfortunately, the two ruling parties control our political system. Would to God Bernie had started a third party when he had the opportunity to. And the parties choose the candidates who will run and who will be nominated. Then there are the lobbyists. So folk will have to decide what they will do. God help us!!!