It's the first time a US-based organization has asked the court to probe a former president for complicity in alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Trump just sent bunker busters to Israel and is openly proposing ethnic cleansing of Gaza . He will need the same examination, both for Gaza and Ukraine soon.
US support has included at least $17.9 billion of weapons transfers, intelligence sharing, and targeting assistance – and the US abstaining from, voting against, and vetoing several UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire and hostage deal or increased humanitarian aid over the course of 15 months. It’s also included repeatedly sending weapons to Israel without congressional review, including weapons that were used in alleged war crimes like the killing of Hind Rajab.
They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.
The leaders of the United States of Israel are the main reason the Israeli regime was able to commit the horrors and war crimes it committed!! So naturally they should be held to account too!!
The awakening of the Islamic spirit in the West is here. People of all backgrounds unite under the light of justice, calling for peace, dignity, and human rights. We, the people, have the power to demand an end to genocide and uphold international law.
The trouble is that the rule of law and democracy were ignored and dismantled to enable Bush and Blair to commit war crimes with impunity despite clear evidence of illegal invasion, mass civilian fatalities and inhumane torture of prisoners over 20 years ago. Assad, Putin, Biden, Blinken, Sunak, Starmer etc are just continuing the rotten imperialist project. Sow the wind, inherit the whirlwind.
I fear you are decades too late in coming to that conclusion. History will show, the dates when ignoring the rule of law and democracy were ignored began long before that date,
That’s a globally harmful move that benefits Putin and Trump and won’t help the Palestinians. The Biden administration sent the weapons to Israel to support the destruction of the Iranian proxy groups. Biden hates Netanyahu because Netanyahu had already agreed with Jared Kushner to wipe out the Palestinians to free up the land for development (that info has been out there for a while and it’s clear there was a deal based on the Trump administrations recent actions). Biden couldn’t prevent Netanyahu’s actions and now this group has just rendered Putin’s arrest warrant irrelevant by equating Biden’s actions with Putin’s. Trump and Putin will gloat and the Palestinians will get nothing.
I really think that's bonkers. While Biden was in office, I would have thought your view was mistaken, but I could see how you might think that. Now, though, he's out of office, and trying to shore up his position is useless. If anything going after him might push Dems to some badly needed soul searching. And how can giving one group of criminals a pass hurt the effort to go after other criminals? If anything it should strengthen the rule of law.
The creativity of people to deny their absurd cognitive dissonance…
It was Biden that sold billions in weapons to Israel. It was the Biden administration that vetoed all UN resolutions against Israel. The rest is noise.
I am doing my earnest not to judge but it really baffles me how anyone can still say "I am Biden supporter" if that person cares even slightly for the rule of law, humanity and America!
You should judge. Its a disgrace anyone would support a person that first lied about beheaded babies and raped civilians as a pretext for a genocidal response, then sent billions worth of weapons to Israel to accomplish the genocide, and then criticized the ICJ for calling it a genocide, and then sent again billions worth of weapons after the ICC made the arrest warrant. Anyone supporting such person simply doesnt care about palestinian life. They can call themselves intellectual or open minded, but in their heart they’re racist. You should judge.
Maybe what he means is "given a choice between Biden and Trump, I'd pick Biden"? I can't speak for him, but it's plausible. It's not how I would have stated it - I'd never describe myself as a Biden supporter, but someone might say it that way.
Every morning I login to my computer and I face only grim and depressing News. Today is one of those rare days that among all depressing News, there is one that gives me some joy knowing well that this will never go anywhere and even if it does, nothing of substance will come about it.
But it gives me joy that when he is on his way to hell, he will know that he is subject of a probe for his complicity in this genocide.
I cannot support in any way the Biden Administration's support of Israel, though I did vote for Harris on the grounds that trump would be worse by far. HOW by far even I didn't imagine.
Yet I worry about the timing here. The world is already well aware of the part the US played in the disaster that is Gaza--and trump's plans for a Mid East Riviera while Gazans live in nice little trailer homes (if lucky) in the middle of someone's desert aren't going to let the world forget.
But there is a broader problem right now, with the utter alienation of our allies. Like it or not, our economy and our safety depend on keeping those ties from tattering utterly. At the rate we are going, it may not just be Taiwan that gets taken over by China.
I'm with you on the first paragraph. But aside from that, how could trying to uphold the rule of law damage our position with our allies? What's the mechanism? The rest of the world is too stressed about Trump to pay attention to this, and anyone who is paying attention will welcome it (except Israel, of course).
I guess because trump would use this to make things even worse in the middle east. Biden had a lot of good will on other matters--SOME of it must be residually there. I guess I just feel that the US is now being battered enough by itself, internationally. And I can't see what GOOD it will do for anyone. Israel's not going to stop. Trump will give it weapons perhaps because he wants all that waterfront property, perhaps just because he's a total dummkopf. Remember that a lot of Christian Nationalists believe that war in Israel precedes the day of the Rapture, so they WANT this all to continue till trumpets start sounding--or the whole region is in flames.
I would rather see the US, the part that isn't trumpite, simply support the efforts of the rest of our allies to come to some sort of resolution that doesn't kill more innocents or spread to other innocents. Suing Biden is going to cause a lot of mixed emotions that would hinder any unified support from the American people itself. We don't need more fragmentation of the anti-trump forces right now.
This argument is often used to not hold powerful western leaders accountable for brazen crimes. History would be a lot less bloody if people responsible for the wanton killing and destruction of the innocent were actually held liable. Full stop. This needs to happen. Will Israel be stopped on this case alone? No. But seeing a former president of the US on trial for blindly supporting and collaborating on war crimes and crimes against humanity will have a PROFOUND impact on how other western nations handle their Israel foreign policy.
Also: holding domestic US political concerns above holding genocidal monsters legally liable for killing and maiming hundreds of thousands is really an awful calculation. Just had to be said. And further, it would probably make the Democratic Party more electable if they actually hold their party leaders to some kind of moral standard, don’t you think? Especially when you consider Biden’s Gaza genocide policies were a large driver of the democrats’ loss to the most unqualified, idiotic and absurd human being in US history.
As if they did something for them when Democrats were in charge.
Obviously Trump is also a war criminal now that he has shipped more bombs to Israel He just hasn't been at the job long enough to kill more than the Democrats have under Biden, yet.
I didn’t question the action. I questioned the timing. I would really rather not fragment the Dems more when trump is on our own very personal horizon.
Not holding people accountable for such blatantly obvious lying about, aiding and abetting the mass murder of tens of thousands of poor people who've already been trapped, abused, and murdered for decades is NEVER the right answer. Full stop.
You seem to be quite convinced of your moral compass but everything you say is utter and selfish neocon B/S.
How can Trump be worse “by far” for Gaza than someone who enabled and facilitated genocide? Or do you mean Trump is worse for you?
Do you still believe that Trump wants to make Gaza the Rivièra of the Middle East? How do people not see that the obvious purpose is to give Arab countries a fake solution that they will reject, in order to create for israel a pretext to continue the genocide. “You didnt want them, so there’s nothing else we can do.”
The fact that you call the US relationships a “broader” problem than a livestreamed TikTok genocide says about everything about your moral compass.
Ah, I am to bow before YOUR moral compass huh? YOU sir or madam, are an abject idiot, as you know nothing at all about me. Neocon is about as far from me as you can get. I was speaking of Harris, not Biden, that trump would be worse than. Not having your clear Nostradamian insights, it seemed at least possible that she WOULD soften more than Biden and MUCH more than trump who would only do what was best for trump, which would involve who could give HIM the most money and adulation.
Your third paragraph actually sums up how trump COULD be worse by far than Harris for Gaza. Though I am concerned not just with Gaza, but also the West Bank, the fragile cease fire in Lebanon, and the encroachment on Syria.
The chaos that is the end of USAID speaks to the broader context in which the relationship of the US to the world IS something one perhaps should think about. If we are ever to get back to the idea that the US can indeed be a force for good in at least small ways, (or large ones, considering Ukraine) we have to concentrate for the moment on being sure that it doesn't just implode.
Go ahead and think that hope that American can reach its ideals at home and abroad is "selfish." To that I just say--BS.
It's about time.
Trump just sent bunker busters to Israel and is openly proposing ethnic cleansing of Gaza . He will need the same examination, both for Gaza and Ukraine soon.
Brilliant - but didn't Biden escape prosecution from a court case on account his brain is now mush?
Fair point, but I think it should count for something that this particular aspect of his malicious intentions, has spanned more than half a century.
His handlers — at the very least — can't argue that he was momentarily befuddled, for well over a year.
US support has included at least $17.9 billion of weapons transfers, intelligence sharing, and targeting assistance – and the US abstaining from, voting against, and vetoing several UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire and hostage deal or increased humanitarian aid over the course of 15 months. It’s also included repeatedly sending weapons to Israel without congressional review, including weapons that were used in alleged war crimes like the killing of Hind Rajab.
The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza
They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.
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Nail the Barstewards!
The leaders of the United States of Israel are the main reason the Israeli regime was able to commit the horrors and war crimes it committed!! So naturally they should be held to account too!!
If the shoe fits, ……
If the jackboot fits....
The awakening of the Islamic spirit in the West is here. People of all backgrounds unite under the light of justice, calling for peace, dignity, and human rights. We, the people, have the power to demand an end to genocide and uphold international law.
The trouble is that the rule of law and democracy were ignored and dismantled to enable Bush and Blair to commit war crimes with impunity despite clear evidence of illegal invasion, mass civilian fatalities and inhumane torture of prisoners over 20 years ago. Assad, Putin, Biden, Blinken, Sunak, Starmer etc are just continuing the rotten imperialist project. Sow the wind, inherit the whirlwind.
I fear you are decades too late in coming to that conclusion. History will show, the dates when ignoring the rule of law and democracy were ignored began long before that date,
That’s a globally harmful move that benefits Putin and Trump and won’t help the Palestinians. The Biden administration sent the weapons to Israel to support the destruction of the Iranian proxy groups. Biden hates Netanyahu because Netanyahu had already agreed with Jared Kushner to wipe out the Palestinians to free up the land for development (that info has been out there for a while and it’s clear there was a deal based on the Trump administrations recent actions). Biden couldn’t prevent Netanyahu’s actions and now this group has just rendered Putin’s arrest warrant irrelevant by equating Biden’s actions with Putin’s. Trump and Putin will gloat and the Palestinians will get nothing.
I really think that's bonkers. While Biden was in office, I would have thought your view was mistaken, but I could see how you might think that. Now, though, he's out of office, and trying to shore up his position is useless. If anything going after him might push Dems to some badly needed soul searching. And how can giving one group of criminals a pass hurt the effort to go after other criminals? If anything it should strengthen the rule of law.
Biden’s actions are equivalent or worse than Putins. The Palestinians have gotten nothing before.. why should more nothing make a difference?
I would suggest that these efforts are meant to change that. I can't tell if your comment is meant to suggest otherwise.
The creativity of people to deny their absurd cognitive dissonance…
It was Biden that sold billions in weapons to Israel. It was the Biden administration that vetoed all UN resolutions against Israel. The rest is noise.
I am a Biden supporter, but the actions in Gaza are so bad that they do need this examination, although he operates via specialists.
Especially Blinkin, who was the hands on person running this, needs to be examined very closely examined and likely charged.
I am doing my earnest not to judge but it really baffles me how anyone can still say "I am Biden supporter" if that person cares even slightly for the rule of law, humanity and America!
You should judge. Its a disgrace anyone would support a person that first lied about beheaded babies and raped civilians as a pretext for a genocidal response, then sent billions worth of weapons to Israel to accomplish the genocide, and then criticized the ICJ for calling it a genocide, and then sent again billions worth of weapons after the ICC made the arrest warrant. Anyone supporting such person simply doesnt care about palestinian life. They can call themselves intellectual or open minded, but in their heart they’re racist. You should judge.
Maybe what he means is "given a choice between Biden and Trump, I'd pick Biden"? I can't speak for him, but it's plausible. It's not how I would have stated it - I'd never describe myself as a Biden supporter, but someone might say it that way.
I judge and hold Biden responsible for delivering the WH to tRUMP.
Every morning I login to my computer and I face only grim and depressing News. Today is one of those rare days that among all depressing News, there is one that gives me some joy knowing well that this will never go anywhere and even if it does, nothing of substance will come about it.
But it gives me joy that when he is on his way to hell, he will know that he is subject of a probe for his complicity in this genocide.
Well put 👏👏
Yeah, it’s about time. Why the hell did it take this long for anyone to file this motion⁉️
It is a shame we are incapable of shame. As I said elsewhere, in a different context, last week, “We have met the enemy and he is us”.
Spot on. The only thing wrong about the timing of this is that it came so late, but it's better late than never.
Wonderful!
I cannot support in any way the Biden Administration's support of Israel, though I did vote for Harris on the grounds that trump would be worse by far. HOW by far even I didn't imagine.
Yet I worry about the timing here. The world is already well aware of the part the US played in the disaster that is Gaza--and trump's plans for a Mid East Riviera while Gazans live in nice little trailer homes (if lucky) in the middle of someone's desert aren't going to let the world forget.
But there is a broader problem right now, with the utter alienation of our allies. Like it or not, our economy and our safety depend on keeping those ties from tattering utterly. At the rate we are going, it may not just be Taiwan that gets taken over by China.
I'm with you on the first paragraph. But aside from that, how could trying to uphold the rule of law damage our position with our allies? What's the mechanism? The rest of the world is too stressed about Trump to pay attention to this, and anyone who is paying attention will welcome it (except Israel, of course).
I guess because trump would use this to make things even worse in the middle east. Biden had a lot of good will on other matters--SOME of it must be residually there. I guess I just feel that the US is now being battered enough by itself, internationally. And I can't see what GOOD it will do for anyone. Israel's not going to stop. Trump will give it weapons perhaps because he wants all that waterfront property, perhaps just because he's a total dummkopf. Remember that a lot of Christian Nationalists believe that war in Israel precedes the day of the Rapture, so they WANT this all to continue till trumpets start sounding--or the whole region is in flames.
I would rather see the US, the part that isn't trumpite, simply support the efforts of the rest of our allies to come to some sort of resolution that doesn't kill more innocents or spread to other innocents. Suing Biden is going to cause a lot of mixed emotions that would hinder any unified support from the American people itself. We don't need more fragmentation of the anti-trump forces right now.
This argument is often used to not hold powerful western leaders accountable for brazen crimes. History would be a lot less bloody if people responsible for the wanton killing and destruction of the innocent were actually held liable. Full stop. This needs to happen. Will Israel be stopped on this case alone? No. But seeing a former president of the US on trial for blindly supporting and collaborating on war crimes and crimes against humanity will have a PROFOUND impact on how other western nations handle their Israel foreign policy.
Also: holding domestic US political concerns above holding genocidal monsters legally liable for killing and maiming hundreds of thousands is really an awful calculation. Just had to be said. And further, it would probably make the Democratic Party more electable if they actually hold their party leaders to some kind of moral standard, don’t you think? Especially when you consider Biden’s Gaza genocide policies were a large driver of the democrats’ loss to the most unqualified, idiotic and absurd human being in US history.
we must agree to disagree. As I said, the timing matters. The US can do NOTHING for Palestinians as long as trump is in charge.
As if they did something for them when Democrats were in charge.
Obviously Trump is also a war criminal now that he has shipped more bombs to Israel He just hasn't been at the job long enough to kill more than the Democrats have under Biden, yet.
I didn’t question the action. I questioned the timing. I would really rather not fragment the Dems more when trump is on our own very personal horizon.
Not holding people accountable for such blatantly obvious lying about, aiding and abetting the mass murder of tens of thousands of poor people who've already been trapped, abused, and murdered for decades is NEVER the right answer. Full stop.
Do you understand the word "timing?"
You seem to be quite convinced of your moral compass but everything you say is utter and selfish neocon B/S.
How can Trump be worse “by far” for Gaza than someone who enabled and facilitated genocide? Or do you mean Trump is worse for you?
Do you still believe that Trump wants to make Gaza the Rivièra of the Middle East? How do people not see that the obvious purpose is to give Arab countries a fake solution that they will reject, in order to create for israel a pretext to continue the genocide. “You didnt want them, so there’s nothing else we can do.”
The fact that you call the US relationships a “broader” problem than a livestreamed TikTok genocide says about everything about your moral compass.
Ah, I am to bow before YOUR moral compass huh? YOU sir or madam, are an abject idiot, as you know nothing at all about me. Neocon is about as far from me as you can get. I was speaking of Harris, not Biden, that trump would be worse than. Not having your clear Nostradamian insights, it seemed at least possible that she WOULD soften more than Biden and MUCH more than trump who would only do what was best for trump, which would involve who could give HIM the most money and adulation.
Your third paragraph actually sums up how trump COULD be worse by far than Harris for Gaza. Though I am concerned not just with Gaza, but also the West Bank, the fragile cease fire in Lebanon, and the encroachment on Syria.
The chaos that is the end of USAID speaks to the broader context in which the relationship of the US to the world IS something one perhaps should think about. If we are ever to get back to the idea that the US can indeed be a force for good in at least small ways, (or large ones, considering Ukraine) we have to concentrate for the moment on being sure that it doesn't just implode.
Go ahead and think that hope that American can reach its ideals at home and abroad is "selfish." To that I just say--BS.
China has no interest in taking over the US.
not now. But hey, it would be REALLY big eventually, and safe when anyone who cares about democracy has starved to death.