The 'Democratic Majority for Israel' attempts to send a softer message on Israel than AIPAC, but a look at its website shows that it basically functions as an AIPAC cut-out.
Americans need to oust people like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, and elect more people like Graham Platner. Israel is only friends with the U.S. for as long as the money and military equipment keeps flowing. Once it stops, Israel will show the U.S. its bared fangs.
The main contributions Israel’s “friendship” has made (beyond embroiling us in their aggressive wars) have been in surveillance and policing techniques designed to control and contain any USians who dissent from any government policy, such as those that support Israel. Or so it seems to me.
You would be right. it started with the Patriot Act and has morphed now, into a digital police state that few Americans outside of Washington D.C. know about. It's only going to get worse.
For many years I was an ardent supporter of Israel. MSM would have you believe that this is still the abused Israel of the 40's and we should all stand beside them against the rest of the world, if necessary. The ugly truth, some 8 decades later, is much, much different. They've become a version of WW2 Germany, and it is now the Palestinians who find themselves in the same shoes jews found themselves in less than a century ago. It's sad, and incredibly disheartening to see modern-day Israel dishing out the same sort of pain and torment that they, themselves, endured. I wish the best for both the Israeli and Palestinian people, but I think much like in the US, those in power have different ideas of what 'peace' looks like.
Any people under occupation have the right to armed resistance. That is the law. Hamas and Hezbollah were created in 1988 and 1982, respectively, in response to Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian and Lebanese land, respectively. In effect, Israel created Hamas and Hezbollah. In fact Israel funded Hamas to ensure that there would be a split in Palestinian leadership. Had there not been occupation, there would not be armed resistance.
While Hamas has committed war crimes, they pale in comparison to what Israel has committed, certainly in scale.
From 2008 to Oct 6, 2023, nearly 6700 Palestinians were violently killed by Israel. That compares to about 330 Israelis. While none of those people should have been killed, by any objective measure, the Palestinians are suffering more.
Israel is a genocidal, apartheid state. The horrors of the Holocaust do not give Israel the right to exterminate another people.
By the way, using your criteria, the Holocaust was not a genocide when it was happening because a court had not concluded that it was a genocide. Only a sadist would argue that we should not stop a genocide until a court determines it has occurred.
Right, the definition of genocide came about because of the Holocaust. But believing something is very different than concluding, especially in a case where Hamas and Iran play such massive roles in what transpired.
But Jay, you keep justifying Israel’s genocidal behavior based upon the actions of a group that the US and Israel classify as a terror group. Now, if Israel were truly a nation of laws and ethics, you would not be comparing them to a group that is regarded as a terrorist group. Your logic argues that -
It is ok to starve Palestinians because of Hamas.
It is ok to shoot Palestinian children in the head because of Hamas.
It is ok for Israel to rape Palestinian prisoners because of Hamas.
It is ok to for Israel to bomb a tent city of starving, diseased civilians from an F16 because of Hamas.
It is ok to kill 400 Palestinian journalists because of Hamas.
I could go on.
A civilized nation of laws does not do those things, under any circumstances. I was a commissioned officer in the US Navy. All of those are war crimes. A civilized military does not participate in these acts. I and fellow military officers are disgusted in what we see our military drawn into. When I was in the military, any of those action would have you court martialed.
I hope that you see where this is going. I don’t see how you can argue that Israel is any better than Hamas. In fact, in scale they are far, far worse. And this gets back to where this started, the Nazis.
On scale, the Nazis are indeed ahead of the Israelis. But, I think the drawing of parallels is pretty clear.
Both have committed ethnic cleansing, using war crimes. Both are led by fascist leaders who have invoked historical (or biblical) narratives to dehumanize the target population that they are destroying. Israeli polls also show that most Israelis would like to destroy and level all of Gaza and the Palestinians within it.
Israel has, for most of the past 40 years, been led by a party that in its 1977 charter denies the Palestinians a right to a state. Read the Likud charter.
I see more similarities with the Nazis than differences.
Let me pose a test of morality. Can a pursuer (killer) guarantee their own immunity by hiding behind innocents? Or another way to put it, must the pursued die so the pursuer (killer) profits from hiding behind the innocent?
This does not mean the pursued gains unlimited license.
You consistently avoid the uncomfortable truths about Israel and have been unable to demonstrate why your opinion matters when compared to that of B’Tselem, Omar Bartov and every human rights group. You are free to believe in what you do, but don’t pretend that it is based upon anything more than belief.
You have not indicated that you have any training in what constitutes war crimes. Perhaps you do, but I imagine you would have mentioned it if you did.
No civilized nation allows its military to do what the IDF has done in Gaza and now Lebanon. As someone who was trained for years in military doctrine, I cannot look at the IDF as the military of a civilized nation. War crimes are the rule, not the exception, of the IDF, and Israeli media, which I do watch periodically, proudly trumpets these war crimes. They are not sources of shame. No civilized nation behaves this way.
A military occupation, like slavery, relies upon oppression and brutality to survive very long. That is the nation of Israel, a nation founded upon a policy of brutality, oppression, and dispossession. And, the one positive thing about the Gaza genocide is that it has exposed Israel for what it is.
Right. Yet, no "civilized nation" can be expected to passively absorb a century of war, terrorism, rejectionism, and repeated threats from states, organizations, and peoples whose explicit goal has often been the extermination of the Jewish people.
That does not mean I support Netanyahu. I don’t, and I never have. His far-right partners are racist extremists. I also believe there are serious problems with how this war has been prosecuted. Some actions may well be war crimes, and the failure to confront settler violence has been morally and politically indefensible.
But this conversation started because I objected to Holocaust inversion and to claims that Israel or the IDF are meaningfully “similar” to the Nazis. That comparison is not just inflammatory. It is historically and morally wrong.
I understand why people feel compelled to call the Israel-Gaza war a genocide. We all want the death, violence, and suffering to end. War is horrific. I have never said people should stop from using that term. I simply don’t agree that the facts, circumstances, and rationale meet the legal definition of genocide.
And I am not just arguing online. I am trying to push for real change. Literally. Tomorrow, I am meeting with my congressman as part of a small group to discuss bills we want him to support that would significantly change the U.S.-Israel relationship and address settler violence directly.
They were never “the abused” Israel of the 40s and 50s. Israel has always been a settler colonial ethnic cleansing project, originally intended to secure England a foothold in the Middle East close to the strategically important Suez Canal and oil transportation routes to Iraq . The Nakba of 1948 drove 750,000 or more Palestinians from their homes to refugee camps in Faza, the West Bank, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria.
We have been told for decades about how Israel was the good guys and the Palestinians just terrorists who could not peacefully accept the Jewish state. This, of course was a lie.
The Palestinians were violently driven from their lands. The violence perpetrated by Israel on Gaza combined with social media (which made it possible to bypass the corporate media that had whitewashed Israel’s reputation for decades) exposed the truth about Israel. Like slavery, you cannot maintain a military occupation for decades without a whole lot of brutality and oppression. And, now we see what has been happening for the better part of 100 years.
I share your concern for Palestinian suffering and I’m deeply critical of Netanyahu, settlements, and endless occupation.
But comparing Israel to WWII Germany is absolute historical distortion, not moral clarity. It weaponizes Jewish trauma and turns a complex war into a crude role-reversal story.
It also erases the role of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran in driving this conflict — from terrorism and hostage-taking to rocket attacks and regional escalation. Palestinian suffering is real, but pretending Israel is simply “dishing out” pain for no reason ignores the forces openly committed to Israel’s destruction.
You can argue strongly for Palestinian rights without false Nazi analogies or erasing the continuing threats Israelis face. Nazis or casting Palestinians as “the new Jews.” That analogy doesn’t persuade; it inflames.
Every human rights organization on the planet, including two Israeli human rights organizations, have concluded that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Omar Bartov, Israeli American genocide scholar at Brown University has determined that Israel is committing genocide. That Israel is committing genocide has been determined by nearly all experts in the field.
Is your argument that genocide against Jews is somehow worse than genocide of Palestinians? Are you arguing that killing a population with gas chambers is somehow more inhumane than killing them through starvation, disease, bombs and sniper shots to the head?
Or, is your argument that the trauma being suffered by Palestinians in Gaza is less real than the trauma suffered by Jews in the Holocaust? If so, is it because you see them as a lesser people?
Even if you could make an argument that the genocide of Jews was uniquely evil and worse than the genocide of Palestinians, do you believe that the Palestinian genocide is acceptable?
It’s hard to make the arguments you’ve made unless you are in denial of the genocide or that you somehow view the Palestinian suffering as not worthy of concern. So, I suggest you look in the mirror and ask yourself whether you are in denial of the facts or you are a racist.
That’s a false choice. And, no legal authority has concluded its was a genocide.
Palestinian suffering is real, horrific, and worthy of serious moral concern. But rejecting Holocaust role-reversal analogies does not mean denying that suffering or excusing Israel’s conduct.
The Holocaust was a specific, industrialized extermination campaign against Jews across Europe. Gaza should be judged on its own facts, laws, and evidence — not by weaponizing Jewish trauma.
And any honest account also must include Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran: terrorism, hostage-taking, rockets, human shields, and their openly stated goals of Israel’s destruction and Jewish extermination. None of that erases Palestinian suffering. But erasing it produces propaganda, not moral clarity.
There are irrefutable similarities, as ugly as that might be or as difficult as it is for some to face. I'm not talking about body-count like some sort of scorecard, but rather similarities in tactics and the utter disregard for human lives belonging to specific peoples for 'reasons'.
We can agree to disagree on 'false Nazi analogies', but the simple fact is that there are plenty of similarities that warrant further appraisal. I'm not looking to 'persuade' - just making observations and voicing opinions.
Some similarities does not make it irrefutable. And agreeing to disagree is not an option when it comes to morality. EVERY war has civilian deaths, cruelty, dehumanization, and unjustified suffering.
The Nazi analogy fails because the core facts are not similar: Nazi Germany’s central project was the industrial extermination of Jews. Israel is fighting a war of self-defense against Hamas after mass murder, hostage-taking, rockets, and threats from Iran and Hezbollah, to carry out their own documented plans of genocide. That does not excuse civilian suffering, but it drastically changes the moral and historical context.
So yes, criticize Israel harshly where justified. But calling it WWII Germany does not clarify the issue. It twists and tortures real history, erases Hamas role, and turns Jewish trauma into a political weapon. Your opinion just becomes propoganda.
I'm also not here to change your mind either but to make it clear to others why you are incorrect - opinion or not.
Unfortunately, what is happening now is simply a more accelerated version of what has been happening in former mandate Palestine for nearly 100 years. Omar Bartov, the noted Israeli-American scholar on the Holocaust and genocide, recently published a book, “Israel - What went wrong”. I’ve heard him speak of it several times. He argues that Zionism, especially as practiced since the 1930s, when Jews tried to flee Europe and were not accepted into the US, was always flawed. It relied (with the help of the British) upon economic and physical displacement of the indigenous Palestinian people, which could only be accomplished through force. Bartov even describes it as settler colonialism. What we see now is the result of nearly 100 years of brutal oppression - which changes both the oppressed and the oppressor.
Israel has always had a great deal of support from European and the United States’ governments, which have enabled a carefully curated image of Israel to be presented to US and European citizens. Ironically, antisemitism, which culminated after hundreds of years in the Holocaust, was primarily a European and Christian phenomenon. But, the Palestinians have been forced to pay the price for the sins of the Nazis and their collaborators.
My “awakening” occurred in the 1980s, when in graduate school I had friends from the region (Jordan and Iran, in particular), that opened my eyes to what was happening. After some research, I realized that the story we were told was what the Israeli and US governments wanted us to hear. Too much of what I saw in the MSM didn’t add up. The biggest inconsistency was, if Israel really wanted to live peacefully side-by-side with the Palestinians, why were they building settlements in occupied land? Also, back then Israel denied the Nakba of 1948, claiming that the Palestinians voluntarily fled and didn’t return. That made no sense, and we now know that the Nakba was a forced ethnic cleansing that destroyed many Palestinian villages. Today, Israel is more honest about the Nakba, claiming that they are now trying to finish what wasn’t completed in 1944.
Military occupation, like slavery, relies upon brutality and oppression. It can’t last very long without those characteristics. Essential to maintaining prolonged oppression and brutality is dehumanization of the oppressed.
Thank you for the article. I’m glad you welcome freedom of speech in your articles , AIPAC has me frustrated as a voter. It seems democrats use it as a swinging platform for votes. You scratch your back we scratch it right back so to speak. I believe nothing gets accomplished by AIPAC . During this administration congress may not have accomplished anything at all because of AIPAC. Please support ZETEO.
slippery slope..bibi clearly benefits from this... conflating Israel and zionists ... it is the zionists that are committing genocide .. many Israelis are against this but powerless.. it's like saying all Americans are racists .. and just like us they have to vote this monster out but until they do we need to stop feeding the beast....but is our congress listening because we are helping fund this genocide...hakeem must answer... don't waste your breath on schumer
Btw Zeteo. That guy in London who stabbed two Jewish men was enough to get Netanyahu to push Starmer to call it a "severe" terrorist attack. Well it wasn't an attack on Jews at all. It was an attack by a madman who had just been released from hospital and the FIRST person he attack was a Somalian! Then after that he went across London and attacked two more men. I doubt wether he cared if they were Jewish or not! How come the "news" and the Metropolitan police didn't mention that fact? Because then they couldn't call it a terrorist attack against Jews and therefore stop any protests against Israelis killing Palestinians, that's why! Britain is complicit in these killing just as they are complicit in the bombing of that girls school in Iran. He allowed the US to launch their attack from Cyprus from what I understand. Starmer has to go! AIPAC lobbyists operate in the UK too not just the USA.
We don't hear, read, or see a true narrative of what's happening, as the world media in general is controlled, and you get what they want, not a fair reading of current affairs. A minuscule group of independent sources, like Zeteo, is still available. I hope that people will see through and boycott mainstream media and use their political power at the time of elections, rallies, etc., to make a change.
I absolutely agree with you Asad but the problem is that the public hasn't the capacity anymore of being able to LISTEN to the truth. They have been sold a sanitised version of the truth for many many years. I could say right back to the genocide of the American Indian. The John Wayne western movies depicting an Indian who could only be called a "good" Indian if he worked with the white man who was committing genocide towards his own people. I know this generation is more informed but they are still WANTING to believe that the government can do no wrong. Change will come to Americans eventually but it's going to take decades to get rid of that institutional thinking. Many people will still become like zombies when they turn on their TV sets to listen to the sanitised news because they can't handle the truth. These elections you have coming up is an example of how the people think that if they just vote for a democrat all will be well and they can recede back into their "safe space" and never have to think independently again. Knowing and actually believing are two different things Asad.
Agreed John. Btw so is the UK for letting them use their grounds for launching the attacks. They call it "defence" I call it complicity. You can't have it both ways.
I just posted it on FB. They might pullit down later. One thing is I Idont use the FB app. I log on thru Firefox and just keep that open. It seems to save me from being profiled & targeted w ads for some reason.
Politicians should only be allowed to accept money from voters, period. Allowing money from any group or organization is a slippery slope that leads to where we are today.
The article is right that Democratic opinion toward Israel’s government has deteriorated. But significantly distorts the evidence that it implies Democrats have broadly abandoned Israel. Polling from Gallop, Pew and Harvard/Harris show something far more honest: Democrats increasingly oppose Netanyahu, the Gaza war, and unconditional military support, while still strongly supporting a two-state solution — which necessarily includes Israel’s continued existence as a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian state.
This why many question Zeteo's journalistic integrity.
You need to distinguish between Democratic voters and Democratic Party politicians. Voters mostly view Israel very negatively while politicians are more inclined to support Israel while giving nothing more than lip service about Palestinian rights. I agree that blaming Netanyahu and calling for a “path” to a two-state solution is little more than a ploy by politicians to sound like they care about the Palestinians while quietly supporting Israel’s ethnic cleansing project.
The other thing they do is complain about the settlers, but do nothing to stop the settler violence that is supported by the state of Israel.
As for Zeteo, any media outlet can be criticized for one reason or another. But, my opinion is that Zeteo and Drop Site News are head and shoulders over the corporate media.
Sure, there is a gap between Democratic voters and many Democratic politicians. Voters are much more negative toward Netanyahu, the Gaza war, settlements, and unconditional military support.
But you’re collapsing different issues into one conclusion. Negative views of Israel’s current government do not automatically mean voters reject Israel as a Jewish homeland or a two-state solution. In fact, polling shows most Democrats oppose the war while still supporting two states — Israel and Palestine side by side. Have you looked at voters opinions of Hamas?
Most Dem leaders feel settler violence must stop but are not in a position to stop it, but Trump does, and has the power to do so.
As for Zeteo, I don’t reject it because it criticizes Israel. I criticize the Israeli government all the time. I criticize Zeteo for its absolutism and maximalist interpretations. That just makes Zeteo all about propoganda.
I don't question Zeteo's integrity. I question yours, tho. Because, I'm guessing your a zionist apologist and supporter. Zionism, and apartheid regimes of any kind, have no place in the modern world. And spare me the "but Hezbollah and Hamas" argument. Zionists have been murdering, displacing, torturing, and othewise terrorizing Palestinians for 74 years. Note I did not say "jews." The Nakba is real. There are far too many of us now fully aware of how Israel came to be. It's not too late to set the record straight, and make the Palestinians whole. And the invaders that took their homeland may return to Europe (mostly) from whence they came.
The facts don't support your position. Palestinians have been murdering innocent Jewish civilians for over 100-years, and have provided publicly documented plans of extermination of the Jewish people.
The receipts:
- In 1920, Palestinian leadership voted to reject the Balfour Declaration
- In 1920, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Nebi Musa killing Jewish civilians
- In 1921, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Jaffa killing Jewish civilians
- In 1922, Arab leadership again rejected the Balfour Declaration
- In 1929, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Jerusalem, Hebron, and Safed killing Jewish civilians
- In 1933, more Palestinian anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- in 1935, more Palestinian anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- in 1936 (to 1939) the Arab anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- In 1937, Arab leadership rejected the Peel Commission
- In 1941, the Mufti, the representative of the Palestinians met with Hitler to express support and expansion of Hitler's "final solution" including wanting to bring the Holocaust to Palestine
- In 1947, Palestinians rejected the UN Partition Plan and Palestinians started a civil war killing Jewish civilians
- In 1948, Palestinian militia and their Arab allies went to war over Israel to eradicate Jewish presence
- In 1967, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq instigated another war to wipe out Israel and eradicate Jewish presence
- In 1973, Egypt, Syria and a coalition of 9 other countries instigated a war again try to wipe Israel off the map and any Jewish presence
- In 1988 Hamas was founded with a charter that described a genocide of Jews in Israel and the diaspora, and 1st Intifada was rooted in exterminating Jewish lives
- 2000-2005 Hamas started the 2nd Intifada killing Jewish civilians
- in 2008, Hamas stared a war against Israel killing Jewish civilians
- in 2014, Hamas started the first Gaza War killing Jewish civilians
- In 2021, Hamas started another war with Israel killing Jewish civilians
- In 2023, Hamas, started its fifth military operation against Israel killing Jewish civilians
These aren’t receipts; this is simply a list, which doesn’t prove a single thing except that two groups have been killing one another. If I lived in a country under occupation and my family’s land and resources were forcibly taken away from me, I’d fight back too - anyone would. Wouldn’t you?
Yes, it is a list but of well-documented history of Palestinian violence against Jews and Israel. First, it's not a country - and neither Egypt of Jordan addressed the problem when they "occupied" the region. Furthermore, almost half the Arabs left on their own volition prior to the state of Israel declared Independence.
I get it. The Arabs rejected the Balfour Agreement. It's more of a declaration than an agreement, tho. And yeah: back in 1912 or so, a few Arab leaders welcomed their jewish "brothers." Then zionists, a minority, took control over governance. Drove native peoples off their land with lawfare and money. I know the history. You didn't include a list of what provoked such revolts. I said it before and I'll say it again: there is no place for an apartheid state. Zionisism is an abomination and an affront to humanity.
As I understand it, Zionists are a minority. Most Jews don’t support Zionism, because of it being an abomination, an affront to humanity. I’ve kind of lost the thread here, but there’s no doubt in my mind that Netanyahu’s genocide against Palestinians is wrong, impossible to excuse or support under any circumstances. Americans are bankrolling this genocide which makes them complicit.
I would suggest that thoughtful. honest voters believe it's time to stop supporting Israel in the manner of the past, and spend taxpayers money in the U.S. and not treating her as the #1 state in the world.
Grateful for your work and the content you share. I am a little confused with the article “Debunking 5 Myths A Pro-Israel …” that seems to address just 4 myths that DMFI promotes. Aside, nice write up.
By putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t get the pigs picture on the front page of fashion magazine Elle. So this is the same thing the new gang of lying thugs are trying to do. But millions of people around the world have recognized that a pig will always be a pig and it likes to live in a sty which l don’t think any other animal likes to be anywhere near it. So if Dems making statements like Hakeem and Schumer will be considered as pigs and l for one will have no difficulty telling them to go lie in sty when they come looking for my vote.
Stop believing in these sham elections. It’s the same bs over and over. Democrats are complicit and NO DIFFERENT than their opponents. It’s a damn fraternity that we aren’t in. This is 99% v. 1%
Americans need to oust people like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, and elect more people like Graham Platner. Israel is only friends with the U.S. for as long as the money and military equipment keeps flowing. Once it stops, Israel will show the U.S. its bared fangs.
Jeffries and Schumer are Wimpycrats who continually wimp out before Trump. Both of them must go along with Blue Dogs like FetterMANCHIN!
The main contributions Israel’s “friendship” has made (beyond embroiling us in their aggressive wars) have been in surveillance and policing techniques designed to control and contain any USians who dissent from any government policy, such as those that support Israel. Or so it seems to me.
You would be right. it started with the Patriot Act and has morphed now, into a digital police state that few Americans outside of Washington D.C. know about. It's only going to get worse.
Thank you as always. Have to break the chain.
For many years I was an ardent supporter of Israel. MSM would have you believe that this is still the abused Israel of the 40's and we should all stand beside them against the rest of the world, if necessary. The ugly truth, some 8 decades later, is much, much different. They've become a version of WW2 Germany, and it is now the Palestinians who find themselves in the same shoes jews found themselves in less than a century ago. It's sad, and incredibly disheartening to see modern-day Israel dishing out the same sort of pain and torment that they, themselves, endured. I wish the best for both the Israeli and Palestinian people, but I think much like in the US, those in power have different ideas of what 'peace' looks like.
Any people under occupation have the right to armed resistance. That is the law. Hamas and Hezbollah were created in 1988 and 1982, respectively, in response to Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian and Lebanese land, respectively. In effect, Israel created Hamas and Hezbollah. In fact Israel funded Hamas to ensure that there would be a split in Palestinian leadership. Had there not been occupation, there would not be armed resistance.
While Hamas has committed war crimes, they pale in comparison to what Israel has committed, certainly in scale.
From 2008 to Oct 6, 2023, nearly 6700 Palestinians were violently killed by Israel. That compares to about 330 Israelis. While none of those people should have been killed, by any objective measure, the Palestinians are suffering more.
Israel is a genocidal, apartheid state. The horrors of the Holocaust do not give Israel the right to exterminate another people.
By the way, using your criteria, the Holocaust was not a genocide when it was happening because a court had not concluded that it was a genocide. Only a sadist would argue that we should not stop a genocide until a court determines it has occurred.
Right, the definition of genocide came about because of the Holocaust. But believing something is very different than concluding, especially in a case where Hamas and Iran play such massive roles in what transpired.
But Jay, you keep justifying Israel’s genocidal behavior based upon the actions of a group that the US and Israel classify as a terror group. Now, if Israel were truly a nation of laws and ethics, you would not be comparing them to a group that is regarded as a terrorist group. Your logic argues that -
It is ok to starve Palestinians because of Hamas.
It is ok to shoot Palestinian children in the head because of Hamas.
It is ok for Israel to rape Palestinian prisoners because of Hamas.
It is ok to for Israel to bomb a tent city of starving, diseased civilians from an F16 because of Hamas.
It is ok to kill 400 Palestinian journalists because of Hamas.
I could go on.
A civilized nation of laws does not do those things, under any circumstances. I was a commissioned officer in the US Navy. All of those are war crimes. A civilized military does not participate in these acts. I and fellow military officers are disgusted in what we see our military drawn into. When I was in the military, any of those action would have you court martialed.
I hope that you see where this is going. I don’t see how you can argue that Israel is any better than Hamas. In fact, in scale they are far, far worse. And this gets back to where this started, the Nazis.
On scale, the Nazis are indeed ahead of the Israelis. But, I think the drawing of parallels is pretty clear.
Both have committed ethnic cleansing, using war crimes. Both are led by fascist leaders who have invoked historical (or biblical) narratives to dehumanize the target population that they are destroying. Israeli polls also show that most Israelis would like to destroy and level all of Gaza and the Palestinians within it.
Israel has, for most of the past 40 years, been led by a party that in its 1977 charter denies the Palestinians a right to a state. Read the Likud charter.
I see more similarities with the Nazis than differences.
Let me pose a test of morality. Can a pursuer (killer) guarantee their own immunity by hiding behind innocents? Or another way to put it, must the pursued die so the pursuer (killer) profits from hiding behind the innocent?
This does not mean the pursued gains unlimited license.
You consistently avoid the uncomfortable truths about Israel and have been unable to demonstrate why your opinion matters when compared to that of B’Tselem, Omar Bartov and every human rights group. You are free to believe in what you do, but don’t pretend that it is based upon anything more than belief.
You have not indicated that you have any training in what constitutes war crimes. Perhaps you do, but I imagine you would have mentioned it if you did.
No civilized nation allows its military to do what the IDF has done in Gaza and now Lebanon. As someone who was trained for years in military doctrine, I cannot look at the IDF as the military of a civilized nation. War crimes are the rule, not the exception, of the IDF, and Israeli media, which I do watch periodically, proudly trumpets these war crimes. They are not sources of shame. No civilized nation behaves this way.
A military occupation, like slavery, relies upon oppression and brutality to survive very long. That is the nation of Israel, a nation founded upon a policy of brutality, oppression, and dispossession. And, the one positive thing about the Gaza genocide is that it has exposed Israel for what it is.
Let’s end this back and forth.
Right. Yet, no "civilized nation" can be expected to passively absorb a century of war, terrorism, rejectionism, and repeated threats from states, organizations, and peoples whose explicit goal has often been the extermination of the Jewish people.
That does not mean I support Netanyahu. I don’t, and I never have. His far-right partners are racist extremists. I also believe there are serious problems with how this war has been prosecuted. Some actions may well be war crimes, and the failure to confront settler violence has been morally and politically indefensible.
But this conversation started because I objected to Holocaust inversion and to claims that Israel or the IDF are meaningfully “similar” to the Nazis. That comparison is not just inflammatory. It is historically and morally wrong.
I understand why people feel compelled to call the Israel-Gaza war a genocide. We all want the death, violence, and suffering to end. War is horrific. I have never said people should stop from using that term. I simply don’t agree that the facts, circumstances, and rationale meet the legal definition of genocide.
And I am not just arguing online. I am trying to push for real change. Literally. Tomorrow, I am meeting with my congressman as part of a small group to discuss bills we want him to support that would significantly change the U.S.-Israel relationship and address settler violence directly.
They were never “the abused” Israel of the 40s and 50s. Israel has always been a settler colonial ethnic cleansing project, originally intended to secure England a foothold in the Middle East close to the strategically important Suez Canal and oil transportation routes to Iraq . The Nakba of 1948 drove 750,000 or more Palestinians from their homes to refugee camps in Faza, the West Bank, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria.
We have been told for decades about how Israel was the good guys and the Palestinians just terrorists who could not peacefully accept the Jewish state. This, of course was a lie.
The Palestinians were violently driven from their lands. The violence perpetrated by Israel on Gaza combined with social media (which made it possible to bypass the corporate media that had whitewashed Israel’s reputation for decades) exposed the truth about Israel. Like slavery, you cannot maintain a military occupation for decades without a whole lot of brutality and oppression. And, now we see what has been happening for the better part of 100 years.
I share your concern for Palestinian suffering and I’m deeply critical of Netanyahu, settlements, and endless occupation.
But comparing Israel to WWII Germany is absolute historical distortion, not moral clarity. It weaponizes Jewish trauma and turns a complex war into a crude role-reversal story.
It also erases the role of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran in driving this conflict — from terrorism and hostage-taking to rocket attacks and regional escalation. Palestinian suffering is real, but pretending Israel is simply “dishing out” pain for no reason ignores the forces openly committed to Israel’s destruction.
You can argue strongly for Palestinian rights without false Nazi analogies or erasing the continuing threats Israelis face. Nazis or casting Palestinians as “the new Jews.” That analogy doesn’t persuade; it inflames.
Every human rights organization on the planet, including two Israeli human rights organizations, have concluded that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Omar Bartov, Israeli American genocide scholar at Brown University has determined that Israel is committing genocide. That Israel is committing genocide has been determined by nearly all experts in the field.
Is your argument that genocide against Jews is somehow worse than genocide of Palestinians? Are you arguing that killing a population with gas chambers is somehow more inhumane than killing them through starvation, disease, bombs and sniper shots to the head?
Or, is your argument that the trauma being suffered by Palestinians in Gaza is less real than the trauma suffered by Jews in the Holocaust? If so, is it because you see them as a lesser people?
Even if you could make an argument that the genocide of Jews was uniquely evil and worse than the genocide of Palestinians, do you believe that the Palestinian genocide is acceptable?
It’s hard to make the arguments you’ve made unless you are in denial of the genocide or that you somehow view the Palestinian suffering as not worthy of concern. So, I suggest you look in the mirror and ask yourself whether you are in denial of the facts or you are a racist.
That’s a false choice. And, no legal authority has concluded its was a genocide.
Palestinian suffering is real, horrific, and worthy of serious moral concern. But rejecting Holocaust role-reversal analogies does not mean denying that suffering or excusing Israel’s conduct.
The Holocaust was a specific, industrialized extermination campaign against Jews across Europe. Gaza should be judged on its own facts, laws, and evidence — not by weaponizing Jewish trauma.
And any honest account also must include Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran: terrorism, hostage-taking, rockets, human shields, and their openly stated goals of Israel’s destruction and Jewish extermination. None of that erases Palestinian suffering. But erasing it produces propaganda, not moral clarity.
There are irrefutable similarities, as ugly as that might be or as difficult as it is for some to face. I'm not talking about body-count like some sort of scorecard, but rather similarities in tactics and the utter disregard for human lives belonging to specific peoples for 'reasons'.
We can agree to disagree on 'false Nazi analogies', but the simple fact is that there are plenty of similarities that warrant further appraisal. I'm not looking to 'persuade' - just making observations and voicing opinions.
Some similarities does not make it irrefutable. And agreeing to disagree is not an option when it comes to morality. EVERY war has civilian deaths, cruelty, dehumanization, and unjustified suffering.
The Nazi analogy fails because the core facts are not similar: Nazi Germany’s central project was the industrial extermination of Jews. Israel is fighting a war of self-defense against Hamas after mass murder, hostage-taking, rockets, and threats from Iran and Hezbollah, to carry out their own documented plans of genocide. That does not excuse civilian suffering, but it drastically changes the moral and historical context.
So yes, criticize Israel harshly where justified. But calling it WWII Germany does not clarify the issue. It twists and tortures real history, erases Hamas role, and turns Jewish trauma into a political weapon. Your opinion just becomes propoganda.
I'm also not here to change your mind either but to make it clear to others why you are incorrect - opinion or not.
Unfortunately, what is happening now is simply a more accelerated version of what has been happening in former mandate Palestine for nearly 100 years. Omar Bartov, the noted Israeli-American scholar on the Holocaust and genocide, recently published a book, “Israel - What went wrong”. I’ve heard him speak of it several times. He argues that Zionism, especially as practiced since the 1930s, when Jews tried to flee Europe and were not accepted into the US, was always flawed. It relied (with the help of the British) upon economic and physical displacement of the indigenous Palestinian people, which could only be accomplished through force. Bartov even describes it as settler colonialism. What we see now is the result of nearly 100 years of brutal oppression - which changes both the oppressed and the oppressor.
Israel has always had a great deal of support from European and the United States’ governments, which have enabled a carefully curated image of Israel to be presented to US and European citizens. Ironically, antisemitism, which culminated after hundreds of years in the Holocaust, was primarily a European and Christian phenomenon. But, the Palestinians have been forced to pay the price for the sins of the Nazis and their collaborators.
My “awakening” occurred in the 1980s, when in graduate school I had friends from the region (Jordan and Iran, in particular), that opened my eyes to what was happening. After some research, I realized that the story we were told was what the Israeli and US governments wanted us to hear. Too much of what I saw in the MSM didn’t add up. The biggest inconsistency was, if Israel really wanted to live peacefully side-by-side with the Palestinians, why were they building settlements in occupied land? Also, back then Israel denied the Nakba of 1948, claiming that the Palestinians voluntarily fled and didn’t return. That made no sense, and we now know that the Nakba was a forced ethnic cleansing that destroyed many Palestinian villages. Today, Israel is more honest about the Nakba, claiming that they are now trying to finish what wasn’t completed in 1944.
Military occupation, like slavery, relies upon brutality and oppression. It can’t last very long without those characteristics. Essential to maintaining prolonged oppression and brutality is dehumanization of the oppressed.
Hamas and Hezbollah we’re
Thank you for the article. I’m glad you welcome freedom of speech in your articles , AIPAC has me frustrated as a voter. It seems democrats use it as a swinging platform for votes. You scratch your back we scratch it right back so to speak. I believe nothing gets accomplished by AIPAC . During this administration congress may not have accomplished anything at all because of AIPAC. Please support ZETEO.
Myth #3 also included Ukraine as having US Troops. Huh??? Where?
We have had it with AIPAC, Likud and Booby Nincompoopo.
Israel is a parasite
slippery slope..bibi clearly benefits from this... conflating Israel and zionists ... it is the zionists that are committing genocide .. many Israelis are against this but powerless.. it's like saying all Americans are racists .. and just like us they have to vote this monster out but until they do we need to stop feeding the beast....but is our congress listening because we are helping fund this genocide...hakeem must answer... don't waste your breath on schumer
Btw Zeteo. That guy in London who stabbed two Jewish men was enough to get Netanyahu to push Starmer to call it a "severe" terrorist attack. Well it wasn't an attack on Jews at all. It was an attack by a madman who had just been released from hospital and the FIRST person he attack was a Somalian! Then after that he went across London and attacked two more men. I doubt wether he cared if they were Jewish or not! How come the "news" and the Metropolitan police didn't mention that fact? Because then they couldn't call it a terrorist attack against Jews and therefore stop any protests against Israelis killing Palestinians, that's why! Britain is complicit in these killing just as they are complicit in the bombing of that girls school in Iran. He allowed the US to launch their attack from Cyprus from what I understand. Starmer has to go! AIPAC lobbyists operate in the UK too not just the USA.
We don't hear, read, or see a true narrative of what's happening, as the world media in general is controlled, and you get what they want, not a fair reading of current affairs. A minuscule group of independent sources, like Zeteo, is still available. I hope that people will see through and boycott mainstream media and use their political power at the time of elections, rallies, etc., to make a change.
I absolutely agree with you Asad but the problem is that the public hasn't the capacity anymore of being able to LISTEN to the truth. They have been sold a sanitised version of the truth for many many years. I could say right back to the genocide of the American Indian. The John Wayne western movies depicting an Indian who could only be called a "good" Indian if he worked with the white man who was committing genocide towards his own people. I know this generation is more informed but they are still WANTING to believe that the government can do no wrong. Change will come to Americans eventually but it's going to take decades to get rid of that institutional thinking. Many people will still become like zombies when they turn on their TV sets to listen to the sanitised news because they can't handle the truth. These elections you have coming up is an example of how the people think that if they just vote for a democrat all will be well and they can recede back into their "safe space" and never have to think independently again. Knowing and actually believing are two different things Asad.
The U.S. is complicit with Israel in committing massive war crimes. FULL STOP
Agreed John. Btw so is the UK for letting them use their grounds for launching the attacks. They call it "defence" I call it complicity. You can't have it both ways.
Unable to post this on Facebook. Facebook has started rejecting posts from Zeteo and Robert Scheer.
I just posted it on FB. They might pullit down later. One thing is I Idont use the FB app. I log on thru Firefox and just keep that open. It seems to save me from being profiled & targeted w ads for some reason.
Thanks. I'll try that.
Politicians should only be allowed to accept money from voters, period. Allowing money from any group or organization is a slippery slope that leads to where we are today.
The article is right that Democratic opinion toward Israel’s government has deteriorated. But significantly distorts the evidence that it implies Democrats have broadly abandoned Israel. Polling from Gallop, Pew and Harvard/Harris show something far more honest: Democrats increasingly oppose Netanyahu, the Gaza war, and unconditional military support, while still strongly supporting a two-state solution — which necessarily includes Israel’s continued existence as a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian state.
This why many question Zeteo's journalistic integrity.
You need to distinguish between Democratic voters and Democratic Party politicians. Voters mostly view Israel very negatively while politicians are more inclined to support Israel while giving nothing more than lip service about Palestinian rights. I agree that blaming Netanyahu and calling for a “path” to a two-state solution is little more than a ploy by politicians to sound like they care about the Palestinians while quietly supporting Israel’s ethnic cleansing project.
The other thing they do is complain about the settlers, but do nothing to stop the settler violence that is supported by the state of Israel.
As for Zeteo, any media outlet can be criticized for one reason or another. But, my opinion is that Zeteo and Drop Site News are head and shoulders over the corporate media.
Sure, there is a gap between Democratic voters and many Democratic politicians. Voters are much more negative toward Netanyahu, the Gaza war, settlements, and unconditional military support.
But you’re collapsing different issues into one conclusion. Negative views of Israel’s current government do not automatically mean voters reject Israel as a Jewish homeland or a two-state solution. In fact, polling shows most Democrats oppose the war while still supporting two states — Israel and Palestine side by side. Have you looked at voters opinions of Hamas?
Most Dem leaders feel settler violence must stop but are not in a position to stop it, but Trump does, and has the power to do so.
As for Zeteo, I don’t reject it because it criticizes Israel. I criticize the Israeli government all the time. I criticize Zeteo for its absolutism and maximalist interpretations. That just makes Zeteo all about propoganda.
I don't question Zeteo's integrity. I question yours, tho. Because, I'm guessing your a zionist apologist and supporter. Zionism, and apartheid regimes of any kind, have no place in the modern world. And spare me the "but Hezbollah and Hamas" argument. Zionists have been murdering, displacing, torturing, and othewise terrorizing Palestinians for 74 years. Note I did not say "jews." The Nakba is real. There are far too many of us now fully aware of how Israel came to be. It's not too late to set the record straight, and make the Palestinians whole. And the invaders that took their homeland may return to Europe (mostly) from whence they came.
The facts don't support your position. Palestinians have been murdering innocent Jewish civilians for over 100-years, and have provided publicly documented plans of extermination of the Jewish people.
The receipts:
- In 1920, Palestinian leadership voted to reject the Balfour Declaration
- In 1920, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Nebi Musa killing Jewish civilians
- In 1921, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Jaffa killing Jewish civilians
- In 1922, Arab leadership again rejected the Balfour Declaration
- In 1929, Palestinians started anti-Jewish riots in Jerusalem, Hebron, and Safed killing Jewish civilians
- In 1933, more Palestinian anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- in 1935, more Palestinian anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- in 1936 (to 1939) the Arab anti-Jewish riots killing Jewish civilians
- In 1937, Arab leadership rejected the Peel Commission
- In 1941, the Mufti, the representative of the Palestinians met with Hitler to express support and expansion of Hitler's "final solution" including wanting to bring the Holocaust to Palestine
- In 1947, Palestinians rejected the UN Partition Plan and Palestinians started a civil war killing Jewish civilians
- In 1948, Palestinian militia and their Arab allies went to war over Israel to eradicate Jewish presence
- In 1967, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq instigated another war to wipe out Israel and eradicate Jewish presence
- In 1973, Egypt, Syria and a coalition of 9 other countries instigated a war again try to wipe Israel off the map and any Jewish presence
- In 1988 Hamas was founded with a charter that described a genocide of Jews in Israel and the diaspora, and 1st Intifada was rooted in exterminating Jewish lives
- 2000-2005 Hamas started the 2nd Intifada killing Jewish civilians
- in 2008, Hamas stared a war against Israel killing Jewish civilians
- in 2014, Hamas started the first Gaza War killing Jewish civilians
- In 2021, Hamas started another war with Israel killing Jewish civilians
- In 2023, Hamas, started its fifth military operation against Israel killing Jewish civilians
These aren’t receipts; this is simply a list, which doesn’t prove a single thing except that two groups have been killing one another. If I lived in a country under occupation and my family’s land and resources were forcibly taken away from me, I’d fight back too - anyone would. Wouldn’t you?
Yes, it is a list but of well-documented history of Palestinian violence against Jews and Israel. First, it's not a country - and neither Egypt of Jordan addressed the problem when they "occupied" the region. Furthermore, almost half the Arabs left on their own volition prior to the state of Israel declared Independence.
I get it. The Arabs rejected the Balfour Agreement. It's more of a declaration than an agreement, tho. And yeah: back in 1912 or so, a few Arab leaders welcomed their jewish "brothers." Then zionists, a minority, took control over governance. Drove native peoples off their land with lawfare and money. I know the history. You didn't include a list of what provoked such revolts. I said it before and I'll say it again: there is no place for an apartheid state. Zionisism is an abomination and an affront to humanity.
As I understand it, Zionists are a minority. Most Jews don’t support Zionism, because of it being an abomination, an affront to humanity. I’ve kind of lost the thread here, but there’s no doubt in my mind that Netanyahu’s genocide against Palestinians is wrong, impossible to excuse or support under any circumstances. Americans are bankrolling this genocide which makes them complicit.
Obviously you don't know history because you ignore most of it.
I would suggest that thoughtful. honest voters believe it's time to stop supporting Israel in the manner of the past, and spend taxpayers money in the U.S. and not treating her as the #1 state in the world.
You're one of the more honest commenters. Israel (and any potential Palestinian) support should be conditioned on peace and security for all.
Grateful for your work and the content you share. I am a little confused with the article “Debunking 5 Myths A Pro-Israel …” that seems to address just 4 myths that DMFI promotes. Aside, nice write up.
By putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t get the pigs picture on the front page of fashion magazine Elle. So this is the same thing the new gang of lying thugs are trying to do. But millions of people around the world have recognized that a pig will always be a pig and it likes to live in a sty which l don’t think any other animal likes to be anywhere near it. So if Dems making statements like Hakeem and Schumer will be considered as pigs and l for one will have no difficulty telling them to go lie in sty when they come looking for my vote.
Did I miss #5?
Stop believing in these sham elections. It’s the same bs over and over. Democrats are complicit and NO DIFFERENT than their opponents. It’s a damn fraternity that we aren’t in. This is 99% v. 1%