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🐂 Abdul El-Sayed Went on Fox and Cut Through Jesse Watters's Bullshit

The Michigan Senate candidate went into the lion’s den. When he got a word in, he held his own. Elsewhere, Trump got on with losing his trade war with Canada and rattled a rusty saber at Iran.

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Martin Pengelly
Aug 25, 2026
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Good morning, and happy Tuesday to all. Martin here, having undertaken the altogether unenviable task of watching Abdul El-Sayed go on Fox to be shouted at by Jesse Watters, the better to distill the result for your reading pleasure.

The short version, to put it in the language of an English soccer manager, is the boy done good, all in all. There was a deal of nonsensical stuff about progressive positions El-Sayed has taken in past years and which Republicans think mean society is about to crash down around their ears, but then there was always going to be and if El-Sayed sometimes dodged the question, that often had to be inferred because his host wouldn’t shut up. When El-Sayed did drag the interview his way, and offered more substantive points, he seized a share of the spoils.

Elsewhere, it was another wholly ludicrous day in Donald Trump’s trade war with Canada, while Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced new sanctions for Iran but shrank from actually confronting countries like China and Russia that continue to trade with Tehran. There was a lot more to think about too. Let’s read on.

‘You Got to Give Credit to Abdul’

Abdul El-Sayed in Detroit on Aug. 5, 2026. Photo by Finn Gomez/Getty Images.

Abdul El-Sayed sat for an interview with Fox carnival barker Jesse Watters in primetime and did quite well. So much of the 26-minute exchange was taken up with Watters talking over his guest that the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan might’ve wondered why he bothered. But the hits El-Sayed landed, when he managed to shut Watters up, outweighed some awkward moments.

El-Sayed made Watters laugh, repeatedly, by calling Republican opponent Mike Rogers a “beta,” for avoiding campaign confrontation and not appearing on Watters’s show. Whether any Democrat should be joshing with the sort of host who opened with a seven-minute rant about communists and pointedly, repeatedly called his guest “Abdul in Michigan” might be debated. So might the chances of El-Sayed’s tax policy ever being given a fair hearing on Fox. But consider four minutes that closed out the interview.

Watters said: “Black people in Michigan voted for this white lady you ran against” – Rep. Haley Stevens – “by like eight points over you. What happened there?”

El-Sayed said: “Well, Jesse, I mean you said it yourself, right? You got to give credit to Abdul. He ran against the machine. I got outspent 11-1.”

He didn’t mention AIPAC, the pro-Israel group that backed Stevens heavily. Curiously, Watters didn’t bring up Israel either. El-Sayed mentioned Hasan Piker, the livestreamer Republicans want to tie to him to, presently at the heart of yet another confected “scandal” about so-called antisemitism. That might yet count as an unforced error, but Watters didn’t pounce. An exchange on “sharia law” might’ve had Fox-watching bigots salivating, but it went best for El-Sayed, who pointed out that it’s just the same as “canon law,” a concept familiar to Christians like Watters and his viewers, only for Muslims, free to practice their faith like all others.

Ultimately, El-Sayed succeeded in bringing Watters back to his core campaign message: Forget the culture war hoo-hah, let’s talk about healthcare, inequality, and the cost of living.

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