Have they forgotten all the Trump supporters who have killed, attacked, and threatened both prominent Democrats and opponents of this president in recent years? I haven't – and I have a list of them.
This regime doesn't care about facts. They want their Kristallnacht. Please, Mehdi, be ever so careful right now. I know you will never stop speaking your truth, but you and other progressive voices are in so much danger right now. Keep safe.
Charlie Kirk was a very public Christian, perhaps he should have paid more attention to the truth of Jesus in Matthew 26:52 when he stated that, "all they that take the sword will perish by the sword."
I'm sorry, but what it's that even supposed to mean? Those who live by love and compassion also die by the sword every single day. Murder is wrong whether the victim was an innocent child or a revolting bigot like Charlie Kirk.
Duh. Heads they win, tails we lose. Every Dem can and has denounced this: it matters not. Ezra Klein can blow Saint Kirk’s corpse: it matters not.
Hasan will be attacked for simply telling the truth here. Help is not coming from Liberal Pundits, the NYT, the WaPo.
We don’t even know who whacked Kirk or why (remember “mental illness”?), and you saw Trump turn it into fuel for what he is already doing: turning this place into a one-party totalitarian shithole.
Meanwhile, remember Trumpers’ reaction to Pelosi’s husband getting hammered?
Right.
MAGA *are* Nazis. Fascists. Authoritarians. Foreign aid cuts alone will total I think 15m deaths by 2030. Etc.
Anyone who knows anything about the actual Nazis (fascists, etc) gets this and got it a decade ago. It was totally obvious.
In fact, they’re worse in a sense insofar as the Nazis were not consciously bringing about the end of organized human existence. Carbon.
And Charlie Kirk was a real piece of work. How many trans kids have and will kill themselves because of his crap—just to pick one of his despicable beliefs? Look him up: he was horrible.
I’m not gonna reflexively and loudly (publicly) mourn that massively destructive loon hoping MAGA won’t come for me. Repulsive.
PS: Accepting MAGA’s politicization/framing of Kirk’s death means cutting off our own rhetorical balls, as now *any* critique of MAGA north of milquetoast is now “supporting domestic terrorism and political violence.”
And Demz and libs will happily stuff themselves into that rhetorical box, even knowing how it’s a trap. Because they fucking suck.
Kirk in 2022, after Pelosi's husband was attacked:
“Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out, I bet his bail’s like thirty or forty thousand bucks.” With a smirk, he added: “Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.”
(You'll recall him and others were pushing the idea that the attacker was a sex worker hired by Pelosi, which was , of course, just as false as so many other things Kirk has said over the years.)
Kirk speaking about gun deaths, gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
The hypocrisy of USA and especially of its conservatives is astounding. Although I must say that the Democrats are nothing less than wimps. All of them going on about the horrific killing but no mention of the far right and its violence and rhetoric that has led to this “political” assassination! (Aren’t all assassinations political, or am I missing something? Only in the USA do you have such idiotic redundancy!) Not one Democrat has dared to mention the irony of the situation: that a man who advocated violence, and gun freedom and death or worse for immigrants and people of colour, met such a violent death! Why on earth should anyone even take the Dems seriously? They are hell bent on alienating the very people that they are supposed to represent! It’s disgraceful!
Both do this bcz it serves their purpose and it heightens and blindsides their own cruelty and inhumanity across the world. It explains their animalistic incoherent behavior. It is recognized and driven by the corporatists, elites and power mongers.
Please leave out "animalistic". Most animals will kill for food and survival. We act like homo sapiens--killing to advance our own tribe, not acknowleding the humanity of the "other side". Ugh. I want to come back as a monarch butterfly caterpillar--useful as food to another creature, or adding to the beauty of the world, and as a pollinator. What could be better?
This will never be fixed and there is no doubt that the world will never rise to eradicate it. It will only get worse and Gaza will be their new standard of conduct across the world.
“Such rhetoric from the right is as dishonest as it is dangerous.”
And therein lies the rub. I said this last night, my biggest fear was that democrats would self censor (fired Matthew Dowd from MSNBC) and MAGA would weaponize this incident to attack and go after democrats.
And of course, both boxes were checked within hours. Let’s face it, democrats are damned if the do and damned if they don’t. Republican lawmakers were quick to say that calling them fascists was the cause.
Of course, how else do you describe the MAGA movement. It meets the very definition of fascism. Is it our fault that republicans can’t read the dictionary?
Furthermore, is it our fault that republicans pardoned violent insurrectionists, some who laid pipe bombs along the Capitol and at the DNC and RNC. Or that they often engage in hateful rhetoric:
Trump: “immigrants are sucking the blood from our children!”
Vance: Democrats are more of a threat than our enemies…let’s send their kids to Russia to become cannon fodder!”
Stephen Miller: referred to the Democratic Party as a "domestic, extremist organization that must be destroyed.”
Bottom line: Trump pardoned hardened criminals, some convicted of perpetrating heinous crimes in order to build a loyal army of stormtroopers.
Coupled with the lawless ICE agency made up of White Nationalists, he is building an army loyal to him. And given his pardoning power, what remedies do we have to stop him? After all, the DOJ and FBI won’t be arresting his lawless army, they’re part of it! IMHO…:)
I feel like the Dems need to pull a similiar behavior when a democratic politician is killed, otherwise the masses will be persuaded by right wing populism
Oh…but when it was Nancy Pelosi’s husband who was savagely attacked with a hammer and nearly died, the same people were laughing and cracking jokes. They even went as far as to say that it was a hoax, a « mise en scène ». These people are brain washed. They live on conspiracy theories and always blaming others for everything. It has become their life perfusion. America is very sick. All our democracies are in bad shape but the USA is in intensive care.
The chief architect for the unfortunate assassination of Charlie Kirk is himself for all the vile and hateful things he has said and supported over the years.
Isn't it ironic how the far right immediately jumps to the conclusion that the shooting of Kirk was done by someone on the left? They haven't even found the shooter yet! In contrast, there were crickets from the right-wing media when a right-wing shooter executed Melissa and Mark Hortman. The far-right will use Kirk's death to justify more armed militia on US streets, and of course, to deflect attention from the Epstein scandal, the tanking of the economy, and Trump's low approval ratings.
That list of Trump supporters and their violent acts, or attempts at violent acts, threats, and the president's opponents in general, needs to be very widely circulated. The murder of Charlie Kirk for expressing his opinions (which were awful), is a horror, an outrage. He had the right to say what he believed in, as do we all under the Second Amendment. This horrific moment could be used to draw the country together, and so far it is being used to divide. I pray that changes.
To the list we can credibly add the fact that opposition to Trump policies brings fear and the threat of violence to Republican members of congress. Also, Senator Romney has said that his Senate colleagues voted against Trump's impeachment out of concerns for safety.
This regime doesn't care about facts. They want their Kristallnacht. Please, Mehdi, be ever so careful right now. I know you will never stop speaking your truth, but you and other progressive voices are in so much danger right now. Keep safe.
Charlie Kirk was a very public Christian, perhaps he should have paid more attention to the truth of Jesus in Matthew 26:52 when he stated that, "all they that take the sword will perish by the sword."
I'm sorry, but what it's that even supposed to mean? Those who live by love and compassion also die by the sword every single day. Murder is wrong whether the victim was an innocent child or a revolting bigot like Charlie Kirk.
100%.
Duh. Heads they win, tails we lose. Every Dem can and has denounced this: it matters not. Ezra Klein can blow Saint Kirk’s corpse: it matters not.
Hasan will be attacked for simply telling the truth here. Help is not coming from Liberal Pundits, the NYT, the WaPo.
We don’t even know who whacked Kirk or why (remember “mental illness”?), and you saw Trump turn it into fuel for what he is already doing: turning this place into a one-party totalitarian shithole.
Meanwhile, remember Trumpers’ reaction to Pelosi’s husband getting hammered?
Right.
MAGA *are* Nazis. Fascists. Authoritarians. Foreign aid cuts alone will total I think 15m deaths by 2030. Etc.
Anyone who knows anything about the actual Nazis (fascists, etc) gets this and got it a decade ago. It was totally obvious.
In fact, they’re worse in a sense insofar as the Nazis were not consciously bringing about the end of organized human existence. Carbon.
And Charlie Kirk was a real piece of work. How many trans kids have and will kill themselves because of his crap—just to pick one of his despicable beliefs? Look him up: he was horrible.
I’m not gonna reflexively and loudly (publicly) mourn that massively destructive loon hoping MAGA won’t come for me. Repulsive.
PS: Accepting MAGA’s politicization/framing of Kirk’s death means cutting off our own rhetorical balls, as now *any* critique of MAGA north of milquetoast is now “supporting domestic terrorism and political violence.”
And Demz and libs will happily stuff themselves into that rhetorical box, even knowing how it’s a trap. Because they fucking suck.
Two more quotes from Kirk:
Kirk in 2022, after Pelosi's husband was attacked:
“Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out, I bet his bail’s like thirty or forty thousand bucks.” With a smirk, he added: “Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.”
(You'll recall him and others were pushing the idea that the attacker was a sex worker hired by Pelosi, which was , of course, just as false as so many other things Kirk has said over the years.)
Kirk speaking about gun deaths, gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
The hypocrisy of USA and especially of its conservatives is astounding. Although I must say that the Democrats are nothing less than wimps. All of them going on about the horrific killing but no mention of the far right and its violence and rhetoric that has led to this “political” assassination! (Aren’t all assassinations political, or am I missing something? Only in the USA do you have such idiotic redundancy!) Not one Democrat has dared to mention the irony of the situation: that a man who advocated violence, and gun freedom and death or worse for immigrants and people of colour, met such a violent death! Why on earth should anyone even take the Dems seriously? They are hell bent on alienating the very people that they are supposed to represent! It’s disgraceful!
Both do this bcz it serves their purpose and it heightens and blindsides their own cruelty and inhumanity across the world. It explains their animalistic incoherent behavior. It is recognized and driven by the corporatists, elites and power mongers.
Please leave out "animalistic". Most animals will kill for food and survival. We act like homo sapiens--killing to advance our own tribe, not acknowleding the humanity of the "other side". Ugh. I want to come back as a monarch butterfly caterpillar--useful as food to another creature, or adding to the beauty of the world, and as a pollinator. What could be better?
This will never be fixed and there is no doubt that the world will never rise to eradicate it. It will only get worse and Gaza will be their new standard of conduct across the world.
https://substack.com/@aaronrupar/note/c-154620238?r=9kp65
“Such rhetoric from the right is as dishonest as it is dangerous.”
And therein lies the rub. I said this last night, my biggest fear was that democrats would self censor (fired Matthew Dowd from MSNBC) and MAGA would weaponize this incident to attack and go after democrats.
And of course, both boxes were checked within hours. Let’s face it, democrats are damned if the do and damned if they don’t. Republican lawmakers were quick to say that calling them fascists was the cause.
Of course, how else do you describe the MAGA movement. It meets the very definition of fascism. Is it our fault that republicans can’t read the dictionary?
Furthermore, is it our fault that republicans pardoned violent insurrectionists, some who laid pipe bombs along the Capitol and at the DNC and RNC. Or that they often engage in hateful rhetoric:
Trump: “immigrants are sucking the blood from our children!”
Vance: Democrats are more of a threat than our enemies…let’s send their kids to Russia to become cannon fodder!”
Stephen Miller: referred to the Democratic Party as a "domestic, extremist organization that must be destroyed.”
Bottom line: Trump pardoned hardened criminals, some convicted of perpetrating heinous crimes in order to build a loyal army of stormtroopers.
Coupled with the lawless ICE agency made up of White Nationalists, he is building an army loyal to him. And given his pardoning power, what remedies do we have to stop him? After all, the DOJ and FBI won’t be arresting his lawless army, they’re part of it! IMHO…:)
thank you Mehdi
I feel like the Dems need to pull a similiar behavior when a democratic politician is killed, otherwise the masses will be persuaded by right wing populism
Oh…but when it was Nancy Pelosi’s husband who was savagely attacked with a hammer and nearly died, the same people were laughing and cracking jokes. They even went as far as to say that it was a hoax, a « mise en scène ». These people are brain washed. They live on conspiracy theories and always blaming others for everything. It has become their life perfusion. America is very sick. All our democracies are in bad shape but the USA is in intensive care.
The chief architect for the unfortunate assassination of Charlie Kirk is himself for all the vile and hateful things he has said and supported over the years.
Isn't it ironic how the far right immediately jumps to the conclusion that the shooting of Kirk was done by someone on the left? They haven't even found the shooter yet! In contrast, there were crickets from the right-wing media when a right-wing shooter executed Melissa and Mark Hortman. The far-right will use Kirk's death to justify more armed militia on US streets, and of course, to deflect attention from the Epstein scandal, the tanking of the economy, and Trump's low approval ratings.
Absolutely correct
Has Trump heard there was a school shooting yesterday too? Evergreen school.
Predictable as fuck. Can't wait to learn the shooter is actually another right wing white guy.
That list of Trump supporters and their violent acts, or attempts at violent acts, threats, and the president's opponents in general, needs to be very widely circulated. The murder of Charlie Kirk for expressing his opinions (which were awful), is a horror, an outrage. He had the right to say what he believed in, as do we all under the Second Amendment. This horrific moment could be used to draw the country together, and so far it is being used to divide. I pray that changes.
The mindset that lets happen holocaust in Gaza raises the level of insanity and rabidity in the country in their own behavior.
I so wish that no one would use violence or violent language in support of their views. It really is the road to hell for all of us💔🇺🇸
To the list we can credibly add the fact that opposition to Trump policies brings fear and the threat of violence to Republican members of congress. Also, Senator Romney has said that his Senate colleagues voted against Trump's impeachment out of concerns for safety.
Thanks for everything. Take care Mehdi. I have no idea about how to get rid of violent acts. Mystified. Courage to all