I am so glad you highlighted this. I am a Sunni, my husband is Shia and it breaks my heart when I see things like this happening around the Muslim world. People need to wake up and stop this nonsense.
It’s one sided, it’s always the Shias being killed, the Sunnis say they don’t support the killings, but they don’t do anything about it. We just tell people about Karbala, this gets some Sunnis angry, why?
If you’re creating a divide in your household by calling yourself Sunni and Husband Shia, then what do you expect from others? As a Muslim, you shouldn’t entertain the idea of sectarianism.
Writing grandly doesn’t take away the facts, and well one should decide, can’t travel in two boats either. One should not discriminate but at the same time not compromise.
I agree, having read your response, writing grandly doesn’t. As Mehdi would say, facts don’t care about your feelings and fact is sectarianism is political, not theological so drop it and focus on the bigger picture. Otherwise, you’re no different to those that discriminate cause it sounds like you’re one of them but just on the other side of the “fence”.
Wow, difficult nowadays with names to identify about your side of the fence, but offhand, you might have advised Imam Hussain to let things go, maybe the Prophet too, telling them the "facts", not to indulge in "politics". Methinks, I stepped on your tail too, oops.
Don’t be divisive and extreme and pretend you know who I am or what I stand for.
I’m trying to open your mind and show you there is no fence and shouldn’t be one either but you’re adamant on building one and judging anyone who shows a different path.
Avoid becoming part of the problem by going back to fundamentals of Islam (Quran) and strive to become part of the solution.
FYI - Prophet PBUH called people who fought over sects, family lineage etc. and created division among themselves backward/ignorant (Jahal).
Great article. I think there is a typo in one of the sentences:
"PTI and Khan himself launched similar never-ending marches calling for his return to power smack in the middle of the catastrophic floods of 2002)." I think the year is 2022, not 2002.
I honestly doubt that in a country where people are struggling to make ends meet, people would just pick up guns to kill because of their religious beliefs. People have bigger problems to deal with. The only thing that would motivate them to carry out these killings is not religious animosity but rather money. Someone is funding them to carry out these acts.
Glad to see Zeteo reporting on this although I'm not thrilled with Fatima Bhutto's analysis behind the root causes.
Anti-Shia mass murder in Pakistan pre-dates the 1979 revolution in Iran, most notably with the Thehri Massacre of 1963 where 116 mostly Shi'a teenagers were brutally killed with meat cleavers when they were trapped on a bridge marching on the Day of Ashura. It is indeed violence motivated in part by anti-Shia animus built by the Wahhabi doctrine over the past 200 years.
This Shia - Sunni conflict is cancerous and like cancer it subsides and erupts.
Unfortunately in Pakistan its the powers to be ( you nailed them) that exploit this divide to their advantage.The recent Parachinar tragedy according to insiders is work of agencies.
I am from India,we number about 220 million and fortunately we do not face this malice.Its confined to vitriol from either side,only minuscule during Moharram.
And in the Arab world this divide was not obvious as it is now. The clashes in Iraq and Syria post Gulf War have been fanned by Western Media. Tom Fredman is good journalist,but a sly when it comes to the Arab world.His columns in US and other international media showed a lot of bias projecting differences between Shia and Sunni. Yemen thankfully is free of this malice.
I signed up as a paid subscriber to support Mehdi and as a bonus to get early access to the recent Hassan Minhaj episode. Right around this time I see your name appear in my email feed under Zeteo, and it made me upset. Even Mehdi - after joking about the Empire - even he is allied with the Bhutto family?
Before judging him, I decided to read what you wrote. I found myself nodding and looking up the definition of words. Who is this lady? One wikipedia post later I felt so embarrassed for judging you just based on your name. I look forward to following your work and perhaps after the next book in reading list, I may pick up Songs of Blood and Sword.
Thank you for writing about what Shias face in Pakistan. I get so upset about the standards we hold others to when we are using the same play book in our backyard. The older I get, the more I'm resigning on the belief whether we have agency to change the status quo. But even when we don't see change manifesting itself, the most important thing we can do, to leave a record of our rejection of these ideas and write about what the facts and justice. This is why I hold writers like yourself in the highest regard.
How can people see no sanctity in human life? It’s pure evil, what is wrong with the world, just let people live their lives, and mind your own business. Is that so difficult?
I am so glad you highlighted this. I am a Sunni, my husband is Shia and it breaks my heart when I see things like this happening around the Muslim world. People need to wake up and stop this nonsense.
This woman belongs to the same category
It’s one sided, it’s always the Shias being killed, the Sunnis say they don’t support the killings, but they don’t do anything about it. We just tell people about Karbala, this gets some Sunnis angry, why?
What happened in Karbala?
Did you look at the link?
Look up, whoishussain.org
If you’re creating a divide in your household by calling yourself Sunni and Husband Shia, then what do you expect from others? As a Muslim, you shouldn’t entertain the idea of sectarianism.
Writing grandly doesn’t take away the facts, and well one should decide, can’t travel in two boats either. One should not discriminate but at the same time not compromise.
I agree, having read your response, writing grandly doesn’t. As Mehdi would say, facts don’t care about your feelings and fact is sectarianism is political, not theological so drop it and focus on the bigger picture. Otherwise, you’re no different to those that discriminate cause it sounds like you’re one of them but just on the other side of the “fence”.
Wow, difficult nowadays with names to identify about your side of the fence, but offhand, you might have advised Imam Hussain to let things go, maybe the Prophet too, telling them the "facts", not to indulge in "politics". Methinks, I stepped on your tail too, oops.
Don’t be divisive and extreme and pretend you know who I am or what I stand for.
I’m trying to open your mind and show you there is no fence and shouldn’t be one either but you’re adamant on building one and judging anyone who shows a different path.
Avoid becoming part of the problem by going back to fundamentals of Islam (Quran) and strive to become part of the solution.
FYI - Prophet PBUH called people who fought over sects, family lineage etc. and created division among themselves backward/ignorant (Jahal).
Sheer human stupidity!! At times like now, we all, especially Muslims, need to show solidarity and compassion for each other.
Great article. I think there is a typo in one of the sentences:
"PTI and Khan himself launched similar never-ending marches calling for his return to power smack in the middle of the catastrophic floods of 2002)." I think the year is 2022, not 2002.
The "deranged ouroboros (had to look up the term) is so vivid and apt. A state and a country devouring itself :-(
I honestly doubt that in a country where people are struggling to make ends meet, people would just pick up guns to kill because of their religious beliefs. People have bigger problems to deal with. The only thing that would motivate them to carry out these killings is not religious animosity but rather money. Someone is funding them to carry out these acts.
Glad to see Zeteo reporting on this although I'm not thrilled with Fatima Bhutto's analysis behind the root causes.
Anti-Shia mass murder in Pakistan pre-dates the 1979 revolution in Iran, most notably with the Thehri Massacre of 1963 where 116 mostly Shi'a teenagers were brutally killed with meat cleavers when they were trapped on a bridge marching on the Day of Ashura. It is indeed violence motivated in part by anti-Shia animus built by the Wahhabi doctrine over the past 200 years.
This Shia - Sunni conflict is cancerous and like cancer it subsides and erupts.
Unfortunately in Pakistan its the powers to be ( you nailed them) that exploit this divide to their advantage.The recent Parachinar tragedy according to insiders is work of agencies.
I am from India,we number about 220 million and fortunately we do not face this malice.Its confined to vitriol from either side,only minuscule during Moharram.
And in the Arab world this divide was not obvious as it is now. The clashes in Iraq and Syria post Gulf War have been fanned by Western Media. Tom Fredman is good journalist,but a sly when it comes to the Arab world.His columns in US and other international media showed a lot of bias projecting differences between Shia and Sunni. Yemen thankfully is free of this malice.
Yes, no problems with Hindus either, it's ok to let the poor suffer. I just love magnamousity.
I signed up as a paid subscriber to support Mehdi and as a bonus to get early access to the recent Hassan Minhaj episode. Right around this time I see your name appear in my email feed under Zeteo, and it made me upset. Even Mehdi - after joking about the Empire - even he is allied with the Bhutto family?
Before judging him, I decided to read what you wrote. I found myself nodding and looking up the definition of words. Who is this lady? One wikipedia post later I felt so embarrassed for judging you just based on your name. I look forward to following your work and perhaps after the next book in reading list, I may pick up Songs of Blood and Sword.
Thank you for writing about what Shias face in Pakistan. I get so upset about the standards we hold others to when we are using the same play book in our backyard. The older I get, the more I'm resigning on the belief whether we have agency to change the status quo. But even when we don't see change manifesting itself, the most important thing we can do, to leave a record of our rejection of these ideas and write about what the facts and justice. This is why I hold writers like yourself in the highest regard.
I resonate with your thoughts on changing the status quo, inshallah khair.
"Zia was an enthusiastic conduit for the US war against the Soviets in Afghanistan,"
When was that war??
how facetious can you get, Dallas?
Can't be called a US war if it is proxy/Cold/drone/etc? People dont die nontheless? Or maybe it doesn't count if the deaths aren't white, perhaps...
The Soviet Union collapsed 33 years ago. When was that war?
How can people see no sanctity in human life? It’s pure evil, what is wrong with the world, just let people live their lives, and mind your own business. Is that so difficult?
She belongs to a family which is in many ways part of these things, blood suckers, may they their ancestors and off springs reside in hell forever
Zia, one more feather in the hat of the real Jimmy Carter: coddler of thugs, tyrants, terrorists.
Instead to unite...